Can iPad Pro replace a laptop?

[roneylirio]

I think Ipad is still far from replacing a laptop, any review that think they speak it on Youtube.

to edit text, just text you get the Ipad, but editing text with spreadsheets is virtually impossible because you have to use the mouse too. To do something like save something, it's 3 steps on Ipad and PC you can be faster.

This is fact, Ipad can not compete with a PC, puts a person on the PC and other noIpad to do the same things, let's see who will be faster.

but Ipad for navigation, watch videos and read PDF, of course it's better, it was created by Jobs for that.


Cook is just looking to sell their fish and wanting to put in people's minds that it is a fish.

 

[M. Gustave]

This is fact, Ipad can not compete with a PC, puts a person on the PC and other noIpad to do the same things, let's see who will be faster.

That is why you fail, grasshopper.

 

[roneylirio]

That is why you fail, grasshopper.

why I said, Ipad and Pc are not to do the same things.


grasshopper. ?????????

 

[Abazigal]

This is fact, Ipad can not compete with a PC, puts a person on the PC and other noIpad to do the same things, let's see who will be faster.

Does that not ultimately depend on what the task is? I find the iPad excels in mobile tasks of moderate complexity or less because it represents an excellent compromise of ease of use, portability and battery life.

Take blogging for instance. I can use my iPad to take photos and insert them directly into a blog post via the wordpress app. And I can do this outside with a 4g iPad. And I have done this when I accompanied my students on overseas exchange programmes. Part of the reason I favoured my iPad over a smartphone was also due to its longer battery life (taking photos and data use really kills your battery). I could consistently keep the school blog updated throughout the entire day. A PC or laptop requires a dedicated internet connection (be it via wifi or hotspot), and you still have to import the photos from a smartphone or camera. As a result, my colleague who went the following year could only update their blog at the end of the day, after returning to their hotel room.

Or when I am grading my students for their fitness test out in the open field, I can input their results to google docs directly on my iPad. Not so easy on a laptop out in the field with poor wifi connectivity and limited battery life.

Recording screencasts just got easier on the iPad thanks to the Apple Pencil.

As a teacher, there are so many tasks I prefer to do on an iPad simply because it is faster and more seamless. Heck, my iPad even doubles as a makeshift visualiser when necessary.

 

[Night Spring]

On the iPhone 6s models, 3D Touch makes copy/paste much easier and faster than a traditional mouse. Yet I'm not convinced 3D Touch makes sense on an iPad.

I wasn't aware 3D Touch changed the way you do copy and paste. What changed? I just got a 6 plus and am still learning how to use 3D touch.

 

[masotime]

I wasn't aware 3D Touch changed the way you do copy and paste. What changed? I just got a 6 plus and am still learning how to use 3D touch.

Probably referring to using force-touch onto the on-screen keyboard. See http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...ard-as-a-trackpad-with-3d-touch-on-iphone-6s-

 

[Night Spring]

Probably referring to using force-touch onto the on-screen keyboard. See http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...ard-as-a-trackpad-with-3d-touch-on-iphone-6s-

Isn't that the same thing as using two fingers on the iPad keyboard to turn it into a trackpad?

 

[sracer]

why I said, Ipad and Pc are not to do the same things.


grasshopper. ?????????

grasshopper = a reference to the nickname given to a young pupil in the 1970's TV series "Kung Fu".

With regard to what the iPad can do vs. what a PC/macbook can do...

If you attempt to perform a desktop/notebook workflow on the iPad (or any mobile device) you will fail or it will be more difficult than doing it on a desktop/notebook.

If you readjust your focus from "this is HOW I get this task done" to "this is WHAT I need done" you re-think how you perform the task and on to what it is you are trying to accomplish in the end. WHAT is the end result. When you do that, you'll find that sometimes the path taken is different on a notebook/desktop than it is on a mobile device. The destination is the same, but the path taken is different.

Apple's "tagline" was "Think Differently". That seems to be lost on this generation of customers who have become set in their ways and want to stick with what works at the expense of benefiting from a fresh, new approach that might be better suited.

