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Call of Duty 4 for 13 yr old?
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Thats exactly right Kahine, it would be great if none of that existed.
And FYI me and my family have none of the above you listed.
Like I said the world would be better off without stuff like that.
In fact I know a guy who killed people from the influence of a horrible book he read. If you need proof I'll be happy to post it.
Thats exactly right Kahine, it would be great if none of that existed.
And FYI me and my family have none of the above you listed.
Like I said the world would be better off without stuff like that.
In fact I know a guy who killed people from the influence of a horrible book he read. If you need proof I'll be happy to post it.
I think your sarcasm switch isn't working right...
People do swear because of the influence of the game.
In my mind NO ONE should play these kind of games, if they didn't the world wouldn't be as bad as it is!
Whooaaaa hold up there nelly!
As I said before, I played Duke 3D, Doom, Quake, Mortal Kombat 1-3, Street Fighter etc. All way before I was 11 years old. But I had good parents who taught me the difference between games and real life. I grew up pacifist, I don't swear much, I don't drink and have never done drugs and I've been going out with a nice catholic girl for the last 6 years.
Yet there I was. Pressing space bar on the pole dancers in Duke Nukem
Of course you get nutters who read books and go killing people, it's the same as when people watch a film and feel sad, uplifted or empowered. It just takes good, real role models to follow.
Thats exactly right Kahine, it would be great if none of that existed.
And FYI me and my family have none of the above you listed.
Like I said the world would be better off without stuff like that.
In fact I know a guy who killed people from the influence of a horrible book he read. If you need proof I'll be happy to post it.
Then the guy had his own issues - was his problem not the book's
Explain to me how in the hell you think we shouldn't have video games or books that are "bad" but you use the internet ? Shouldnt we ban the internet also ?
Yes, all the bad internet sites should be removed... Macrumors is not one of them.
(And we will be getting rid of the internet soon).
Yes, all the bad internet sites should be removed... Macrumors is not one of them.
Regardless of your personal beliefs regarding what the rest of us should or shouldn't be allowed to see or do, the thread is starting to move into PRSI territory (now there's an MR Forum I think you might have issues with) if it isn't already there. Broad-brush statements of a social nature are not destined to gather rational commentary. No good can come from continuing in this vein.
I'm sorry, WHAT!?Yes, all the bad internet sites should be removed... Macrumors is not one of them.
No way in hell are we going to get rid of the internet soon. The use of the internet is just beginning (digital distribution of media (itunes)). I do agree that some games should be censored because of their content, and guess what, they are!
a lot of games are or they have ratings such as MA on them and such. same with music. wal-mart even offers censored versions of albums
however, when people start telling me what i can and can not watch or let my children watch, that is what i take issues with as they have no right.
as far as you getting rid of the internet, good for you
sorry, i thought you meant something else. Why would you get rid of the internet though, if it is the content on it that you are worried about why not add extensive blockers to stop yourself being exposed to it. That way you get the best of both worlds.
Back OT...
Halo is a good game that will run well on your mini. (It runs well on my 1.3 GHz iBook G4 with 512 MB of RAM) It's probably one of the modern classics, I'm sure your son will enjoy it.
Halo is a good game that will run well on your mini. (It runs well on my 1.3 GHz iBook G4 with 512 MB of RAM) It's probably one of the modern classics, I'm sure your son will enjoy it.
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Where can you buy a cop of halo for the mac from? They don't seem to sell it on the apple website any more and i don't live anywhere near an apple store. And how well will it work on a 2.4 macbook (black)
I'm a huge fan of COD4. I think it's one of the better games to come out in many years. That said, I don't know that it's appropriate for a 13 year old. COD4 is a war game. It follows a couple of different allies (British and US if I remember correctly, been a while) in a terrorist hunting type situation. Through the course of the story, many (good and bad) things happen. Some of the situations that you're placed in are incredibly intense - not from an action perspective, but from a storytelling perspective. That's what sets COD4 off from many (most?) other FPS's - the story is very engaging and INTENSE.
Mindless over-the-top violence is one thing - very realistic violence against characters that you've encountered for several hours during the story is another.
