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I don't even want to turn my NMP on until I get a 4k monitor. I was thinking about a 1440P monitor but the money I spend on that could go toward the Dell sub $1k UHD monitor, or one of the cinema wide UHD monitors.
 
4k is pretty much consumer hype at this point.
If you are working in professional film video production you would be looking at pro level monitors by Ikegami, Sony or Panasonic with pro level features.
If you simply need a lot of screen real estate there are much better deals out there.

Most people won't benefit from 4k but I don't think it is consumer hype. I do graphic and product design and I love the retina MacBook because I can get close to print quality resolution without printing. I do sit close to my monitor and I will lean in closer to look at little details.

If I had a 27" 4k screen I would love it! I could view larger scale posters or content at actual or close to actual size and not loose crispness. I need color accuracy as well. Just jamming a bunch of pixels together would not be good enough. I know other monitors have true colors than Apple but they have been good enough for my needs.

I say wait. Bring on an apple 4k Thunderbolt Display.
 
Hmmm

The answer(s) to your question:

1) It depends on when (if) Apple will release a display (at least 30")
2) It depends if/when 4K becomes a project requirement.
3) Wait to see what new options appear at the next trade show
4) I'm curious if the Sharp monitor is covered under the Apple Care Plan

Fortunately, the Apple 30 display I purchased in 2008 stills runs perfectly. However, I can't say the same about my oMP. It's getting cranky because it knows its days are numbered.
 
that's what I planned on doing... why wait and have it sit in the box. Plus maybe prices will drop



then why go 4k? :confused:

For the resolution + increase in workspace. Not everyone's workflow requires 100% accurate colour reproduction.

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(**) not particularly seperating the technically seperate LCD panel from the controller that sends the signals. The part of the display that open/closes to let light through is only as good as the electronics backing it up. At this point 4K 60Hz has largely outstripped what those controller electronics can handle. That will probably see updates in 2014-2015.

I am not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that 4K at 60 Hz is not possible right now? Sorry, but your posts are somewhat confusing sometimes and their point is not always very clear to me.

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You can use the Sharp PN-K321 and the ASUS PQ321Q with the Mac Pro (Late 2013). These displays require using a Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort cable or a High-Speed HDMI cable to connect to your Mac Pro. European versions of these displays do not include an HDMI port.

Note that these displays default to 30 Hz (instead of 60 Hz) and need to be manually configured to 60 Hz using the display's built-in controls.

For the Sharp PN-K321, you can modify this under Settings > DisplayPort STREAM.
For the ASUS PQ321Q, you can modify this under OSD menu > Setup > DisplayPort Stream.
 
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I am not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that 4K at 60 Hz is not possible right now?

No.

Sorry, but your posts are somewhat confusing sometimes and their point is not always very clear to me.

"Largely outstripped" probably wasn't the best phrasing. The controllers can't handle 4K at 60Hz. What they can handle is two "2K" at 60Hz. You have to pump two video streams and then merge them at the LCD panel.
Unless you have a "host to display" soution that can pump two video streams to the same display you can't do 4K @ 60Hz right now. That's what a mean by "largely outstripped" in that the content has to be broken down into smaller chunks so it can be digested.


So for instance.

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Is not going to do 4K at 60Hz. HDMI v1.4 cannot pump multiple streams. The DisplayPort v1.2 is the only thing on Mac Pro that is going to deliver 60Hz because going to use its Multi Stream Transport (MST) feature to pump the two streams.
 
No.



"Largely outstripped" probably wasn't the best phrasing. The controllers can't handle 4K at 60Hz. What they can handle is two "2K" at 60Hz. You have to pump two video streams and then merge them at the controller.
Unless you have a "host to display" soution that can pump two video streams to the same display you can't do 4K @ 60Hz right now. That's what a mean by "largely outstripped" in that the content has to be broken down into smaller chunks so it can be digested.


So for instance.



Is not going to do 4K at 60Hz. HDMI v1.4 cannot pump multiple streams. The DisplayPort v1.2 is the only thing on Mac Pro that is going to deliver 60Hz because going to use its Multi Stream Transport (MST) feature to pump the two streams.
Oh, yes. I am following now.
 
wait

If you want an apple 4K, I think anyone is going to be waiting a while, probably till next fall i would say,

but, if one needs one soon, I'd certainly wait a month to find out what is going to be announced at CES, prices should probably go down a lot, and current vendors should be coming out with new V2.0 models very soon.
 
If you want an apple 4K, I think anyone is going to be waiting a while, probably till next fall i would say,

but, if one needs one soon, I'd certainly wait a month to find out what is going to be announced at CES, prices should probably go down a lot, and current vendors should be coming out with new V2.0 models very soon.

Thats my plan. Luckily CES is about a week away.
 
This is where all the reviews of the mac pro have been rubbish. Not actually answering the important things or testing things properly.

even www.fcp.co's review was woeful. And they had the first one!
 
You seem to know a good deal about this so I was hoping you could answer a question for me. I bought a 7970 from MacVidCards recently and the spec sheet says it can push:

4096 x 2160 (HDMI)
4096 x 2160 (DisplayPort)

Does that mean I'll have to wait for a monitor that can handle that resolution via HDMI without merging two streams together to use one?

No.



"Largely outstripped" probably wasn't the best phrasing. The controllers can't handle 4K at 60Hz. What they can handle is two "2K" at 60Hz. You have to pump two video streams and then merge them at the LCD panel.
Unless you have a "host to display" soution that can pump two video streams to the same display you can't do 4K @ 60Hz right now. That's what a mean by "largely outstripped" in that the content has to be broken down into smaller chunks so it can be digested.


So for instance.



Is not going to do 4K at 60Hz. HDMI v1.4 cannot pump multiple streams. The DisplayPort v1.2 is the only thing on Mac Pro that is going to deliver 60Hz because going to use its Multi Stream Transport (MST) feature to pump the two streams.
 
You seem to know a good deal about this so I was hoping you could answer a question for me. I bought a 7970 from MacVidCards recently and the spec sheet says it can push:

4096 x 2160 (HDMI)
4096 x 2160 (DisplayPort)

Does that mean I'll have to wait for a monitor that can handle that resolution via HDMI without merging two streams together to use one?

There is more than just resolution dimensions at issue. The refresh is of issue also. The spec above is lacking the aspect of resolution of what you can/cannot see due to motion. HDMI 1.4 ( 1.2 ) can do those dimensions at substantially less than 60Hz. As mentioned in another post above, the default for many of these 4K monitors is 30Hz for which HDMI will work. Just don't move anything around on the screen rapidly. ;-)

Generally, most folks are used to 60Hz refresh rates on their computer monitors. If willing to trade off more pixels for slower refresh then have more options to get to 4K. The controllers that can do '2K' at 60Hz can adjust relatively easy to 4k at 30Hz. It is the same number of pixels to juggle in a fixed amount of time.

Even when HDMI 2.0 arrives it will be two streams. It is just going to get out of the 30Hz constraints.
 
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