Can someone run this data on their M4 Pro mini premiere pro, FCP

[waloshin]

Anyone can test with the data Filen Drive . I do make money with my video editing just need to see if spending three times as much on a Mini Pro is worth it compared to base mini.

Possibly there would be no difference between them I am thinking their maybe a diminishing return which such low res video.

My results:

Windows 11 13700K, RTX 3080 10 Gb, 64 GB DDR5 ram
-9 minuts 42 seconds Premiere Pro
- Noise very high
- 550 watts power consumption


Mac mini M4 Base 16 GB Ram, 256 GB internal space

-10 minutes 43 seconds Premiere Pro 15 Mbps fan noticeable.

- 11 minutes 42 Minutes Final Cut Pro at 3 Mbps bitrate internal drive to internal

- 9 minutes 52 seconds Final Cut Pro at 3 Mbps bitrate internal drive to external will test at 15 Mb/s bitrate when I get compressor.

*7 minutes 30 seconds when video was rendered previously.

- Noise did not hear fan at all

- 60 watts power consumption.

 

[bp1000]

I downloaded it but when reading the instructions you are asking people to test a sequence in

These programs are needed
- Final Cut Pro
- Premiere Pro

Sorry I couldn't help - I know it alludes to them in the description but it wasn't immediately obvious.

 

[waloshin]

I downloaded it but when reading the instructions you are asking people to test a sequence in

These programs are needed
- Final Cut Pro
- Premiere Pro

Sorry I couldn't help - I know it alludes to them in the description but it wasn't immediately obvious.

Updated title thanks

 

[bp1000]

Maybe this will at least give you an idea.

His naming convention
M4P = Pro
M4
M2U = M2 Ultra etc....

 

[waloshin]

Maybe this will at least give you an idea.

His naming convention
M4P = Pro
M4
M2U = M2 Ultra etc....

Looks like a few seconds difference. Due to the M4 and M4 Pro being the same generation as well as having only one media decode chip. Might have to wait for a M4, M5 studio or a M5 mini next year for a performance boost.

Through some more testing my 13700K is faster at export than my M4 mini by about 5 minutes for every 2 hour video which is annoying, but 600 watts versus 60 watts is insane! The power efficiency of the M4, as well as the stability of Mac OS over Windows 11 is huge!

FCP editing is so much quicker for cutting and edits over Premiere too!

Though maybe I’m getting thermal throttling on the base mini? Fans barley ran with those high temps.

 

[waloshin]

I do export from ProRes to H264 I am thinking there would be a big difference.

Should I just order a M4 Pro 12 core or 14 core to test and see if there is a difference in export speed? Or would I be better off buying a used M2 Max on eBay?

 

[wonderspark]

My Mac Mini with M4 Pro, 14/20/16 core / 64GB RAM is supposed to be available for pickup this Friday. I downloaded your files, and I can set it up this weekend and run the Premiere test for you. I think I have FCP too, but I've not used it in years. (I tried it when the first new version came out and hated it.) If I still have FCP, I'll do that one, too.

 

[waloshin]

My Mac Mini with M4 Pro, 14/20/16 core / 64GB RAM is supposed to be available for pickup this Friday. I downloaded your files, and I can set it up this weekend and run the Premiere test for you. I think I have FCP too, but I've not used it in years. (I tried it when the first new version came out and hated it.) If I still have FCP, I'll do that one, too.

Really appreciate that!

 

[wonderspark]

Just checked... I did buy FCP in 2011. I'll do an update on it, hahaha. I might give it a second chance to see how the years have changed it.

 

[waloshin]

Just checked... I did buy FCP in 2011. I'll do an update on it, hahaha. I might give it a second chance to see how the years have changed it.

You'll be happy to know you will get FCP 11

 

[wonderspark]

So I ran it on my Mac Mini M4 Pro, 14/20 core, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, using Premiere Pro version 25.0.0 build 61.
It took 7 minutes 39 seconds, following your export specs exactly.
I could hear the fan going. In fact, it's the first time I ever heard the fan on this thing.

Next I'll try FCP 11.

 

[waloshin]

So I ran it on my Mac Mini M4 Pro, 14/20 core, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, using Premiere Pro version 25.0.0 build 61.
It took 7 minutes 39 seconds, following your export specs exactly.
I could hear the fan going. In fact, it's the first time I ever heard the fan on this thing.

Next I'll try FCP 11.

Thank you very much appreciate that! I will run mine again later this afternoon and we will compare.

