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uhh...

Oh Ok,,, had we known about your superior research skills we could have solicited answers from you about the limitations of the iPhone. Can we contact you in the future before making other purchases? :eek:

It seems like you're trying to mock me by saying I'm smarter than you. If that's the case, I'm okay with that.

I am certain if all of us who have a problem with the iPhone limitations in this regard had known about it, it would not have stopped us from buying it.

So you bought it knowing the limitations and now you think it's okay to complain that it doesn't do what you want? Really?


I see people on this forum point out various things about the iPhone that they do not like everyday on this forum, some I agree with some I do not. This is just one of the arguements I am in complete agreement with because I have never synched any of my Ipods, my son does not synch his nor does my GF. We all manually manage our iPods and iPhones, and create playlist to drop our music in.

Great.

When I have my external HD connected to my laptop to transfer music to my iPhone and my GF says, put something on her iPhone or my son says put something on his, guess what? I can not, why?

You realize that some of these steps were taken to prevent piracy, which is exactly what you're doing here. I'm not going to proclaim that I'm a saint, but I'm surely not going to bitch at apple because they made it tougher to pirate music.

She will have to wait until I am done to connect the drive to her laptop and then drop the music on her iPhone as will my son. Where as with our iPods that is not the case. Can you now see why this is an issue?

Again, piracy. While in some cases this isn't the issue (I have no idea if YOUR case is), I would say the majority of people want this to pirate music.
Also, the iPhone was never advertised as an external hard drive, which is really what manually managing music turns an iPod in to.

So no, I don't see why you're mad. I also like the idea that the iPhone is more closed than another iPod, as losing my music might be one thing, but re-syncing by accident to a different computer would really screw up my iPhone.
 
Also, the iPhone was never advertised as an external hard drive, which is really what manually managing music turns an iPod in to.

How is copying music to a player, and then not copying it off an external hard drive?
 
Really?

How is copying music to a player, and then not copying it off an external hard drive?

Seriously? You don't see any similarities between manually managing your music or just dragging/copying to an iPod directly, similar to how an external hard drive works?
 
Seriously? You don't see any similarities between manually managing your music or just dragging/copying to it directly, similar to how an external hard drive works?
Of course you can find similarities, but the key is that iTunes is still managing the whole process.
 
and?

Of course you can find similarities, but the key is that iTunes is still managing the whole process.

Still unclear why this is a problem. What's wrong with iTunes (besides the 'you can only sync an iPhone to one computer thing)?
 
Still unclear why this is a problem. What's wrong with iTunes (besides the 'you can only sync an iPhone to one computer thing)?
Nobody is saying there is anything wrong with iTunes. I use iTunes to manage my music and it works fine, except for the 'you can only sync an iPhone to one computer' thing as you call it. The iPhone is a step backwards in this area.
 
okay.

Nobody is saying there is anything wrong with iTunes. I use iTunes to manage my music and it works fine, except for the 'you can only sync an iPhone to one computer' thing as you call it. The iPhone is a step backwards in this area.

ever think the iPhone might have been locked down for reasons other than just spite? Security? The less things I can sync or plug my iPhone into, the less chance I run on accidentally erasing it, or data corruption issues.
 
Tyler:

You are a tool dude, admit it. You sit here and attack people constantly for providing constructive critisicm and feedback about their iPhones.

Here are the facts:

-Apple does not disclose to the public the limitations of only being able to sync music and video on the iPhone with one computer. It's not on the box, the marketing materials, or anywhere on the Apple marketing web site.

-Apple advertised the iPhone as the BEST ipod ever. If this is the case, then they should make it work exactly or BETTER then an ipod, and not add more limitations to it which basically make it useless as an ipod.

-Your comment about not having music on your computer at work is completely un-necessary. The truth is some companies encourage employees to listen to music and watch videos at work (my company happens to be a digital media company, cool huh?) What's wrong does your IT department not let you do that, and you're jealous so you make a bitter and rude comments?

-Some people do use the iPod and iPhone for purposes other then music at work as other posters have pointed out, recording meetings for one, listening to training audio books provided by the company in mp3 format for two.

You know if you don't like people openly discussing shortcomings of a product don't read the thread, but please keep your nasty and hateful comments to yourself.

Oh and by the way, I noticed you posted a link to this thread on your blog. For the record, I have the $299 iPhone, and also for the record, my previous phone to the iPhone was $500, so it's not like I can't afford the original iPhone, your comment on your blog is so lame.
 
I have the Touch 32 gb and just ordered a 3G 16gb. I can manually put music on my touch from any iTunes account. I'm quite dismayed that I'll be loosing this ability with the 3G as when I'm on the road I sometimes buy an album and like to upload it to a friends iTunes and then put it on my Touch since I'm nowhere near my home computer.

I wonder if the iPod touch performs the same way, or if it works like all the REGULAR ipods do! The regular ipods let you copy from any computer as long as you check the box that says manually manage music/videos.
 
Tyler:

You are a tool dude, admit it. You sit here and attack people constantly for providing constructive critisicm and feedback about their iPhones.

I'm not attacking anyone personally. I think what you say is ridiculous.

Here are the facts:
-Apple does not disclose to the public the limitations of only being able to sync music and video on the iPhone with one computer. It's not on the box, the marketing materials, or anywhere on the Apple marketing web site.

Well, we must have grown up around different technologies. If something doesn't specifically say it CAN do something, I don't expect it to until I see it happen. The iPhone doesn't SAY that it can't be synced to multiple computers, so I don't expect it to.

