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russell_314

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They like to make profits so probably you are right.

If they upgrade the HDMI port to 2.1 and the SD card reader to support USH-II SD cards, probably they can still use the same case.
Well most companies that want to stay in business like to make profits. Not making a profit is one way to go out of business and not make anything ever again
 

hajime

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Depends on what you mean by "silent" and what you mean by handle. The 14" Pro chassis can dissipate around 25-30W easily without ramping the fans up, for the 16" Pro this is around 35-40W. If M2 Pro is M2 based (N5P), then the CPU clusters should peak at around 40-45W under sustainment load.

For me, "silent" means no fan noise 98% of the time. "Dead silent" means no noise at all 100% of the time no matter what task is performed. By "handle", I mean like the current MacBook Pro 16 2021, no fan noise no matters what you do to it.

I did not do benchmark on it when I had it so I don't know if the fans kick in when such task is performed. Does MacBook Pro M1 Pro 16" generate fan noise when it is doing benchmarking?
 

darngooddesign

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For me, "silent" means no fan noise 98% of the time. "Dead silent" means no noise at all 100% of the time no matter what task is performed. By "handle", I mean like the current MacBook Pro 16 2021, no fan noise no matters what you do to it.

I did not do benchmark on it when I had it so I don't know if the fans kick in when such task is performed. Does MacBook Pro M1 Pro 16" generate fan noise when it is doing benchmarking?
First of all, even the M1-Pro 16" will turn on its fans if you are doing something demanding.
 

Lounge vibes 05

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The current MBP design has a long future ahead of it.
The original aluminum design was introduced in 2003.
The unibody aluminum design was introduced in 2008.
The RMBP was introduced in 2012.
The TouchBar design was introduced in 2016.
The current design was introduced in 2021.
So I wouldn’t expect a major change in the design again until 2025 at the earliest.
Now they might make small tweaks over the years, so personally I would not purchase an expensive case that fits the M1 pro version, and expected to 100% fit the next one.
Apple has slightly change the dimensions or the port placement or the thinness here and there over the years.
For example, the 2013 RMBP was 0.04MM thinner than the 2012, the late 2019 16-MBP was slightly thicker and wider than the old 15 inch, etc.
But overall, I would expect it to stay about the same
 
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hajime

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The current MBP design has a long future ahead of it.
The original aluminum design was introduced in 2003.
The unibody aluminum design was introduced in 2008.
The RMBP was introduced in 2012.
The TouchBar design was introduced in 2016.
The current design was introduced in 2021.
So I wouldn’t expect a major change in the design again until 2025 at the earliest.
Now they might make small tweaks over the years, so personally I would not purchase an expensive case that fits the M1 pro version, and expected to 100% fit the next one.
Apple has slightly change the dimensions or the port placement or the thinness here and there over the years.
For example, the 2013 RMBP was 0.04MM thinner than the 2012, the late 2019 16-MBP was slightly thicker and wider than the old 15 inch, etc.
But overall, I would expect it to stay about the same

Good analysis.

Speaking of cases, for the past three years, most cases are about $20 but some cases are $50+. Are cases between $50-$80 considered to be expensive. I don’t remember the cost of those Speck cases I had 20+ years ago. I had two $20s cases for the i9 MacBook Pro 16" (pre-M1 model) but they broke or lost colour easily even I didn’t drop nor scratch them. Mostly home use.
 

darngooddesign

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The current MBP design has a long future ahead of it.
The original aluminum design was introduced in 2003.
The unibody aluminum design was introduced in 2008.
The RMBP was introduced in 2012.
The TouchBar design was introduced in 2016.
The current design was introduced in 2021.
So I wouldn’t expect a major change in the design again until 2025 at the earliest.
Now they might make small tweaks over the years, so personally I would not purchase an expensive case that fits the M1 pro version, and expected to 100% fit the next one.
Apple has slightly change the dimensions or the port placement or the thinness here and there over the years.
For example, the 2013 RMBP was 0.04MM thinner than the 2012, the late 2019 16-MBP was slightly thicker and wider than the old 15 inch, etc.
But overall, I would expect it to stay about the same
The OP is asking how long the case will remain exactly and precisely the same size, not how long until there is a restyling.
 

Lounge vibes 05

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The OP is asking how long the case will remain exactly and precisely the same size, not how long until there is a restyling.
well, only Apple knows that until we do.
Also 100% serious question here, do people really put cases on their MacBooks?
I tried it years ago, and found the case did more scratching and denting of the edges of my computer than it did just being without one.
So outside of different styles and such, is there really that much benefit?
I mean, it’s sitting on a desk or in your lap when you’re using it, and then when you’re carrying it it’s usually in a bag or something.
Maybe it’s just me. I completely understand wanting to put a case on the slab of glass you toss around all day and is constantly in your hand.
But I don’t really understand the cases on MacBooks idea.
I even more don’t understand why anyone would put a screen protector on a MacBook, but I guess people do.
 
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wilberforce

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Also 100% serious question here, do people really put cases on their MacBooks?
I tried it years ago, and found the case did more scratching and denting of the edges of my computer than it did just being without one.
Reminds me of car bras. Looks cheesy, and causes more damage to the paint than it protects.

Please don't do this to your Porsche:

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hajime

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First of all, even the M1-Pro 16" will turn on its fans if you are doing something demanding.

Does it turn on the
well, only Apple knows that until we do.
Also 100% serious question here, do people really put cases on their MacBooks?
I tried it years ago, and found the case did more scratching and denting of the edges of my computer than it did just being without one.
So outside of different styles and such, is there really that much benefit?
I mean, it’s sitting on a desk or in your lap when you’re using it, and then when you’re carrying it it’s usually in a bag or something.
Maybe it’s just me. I completely understand wanting to put a case on the slab of glass you toss around all day and is constantly in your hand.
But I don’t really understand the cases on MacBooks idea.
I even more don’t understand why anyone would put a screen protector on a MacBook, but I guess people do.

It saved my MacBook Pro 17" once. I put my backpack on the hanger behind a toilet door. While I was loosing some weights, the hanger broke and the backpack dropped. The case broke and the laptop suffered some damages. Damages could be more serious.
 

darngooddesign

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It saved my MacBook Pro 17" once. I put my backpack on the hanger behind a toilet door. While I was loosing some weights, the hanger broke and the backpack dropped. The case broke and the laptop suffered some damages. Damages could be more serious.
Yep. Hardcases have saved my MBP in the past as well. If your MacBook never leaves the house they aren't necessary, but if you go places with them, they're pretty great.

I always get Silver (or Starlight now) MacBooks and iPads because Apple's anodizing always scratches and wears. Light colors simply hide the wear better.
 

hajime

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Yep. Hardcases have saved my MBP in the past as well. If your MacBook never leaves the house they aren't necessary, but if you go places with them, they're pretty great.

I always get Silver (or Starlight now) MacBooks and iPads because Apple's anodizing always scratches and wears. Light colors simply hide the wear better.

How does the Starlight look in person? I went to an Apple store but it looked similar to the silver one under colored lightings at the store. I did not even know it is Starlight until the store employee told me.
 

darngooddesign

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How does the Starlight look in person? I went to an Apple store but it looked similar to the silver one under colored lightings at the store. I did not even know it is Starlight until the store employee told me.
I haven't seen it in person, but my understanding is that while silver is neutral, starlight is warmer and a bit shimmery gold under light.
 

pshufd

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What I'd love is a slider in macOS where you can limit the number of cores and which type of cores are used. Low Power Mode is good but it wouldn't be nice to be able to fine-tune it.
 
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