 

[Melbourne Park]

An advantage for the mini M4 Pro version is that it has thunderbolt 5 so you then can use external Thunderbolt 5 drives and get 6000 Mb/s. Initial costs will be $400 for 2 TB and $600 for 4 TB. Some time there will be external T-5 cases for NVME drives which should be a cheaper again alternative to Apple's internal drives. Quite a bit faster than Apple's mini internals (Dosdude), his stripped down Mini M4 showed they run at around 2800-3000. You can install the OS on the external and boot from the external.

 

[waloshin]

If anyone has a M4 Max and would like to run it and see if the second media engine makes a difference that would be amazing too.

 

[waloshin]

So I ran it on my Mac Mini M4 Pro, 14/20 core, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD, using Premiere Pro version 25.0.0 build 61.
It took 7 minutes 39 seconds, following your export specs exactly.
I could hear the fan going. In fact, it's the first time I ever heard the fan on this thing.

Next I'll try FCP 11.

10 minutes 15 seconds in Premiere which is still quite respectful.

Compressor: 13 minutes 33 seconds

About 28% slower on the M4 16 Gb 256 Gb.

 

[840quadra]

Random, but remember the 14 day return policy, longer at places like Microcenter and such.

I am doing a host of benchmarks on my Mini M4 Pro against my M1 Pro 14" and M3 Pro 14" MacBooks and am happy so far. Like you I make money with video and also Photo editing.

So far (for my use case) I am really happy with the M4 Pro. I also wanted something to replace my 12 core cMP 5,1 with AMD R9 M370x GPU. For batch processing photos, the Mac Pro is still a touch faster, but everything else, (including power consumption) the Mini is doing quite well for me so far!

 

[wonderspark]

In your instructions, it doesn't mention running Compressor for the FCP test. Last time I used FCP (in about 2011), I exported in Compressor. I'll run it both ways, if that's a thing?

 

[waloshin]

In your instructions, it doesn't mention running Compressor for the FCP test. Last time I used FCP (in about 2011), I exported in Compressor. I'll run it both ways, if that's a thing?

Yup will run FCP soon.

 

[waloshin]

Random, but remember the 14 day return policy, longer at places like Microcenter and such.

I am doing a host of benchmarks on my Mini M4 Pro against my M1 Pro 14" and M3 Pro 14" MacBooks and am happy so far. Like you I make money with video and also Photo editing.

So far (for my use case) I am really happy with the M4 Pro. I also wanted something to replace my 12 core cMP 5,1 with AMD R9 M370x GPU. For batch processing photos, the Mac Pro is still a touch faster, but everything else, (including power consumption) the Mini is doing quite well for me so far!

I am blown away by the power of the base M4 mini even with 16 gigabytes of ram. Export speed can be important to me especially with deadlines, but honestly the M4 is amazingly fast. Honestly I can just export videos over night like I would always do or when I am doing something else. I have a Mini M4 Pro coming this week and will test it I have learned that the media encoder 265 is no good therefore A M4 Max studio would not be worth it. In Canada the M4 Pro is 2.64 times more money! Yes it would pay itself off in no time, but I will probably just keep the m4 mini and see what M5 offers next year.

 

[wonderspark]

I must be special, because I can't figure out how to export this test in FCP, nor in Compressor. It's been too long I guess. It keeps telling me "Export failed."

Side note, since you mentioned Canada. My wife is in Toronto. She just went to see Taylor Swift with her best friend. They were on the floor, right in front of the stage, and I can't believe the pics and video clips she's sent. She was just feet away!

 

[waloshin]

I must be special, because I can't figure out how to export this test in FCP, nor in Compressor. It's been too long I guess. It keeps telling me "Export failed."

Side note, since you mentioned Canada. My wife is in Toronto. She just went to see Taylor Swift with her best friend. They were on the floor, right in front of the stage, and I can't believe the pics and video clips she's sent. She was just feet away!

Do you have enough storage to export? Wow they are lucky.

 

[wonderspark]

814GB should be enough, haha. I'm reading the help file, which is embarrassing, but I'm having trouble making custom export settings. I just have all these presets, and none have your specs. In film school, we used Media Composer... I didn't ever really use Final Cut. I thought it would be so easy!

 

[wonderspark]

Finally have it going, but not exactly as you specified. It's H.264 at 12Mbps, but 720x486 instead of 480. When I choose that frame size, it crashes Compressor. Weird.

 

[wonderspark]

Not sure if this is going to be useful to you, but that export came out of Compressor as 640x486, 10.8GB, H.264... but it was finished in 3 minutes 43 seconds. I didn't even hear the fan going. Kind of nuts.

I'll do some more playing around and see if I can get it correct.

 

[waloshin]

1. FCP 12 Minutes 25 seconds.
2. Compressor 13 minutes 33 seconds.
3. Premiere Pro 10 minutes 15 seconds