-Apple advertised the iPhone as the BEST ipod ever. If this is the case, then they should make it work exactly or BETTER then an ipod, and not add more limitations to it which basically make it useless as an ipod.

It seems like you took the phrase "best iPod ever" and decided for yourself what that meant. I would guess any people say it as a phrase designed to sell more iPods.

-Your comment about not having music on your computer at work is completely un-necessary. The truth is some companies encourage employees to listen to music and watch videos at work (my company happens to be a digital media company, cool huh?) What's wrong does your IT department not let you do that, and you're jealous so you make a bitter and rude comments?

Every company I've worked for allows this, but I don't sync my personal iPhone to my work computer, it's synced to my personal laptop. And yes, your digital media company sounds VERY cool. I'm sure you're very lucky to work there.

-Some people do use the iPod and iPhone for purposes other then music at work as other posters have pointed out, recording meetings for one, listening to training audio books provided by the company in mp3 format for two.

I use my iPods and iPhone for these same things. For my iPod I used the iTalk to record interviews and meetings, for my iPhone I just bought a $2 app called SpeakEasy to record audio. Works great.
I listen to company audiobooks as well (not technically books from my company, but books my managers have recommended for our team).

You know if you don't like people openly discussing shortcomings of a product don't read the thread, but please keep your nasty and hateful comments to yourself.

I have no problem with what you're doing and never said that I did. None of my comments were nasty or hateful. If you thought that they were, maybe you're insecure about what you said and are a little defensive. You should work on that.

Oh and by the way, I noticed you posted a link to this thread on your blog. For the record, I have the $299 iPhone, and also for the record, my previous phone to the iPhone was $500, so it's not like I can't afford the original iPhone, your comment on your blog is so lame.

I'm happy that you were able to afford both. My comment wasn't specifically directed at you, but in general I would say that subsidizing the 3G iPhone brought a lot more problem customers than the original did.

Thanks for the feedback. Glad you checked out my site.
 
How about this from page 61 of the iPhone User Guide:


"You can transfer content on iPhone that was purchased using iTunes on one computer to an iTunes library on another authorized computer. The computer must be authorized to play content from your iTunes account.

Transfer Purchased Content: Connect iPhone to the other computer. iTunes asks if you want to transfer purchased content."


I haven't been able to try this yet, but doesn't it solve the original problem we were discussing before we digressed into insults?
 
hey...

How about this from page 61 of the iPhone User Guide:


"You can transfer content on iPhone that was purchased using iTunes on one computer to an iTunes library on another authorized computer. The computer must be authorized to play content from your iTunes account.

Transfer Purchased Content: Connect iPhone to the other computer. iTunes asks if you want to transfer purchased content."


I haven't been able to try this yet, but doesn't it solve the original problem we were discussing before we digressed into insults?

Watch out, this kind of thinking might not be allowed in dem here parts.

Interesting though.
 
How about this from page 61 of the iPhone User Guide:


"You can transfer content on iPhone that was purchased using iTunes on one computer to an iTunes library on another authorized computer. The computer must be authorized to play content from your iTunes account.

Transfer Purchased Content: Connect iPhone to the other computer. iTunes asks if you want to transfer purchased content."


I haven't been able to try this yet, but doesn't it solve the original problem we were discussing before we digressed into insults?


I have tried this and it does not work. I authorized my computer on my GF iPhone and was still unable to put any music on it.

One more thing for Tyler on music Piracy. In all my years of living, I have been around since 8 track players were still in stereos. I was here when the vinyl album was the thing as well as the 45' record. Even as technology moved to the cassette and then to the CD I have never in all my years heard of anyone buying a 8 track, an album, a 45, a cassette or a CD when someone in their family already purchased it. So if you want to call sharing music with my son and my GF piracy by all means go right ahead but I will be damned if I ever by a song more than once for any reason!!
 
One more thing as it relate to authorizing more than one computer, it does work as the user manual says. However you can only transfer purchased music, meaning music you purchased from iTunes. Of course that means if you purchased cd's and used them to put music on your iPhone, those songs will be deleted. Which means that Apple only consider "purchased music", to be music you bought via iTunes. How lame is that? :apple:
 
Okay.

One more thing for Tyler on music Piracy. In all my years of living, I have been around since 8 track players were still in stereos. I was here when the vinyl album was the thing as well as the 45' record. Even as technology moved to the cassette and then to the CD I have never in all my years heard of anyone buying a 8 track, an album, a 45, a cassette or a CD when someone in their family already purchased it. So if you want to call sharing music with my son and my GF piracy by all means go right ahead but I will be damned if I ever by a song more than once for any reason!!

You can authorize an iTunes account on up to five computers, why didn't you do that here? In fact, you could create different users on your computer with each person syncing to songs via the external hard drive, yet still syncing with their contacts, calendar and whatnot.

That way you don't have to worry about syncing issues, nor do you have to worry about piracy and whatnot.

It was wrong of me to accuse you of piracy without additional information.
 
If you jailbreak your phone, there is an app that lets you sync to multiple computers.
 
I think Apple did this so you'd be forced to buy an iPod...Interesting.

Anyways I got this to work with my iPhone without a problem.
 
I'm fine with not being able to sync with more than one computer. What I am pretty pissed about though is that half my chargers won't work on the 3G. I'll be forced to get a new charger for my car when I already have two that work fine on all my other iPods.

Will I be able to do updates on other computers? I have a desktop and I'm not taking it on the road with me but I'll have access to friends computers when I'm out of state.
 
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