 

[M. Gustave]

I wasn't aware 3D Touch changed the way you do copy and paste. What changed? I just got a 6 plus and am still learning how to use 3D touch.

Use one finger long press on the keyboard to activate the cursor, move it over the word you want selected, then apply some force to highlight it, drag around to highlight a larger selection.

 

[617aircav]

For me it can't. How would I sync my music to my iPhone or backup my iPhone.

 

[masotime]

Isn't that the same thing as using two fingers on the iPad keyboard to turn it into a trackpad?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Night Spring]

For me it can't. How would I sync my music to my iPhone or backup my iPhone.

Well, Apple wants you to use iTunes Match or Apple Music to sync your music, and iCloud backup to backup your iPhone.
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Use one finger long press on the keyboard to activate the cursor, move it over the word you want selected, then apply some force to highlight it, drag around to highlight a larger selection.

Trying, but finding it difficult to get into highlight mode. The extra pressure required seems too subtle. 3D Touch is really problematic for users like me self with coordination difficulties.

 

[Cheffy Dave]

ouch. It's a good reminder for me to avoid beating that same drum too loudly and too often. LOL

Yeah, cus the drum police are lurking, get a life!

 

[Appleaker]

AAPL has a real quandary about this, IMO. On the iPhone 6s models, 3D Touch makes copy/paste much easier and faster than a traditional mouse. Yet I'm not convinced 3D Touch makes sense on an iPad.

iOS 9 was designed with 3D Touch in mind as you can see from the keyboard trackpad which actually works better with 3D Touch due to the pressure corresponding with moving the cursor or selecting - they may have even considered it for the iPhone first!

Anyway, 3D Touch is designed for smaller devices with limited screen space and therefore may be less functional on an iPad. Along with this, the haptic feedback would be hard to implement as the Taptic Engine may not provide a vibration across the whole device. In my opinion 3D Touch on iPhone more important than on iPad however I'm really excited to see what they do with it.

 

[Beavix]

I've been trying to use an iPad Pro for work. Each and every time I want to do something productive on that device it feels like working on a puzzle with missing pieces.

Today I wanted to do something very simple: (1) make a web page using a text editor, (2) make a favicon using a graphics editor, (3) upload both files to my server. I use Coda for HTML editing and FTP upload, and Graphic for creating graphics. These are some of the best pro apps for iPad, almost as good as their Mac versions. I have no complains here. These apps could allow me to work comfortably on my iPad Pro under most situations.

The problem is iOS and the lack of regular file management features. It took me half an hour and another two or three apps just to find a way to put a couple of files into the same place so I can upload them to my server. I found that:

• Safari still cannot download a ZIP file to iCloud Drive (and I'm using iOS 10 public beta, so no hope for the future).
• Coda can only import files from iCloud Drive
• Graphic can only export files to Dropbox
• I had to use a third app (Documents by Readdle) to move files between iCloud Drive and Dropbox, until they arrived in Coda's file space where I was able to upload them. I repeated the tedious process each and every time I had to make changes to the files.
• When trying to move two or more files using one of the above mentioned apps (I can't remember which one) I found that I can only select one file at the time in the rudimentary iOS file picker.

And this is all because Apple refuses to add a universal file manager, available to every app. I don't blame the app developers for this mess. The apps are good but iOS is simply garbage. And that's the main reason why an iPad could not replace my computer.

 

[Night Spring]

The problem is iOS and the lack of regular file management features. It took me half an hour and another two or three apps just to find a way to put a couple of files into the same place so I can upload them to my server.

Did you try FileBrowser or GoodReader? I can't vouch they'll work for your workflow, but for me, between those two apps, I've never felt like iOS file management was lacking.

Also, it occurs to me that your problem might be solved if Coda worked with other cloud services, like Dropbox. Yes, maybe this mess is ultimately Apple's fault for not providing a universal file management system, but given the current state of affairs, I feel like it's also up to app developers to have their apps work with as many cloud storage solutions as possible.

 

[M. Gustave]

...iOS is simply garbage.

Childish hyperbole. And your specialized content creation use-case may indeed fall under the domain of a desktop OS. So?

 

[sracer]

Childish hyperbole. And your specialized content creation use-case may indeed fall under the domain of a desktop OS. So?