It's been a long time since I've been or even been around 13 year olds, but if I remember that age accurately, 13 year olds would be on the border of the age group that could handle COD4. I'd say play through it yourself. You're the only one that knows your kid well enough, and all kids are different. Plus, you'd be playing one of the best games to come out in recent times.
Also, if your kid wants to play online, you'll run into the usual online immature trash talk. Not saying it's bad, but just go in eyes open - anyone playing COD4 online will be hit with language that could be considered to be far more profane than anything you'd hear in any movie anywhere (think locker room talk++++ with some racism and sexism mixed in). Nothing anyone that plays online hasn't heard many times before, but a newbie might be a little shocked
Mindless over-the-top violence is one thing - very realistic violence against characters that you've encountered for several hours during the story is another.
It's been a long time since I've been or even been around 13 year olds, but if I remember that age accurately, 13 year olds would be on the border of the age group that could handle COD4. I'd say play through it yourself. You're the only one that knows your kid well enough, and all kids are different. Plus, you'd be playing one of the best games to come out in recent times.
Also, if your kid wants to play online, you'll run into the usual online immature trash talk. Not saying it's bad, but just go in eyes open - anyone playing COD4 online will be hit with language that could be considered to be far more profane than anything you'd hear in any movie anywhere (think locker room talk++++ with some racism and sexism mixed in). Nothing anyone that plays online hasn't heard many times before, but a newbie might be a little shocked
Well, I don't think a single person here can tell you what to let your kids play. It really depends on what you think they can handle and understand (or go right over their head, heh).
I completely respect that you're trying to find out more information about a game before letting the kid play it, though. Without ragging too much on the people who think that any kid shouldn't be playing certain games (though I would say GTAIV is the closest to being an absolute on that one...).
So, I'd say the best thing for us to do is inform the OP about the content of the game... YouTube is a great source for in game footage, I think that this was one of the original gameplay trailers, so it should be pretty representative of a typical gameplay experience, if anything, with a bias towards more action.
As for online multiplayer, when I play online on 360, very rarely does anyone actually talk in CoD4, but I would definitely recommend muting everyone, however you can do that. Some of the stuff I've heard during Halo matches would straight up eat your sanity alive...
I completely respect that you're trying to find out more information about a game before letting the kid play it, though. Without ragging too much on the people who think that any kid shouldn't be playing certain games (though I would say GTAIV is the closest to being an absolute on that one...).
So, I'd say the best thing for us to do is inform the OP about the content of the game... YouTube is a great source for in game footage, I think that this was one of the original gameplay trailers, so it should be pretty representative of a typical gameplay experience, if anything, with a bias towards more action.
As for online multiplayer, when I play online on 360, very rarely does anyone actually talk in CoD4, but I would definitely recommend muting everyone, however you can do that. Some of the stuff I've heard during Halo matches would straight up eat your sanity alive...
I played Quake 1 and both Doom 1 and 2 when I was 6-7 years old, and yet for some reason at nearly the age of 17 I am completely normal! Why? Because my parents told me the difference between what was real and what was fake. I knew from a very young age that killing people on the computer was perfectly ok, and that doing that stuff in real life was wrong. You don't see people jumping on other peoples heads hoping coins come out after playing Mario now do you? As long as parents burn it into their kids heads that doing the same things in games like GTA is wrong in the real world but perfectly ok in the virtual world, there is nothing to worry about.
Personally, I have been playing the most violent video games since I got my super nintendo way back when. I'm 20 now and I can honestly say that I am one of the least violent people you will ever meet. I have two brothers, both of whom I have never even punched. I also rarely swear or cuss.
All in all I think it has a lot to do with parenting. My mother brought me up well so it didn't matter what kind of video games I played.
All in all I think it has a lot to do with parenting. My mother brought me up well so it didn't matter what kind of video games I played.
Yes, yes, yes, and yes! I played WOW for 3 years, and was addicted for more than 2 of those. (I'm a college student.) Yeah, it CAN be a fun game, depending on who's playing it, but it is quite addicting, to the point that homework and sleep usually fall by the wayside. On top of that, it was incredibly annoying having the 13-year olds running around asking stupid questions and spamming the chat boxes... But yes, absolutely do not allow your child to play WOW. It's for gameplay addiction reasons, to say absolutely nothing of paying $15 a month on top of purchasing the game.
