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Can Apple get in trouble for falsely advertising the ATI 4850 chip in the new iMacs?

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Tymbo

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not that it's what I intend to do, because I'm keeping it no matter what, but if ~half of Apple is saying it's the desktop version (with the other ~half saying it's mobility), and people are making purchases based on that "confirmation", I wonder what the policy is on "I would like to return my iMac because you guys told me that it was the desktop variant and that's what I was expecting, but it's not... that's false advertising."

I wonder what Apple would tell them/do.

I can almost smell the lawsuits.... or is this just me?
 
I agree, Apple should be more specific about the components in the computers.

The reason they are so secretive is because Mobility chips perform worse than the desktop editions. They are probably hoping people look at the model of the graphics card and think its the better performing desktop edition.

I made this mistake myself when I first got into the mac scene and looked at the graphics option.

The iMac graphics are not desktop graphics because full size cards use far more power, take up more space, and produce far more heat than the iMac's form factor can handle. Unless of course they are crippled and under-clocked, in which case they still would not be comparable to full-blown PC cards.

I think the Mac Pro has the only honest to goodness desktop cards in the entire Apple line up.
 
maybe it will go on Apple's PERMANENT RECORD

LMAO...maybe everyone should wait until they are actually shipped.
 
jessica. said:
*shakes head*
Awesome, simply awesome.
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I'm srry, but when people throw around the "Crippled" line around it just annoys me to no end. So they bump it down slightly, most users will never notice.

I DO think however, that there should be at least an option on the Pro's (they are supposed to be powerhouses after all) to go fully clocked.
 
NT1440 said:
I DO think however, that there should be at least an option on the Pro's (they are supposed to be powerhouses after all) to go fully clocked.
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Then why doesn't Apple have something fully clocked on their Mac Pros? Are they scared of something? What are they afraid of? Overheating card? I do not think so in a Mac Pro.
 
kabunaru said:
Then why doesn't Apple have something fully clocked on their Mac Pros? Are they scared of something? What are they afraid of? Overheating card? I do not think so in a Mac Pro.
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Why are you asking me? All I said is I would like to see users having that option.

I do think it may have to do with heat management, but again, I personally do not speak for apple.
 
Tymbo said:
not that it's what I intend to do, because I'm keeping it no matter what, but if ~half of Apple is saying it's the desktop version (with the other ~half saying it's mobility), and people are making purchases based on that "confirmation", I wonder what the policy is on "I would like to return my iMac because you guys told me that it was the desktop variant and that's what I was expecting, but it's not... that's false advertising."

I wonder what Apple would tell them/do.

I can almost smell the lawsuits.... or is this just me?
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I have a Rev. A of the Alum iMac, 2.8, 24" extreme computer. The graphics card, whether it isn't a full card or not doesn't matter to me. I only care about color accuracy, and the speed in which I can work on the iMac to work in Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc.

I think there are a percentage of designers who buy an imac, but the general public, I would say, could care less if it was a desktop card, or a mobile card.

Just my take on this.
 
DesignerOnMac said:
I have a Rev. A of the Alum iMac, 2.8, 24" extreme computer. The graphics card, whether it isn't a full card or not doesn't matter to me. I only care about color accuracy, and the speed in which I can work on the iMac to work in Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc.

I think there are a percentage of designers who buy an imac, but the general public, I would say, could care less if it was a desktop card, or a mobile card.

Just my take on this.
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I believe the greater concern is over the Mac Pro. It's still rather annoying when Apple plays off mobile components as desktop ones though on the iMac.

NT1440 said:
How much more function is an average user going to get out of a 100 Mhz or two in an iMac? honestly?
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Average users, here? :rolleyes:
 
Eidorian said:
Average users, here? :rolleyes:
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Lol you have a point, for some reason when people try to make sense of Apples actions, they forget to factor in the other 98% of customers out there that would NEVER see any real world gains from full clock in an iMac verses underclocked.

Then again, if you are even thinking about Apple's marketing strategy and if cards are fully clocked, i guess your not an average buyer by any means.

I need to sit down, all this thinkin is overheating my brain, damn I wish it was underclocked to "average buyer" status.:p
 
NT1440 said:
Lol you have a point, for some reason when people try to make sense of Apples actions, they forget to factor in the other 98% of customers out there that would NEVER see any real world gains from full clock in an iMac verses underclocked.
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In other words, 98% of consumers do not care what GPU they are getting or are too dumb to even know if the GPU they are getting is any good. :confused:
Is this what you are saying?
 
kabunaru said:
In other words, 98% of consumers do not care what GPU they are getting or are too dumb to even know if the GPU they are getting is any good. :confused:
Is this what you are saying?
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I'm saying that the majority of computer buyers have no idea how computers work, or the impact of a GPU. Its not a matter of intelligence, as for the VAST majority, there wont be that much of a difference to them. Apple offers them standard options that are far from being unuseable. These cards will easily handle anything your average consumer can throw at it. The iMacs are consumer computers after all.

I'm not sure why you think there is a link between intelligence and knowing the ins and outs of something that will not have much of an impact, if any, on their experience.
 
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