I missed that in his post. Hyperbole aside, he does make valid observations. As for whether or not Apple will or should address those shortcomings, that's another issue.

I would hope that Apple understands these concerns, and not dismiss them as simply of the "I want iOS to be macOS" variety (though some clearly are) but are looking into designing an elegant solution that works within the iOS paradigm. Of course, those who refuse to "think differently" would complain about that solution.

On a slightly off topic subject, I'd like to see Apple make up their minds as to where application settings belong. Do they stick with the individual apps or centralized in "Settings"?

 

[Bubba Satori]

Did you try FileBrowser or GoodReader? I can't vouch they'll work for your workflow, but for me, between those two apps, I've never felt like iOS file management was lacking.

Whoa, cool beans. Didn't know about those apps.
Not having a file system was a deal breaker for me and the iPad.
Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Night Spring]

On a slightly off topic subject, I'd like to see Apple make up their minds as to where application settings belong. Do they stick with the individual apps or centralized in "Settings"?

That also annoys me very much. I think it would make sense if there was one set of "settings" per app, but they were accessible through both the Settings and also through the app. That way, it's a way to have a centralized place from which users can access app settings, without users having to figure out which settings are located in which place. But no, some apps have all settings in-app, others have them in Settings, and others divide their settings in-app and in Settings, with no logic as to which settings appear in which place. Apple's own iBooks has the settings for line justification in Settings, but all other formatting settings are in-app. SIGH.

 

[mrex]

[*]I had to use a third app (Documents by Readdle)

If there wasnt Documents, i quess my ipad would have been against the wall several times

 

[sracer]

If there wasnt Documents, i quess my ipad would have been against the wall several times

Documents is overrated IMO. Many people offer up Documents in response to the expressed need for a file system in iOS. I have tried Documents numerous times (every time it is mentioned to see if some updated version provides new function) and it doesn't help me do anything beyond what is offered by iOS' cloud service API.

 

[bufffilm]

Depending on your workflow, I find that using clipboard management apps such as Copied can actually be faster and more convenient on iOS than the old-fashioned copy-and-paste mechanic on a PC, but it requires a huge change in your mindset and the way you approach the task.

So instead of the old "copy this bunch of text, alt-tab, paste it there, rinse and repeat" mechanic, you would first have to identify every chunk of text you need to copy on iOS, save them to copied in rapid succession, then hop over to the other app, and paste them in all at one short using the 3rd party keyboard.

For example, I use Copied for when I need to quickly insert multiple quotes on forums like TheVerge which don't support multi-quote, or for pasting multiple website links in Google Classroom. Effective, but darn, it took me quite a while to get used to the sequence.

I'm going to try Copied out...thanks for mentioning it.

 

[Night Spring]

Documents is overrated IMO. Many people offer up Documents in response to the expressed need for a file system in iOS. I have tried Documents numerous times (every time it is mentioned to see if some updated version provides new function) and it doesn't help me do anything beyond what is offered by iOS' cloud service API.

Never tried Documents myself. FileBrowser, on the other hand, has provided a way to attach multiple attachments to an email almost from the very beginning. It can also copy/move multiple files at once between cloud services and networked storage drives. You can also unzip files. I think iOS has gradually been catching up to FileBrowser, but it still has some functions not provided by iOS, and it has a better UI.

 

[Lapine Rider]

Yes, these threads all need to be consolidated in one place. Contrariwise, perhaps one of the site's authors can write up an Authoritative Guide to serve as a center-point everyone can refer people to, and update it as needed? Site Admins please take note.

That said, I write novels. Not only is an iPad with any of the many available keyboard options good for 99% of the work and okay for the rest, I actually find myself composing more and more often on my iPhone 6+. People stare, especially as the hours pass and it becomes evident that I'm not merely composing a quick e-mail. But that's perfectly fine by me. What works, works.

I've successfully written at least six novels on iPads. (And perhaps a quarter of one, in bits and pieces, on my 6+.) But... I do admit missing having a pointing device enough that I prefer to use a 12" Mac book instead these days. Make bluetooth mice work on the iPad, and I'm there again in a heartbeat.