Douglas
If you permit your 13year old to watch a film like Black Hawk Down then there is really no issue here. However, the subject matter of CoD4 is not really aimed at a young teenager. The game is intense and violent.
My view is that video games do not cause problems but could act as the catalyst for latent problems in some kids. It's quite easy to understand that some adults live in a fantasy world because they do not have sufficient contact with real people beyond their internet connection. I think if you allow your child to play CoD4 then just restrict it to short bursts (no pun intended).
I would also echo the comments about the multiplayer swearing. Yes it's there, yes it's not pleasant to hear and it is not just kids being unpleasant either.
If you permit your 13year old to watch a film like Black Hawk Down then there is really no issue here. However, the subject matter of CoD4 is not really aimed at a young teenager. The game is intense and violent.
My view is that video games do not cause problems but could act as the catalyst for latent problems in some kids. It's quite easy to understand that some adults live in a fantasy world because they do not have sufficient contact with real people beyond their internet connection. I think if you allow your child to play CoD4 then just restrict it to short bursts (no pun intended).
I would also echo the comments about the multiplayer swearing. Yes it's there, yes it's not pleasant to hear and it is not just kids being unpleasant either.
agreed. my nephew (13 y/o) was playing (local) the other day and he asked me to do parts of some levels. Not because it was hard, not even because it was violent but mainly because it was nerves wrecking...
Thank you! Christ almighty, someone who sees some sense. Don't judge whether a game is right for your child based on the rating, but more on your own assessment of his maturity.
I tell you, if someone told me what content I could and could not consume at 13 I'd've gone up the flippin' wall ;P
On another note, CoD4 is awesome yes, but probably won't run on your Mac Mini. I have to tone it down for my iMac as it is.
Starcraft, WoW, Warcraft, various Ambrosia games and even Lugaru should run fine and are good entertainment (at a fairly reasonable price these days)
For a future purchase, I couldn't recommend Spore any more; it's set to be a great Sim game.
13 seems young for call of duty 4, but I can remember when I was in 6th grade and my mom got me street fighter 2 for christmas. She had the same reservations at the time about that game, but obviously it didn't warp my mind. I'm 25 now, and obviously I swear, but I learned that from my parents and not from any video game. COD doesn't even have bad language in it that I can remember.
We did have fun fighting like street fighters, but we never tried to hurt each other, and we obviously never threw weapons at each other -- I mean we kids but we weren't idiots. Most people don't give kids credit for how smart they are... assuming that you're raising them right.
COD is much more realistic that SF2 ever was, but I don't know if that matters.
In some ways it is educational. It teaches you that war is extremely unfair: you can play perfect strategy and still get killed just because the situation goes against you. Of course, it also glosses over things like when are you morally justified in killing somebody.
I think the bottom line is that it's case by case. I'd be more worried about the addictive qualities of the game than the violent qualities, since most 13 year olds have seen violent movies, but few are aware of the dangers of addiction. The game is highly addictive, and I don't necessarily mean that in a good way, even though it is one of my favorite games ever made.
We did have fun fighting like street fighters, but we never tried to hurt each other, and we obviously never threw weapons at each other -- I mean we kids but we weren't idiots. Most people don't give kids credit for how smart they are... assuming that you're raising them right.
COD is much more realistic that SF2 ever was, but I don't know if that matters.
In some ways it is educational. It teaches you that war is extremely unfair: you can play perfect strategy and still get killed just because the situation goes against you. Of course, it also glosses over things like when are you morally justified in killing somebody.
I think the bottom line is that it's case by case. I'd be more worried about the addictive qualities of the game than the violent qualities, since most 13 year olds have seen violent movies, but few are aware of the dangers of addiction. The game is highly addictive, and I don't necessarily mean that in a good way, even though it is one of my favorite games ever made.
On the hardest mode, you could also vaguely argue that it teaches combat technique... So if they ever wanna be a soldier ...
When I first played it, I found it really fun to be one of the guys doing a breach, or sneaking around knifing people from behind.
It's hella fun
When I first played it, I found it really fun to be one of the guys doing a breach, or sneaking around knifing people from behind.
It's hella fun
Its a good history lesson. Really it is. The Chernobyl re-creation on that game was so friggen realistic and true to the actual site.
Other games like grand theft auto shooters are the ones to avoid.