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I think people are misinformed when they think this is for some reason against the rules. This has been front page news before, with links to the OSx86 Project website. This site also has a specific forum for breaking the EULA of your iphone and modifying firmware which is copyright by Apple, the iphone stuff is literally no different from a technical perspective.

ZDnet recently made a review of it as well

http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/os/0,1000001098,39415279,00.htm

If books that teach people how to make pipe bombs are legal then talking about how to install OSX on a PC sure as hell is.
 
That's an entirely different thing. Copyright laws are quite clear and making an unauthorised copy of OS X is just as illegal as copying a Britney Spears CD, it's agains the law. Therefore discussing would be a discussion about breaking the law (MR could be in trouble if they "helped" people with that, sure).

EULA, on the other hand, isn't the law. Apple could say (in the EULA) you are not allowed to whistle while using Software Update on Tuesdays and you could technically be in trouble if you did it. But that doesn't mean discussing whistling is wrong in any way.
You're missing the point -- It's not whether it is or is not legal, it's whether this site permits it in its Rules

and the rule in question is posting how to "obtain or use commercial software or media in violation of its license"
 
My top priority is screen real estate, so I wanted a 17" WUXGA screen first and foremost. The cheapest Mac Book Pro with a 17" screen is nearly $3000.

So while I would LOVE to get a Mac and while it would be nice to have ALL high end features to go with the high end screen it is not worth an extra $1500-$2000 for the privilege.

Refurbed 17" unit for $2099?
Refurb units
 
How much more expensive is it?

Refurbed 17" unit for $2099?
Refurb units

Cheapest refurb. with my top priority high-res screen (WUXGA or 1920 wide) was $2299 plus $349 for the 3 year extended warranty(AppleCare). (This is for my job) making $2650. Build your own Dell Vostro with the same screen res (my top priority) some parts reduced, a couple of parts better (dual drives - important when running multiple virtual PCs) and brand new; not refurb. $1088 + 3 year extended warranty at $299 = $1387.

I'm going to miss some of that extra hardware, and I'm really going to miss Mac OS but not as much as I'd miss the $1263 I was able to save by building to my needs.

$1263 cheaper means I'm paying nearly double :eek: and STILL getting a refurb.

Now admittedly if I built my Dell to the Apple specs I'd be pushing close to the same price; but for what I need I can cut the price in half. and that's a sad:mad: admission for a long time :apple: fan.
 
Now admittedly if I built my Dell to the Apple specs I'd be pushing close to the same price; but for what I need I can cut the price in half. and that's a sad:mad: admission for a long time :apple: fan.

Sorry, but you really can't compare price if you aren't comparing specs.

Your looking for a machine that Apple doesn't make so your jumping to a different class of machine and complaining that it cost to much.

I ran the Dell configuration tool and tried to match the CPU, networking, bluetooth, etc and while I couldn't match everything, the price still came up close to the MBP. I understand your problem, but unfortunately the MBP is slotted as a "Pro" machine and has performance spec parts that drive the price up even if you don't need them.

But that being said, If the Dell fits your needs better get the Dell.

Cost, Quality, and Speed - Pick any two
 
You're missing the point -- It's not whether it is or is not legal, it's whether this site permits it in its Rules.
I understand the rules quite clearly and I completely agree with that part of the post. Rules are rules and even if they say I can't wear a yellow hat while posting, I know i can't do much about it.

I was replying to the other part where the poster tried to compare it to something that's actually illegal and would easily get MR in trouble, which is not the case with the issue we are discussing.
 
Cheapest refurb. with my top priority high-res screen (WUXGA or 1920 wide) was $2299 plus $349 for the 3 year extended warranty(AppleCare). (This is for my job) making $2650. Build your own Dell Vostro with the same screen res (my top priority) some parts reduced, a couple of parts better (dual drives - important when running multiple virtual PCs) and brand new; not refurb. $1088 + 3 year extended warranty at $299 = $1387.

I'm going to miss some of that extra hardware, and I'm really going to miss Mac OS but not as much as I'd miss the $1263 I was able to save by building to my needs.

$1263 cheaper means I'm paying nearly double :eek: and STILL getting a refurb.

Now admittedly if I built my Dell to the Apple specs I'd be pushing close to the same price; but for what I need I can cut the price in half. and that's a sad:mad: admission for a long time :apple: fan.

Agreed, not to mention that you could probably instal OS X on that Dell laptop pretty easy. Especially if you have a dual HD!
Great coice. :)
 
I don't see why anyone would want to install Mac OS X on a PC.

Blarrrgh...

*runs to nearest wastebasket and retches*

It is possible, but why would you want to?

Mac OS X requires quite advanced hardware (i.e. a newer computer) and supports only a small subset of built-in peripherals (i.e. those Apple use in their computers). Running Mac OS X on a non-Apple machine was always possible, even in PowerPC times, but never really useful (since nobody ever made faster machines than Apple themselves).

Running Mac OS X on a non-Apple computer would give you little advantage over running any other BSD or UNIX-like OS apart from the ability to run Macintosh applications, of which there are fewer than Windows applications.

The value of Mac OS X lies in the combination of UNIX and general purpose OS and supported hardware. Without one of the three, its value is not quite as clear.

If you want to experiment with operating systems, I recommend getting FreeBSD or Solaris. Both are easier to install than Mac OS X on non-supported hardware.

Alternatively, simply buy an actual Macintosh computer to see what Mac OS X is about.

Reading stuff like is hilarious, especially when I'm making this reply on my 2.4 GHz Core 2 Quad, 4 GB RAM, Geforce 8800GT, 660 GB HDD machine running Mac OS X I built for under $900.

In fact, the only line I consider noteworthy in these posts is:
The value of Mac OS X lies in the combination of UNIX and general purpose OS and supported hardware. Without one of the three, its value is not quite as clear.

Quite true. I do stuff like install Linux on my Nintendo DS for fun, so the challenge is fun for me. It took a lot of work to get this machine running stable- but now that it does, it works nearly seamlessly like a real Mac. But I don't want to undercut the issues I had to work out in the first week. I would *never* recommend this to a Mac first-timer.

The combination of Mac hardware and software is great. Hackintoshes are for the power users and tinkerers. However, those that bash them as worthless have no idea how mistaken they are. I'm a student with little money, and I've got a machine with performance of that of a low-end Mac Pro for less than the price of a low-end iMac.
 
Cheapest refurb. with my top priority high-res screen (WUXGA or 1920 wide) was $2299 plus $349 for the 3 year extended warranty(AppleCare). (This is for my job) making $2650. Build your own Dell Vostro with the same screen res (my top priority) some parts reduced, a couple of parts better (dual drives - important when running multiple virtual PCs) and brand new; not refurb. $1088 + 3 year extended warranty at $299 = $1387.

I'm going to miss some of that extra hardware, and I'm really going to miss Mac OS but not as much as I'd miss the $1263 I was able to save by building to my needs.

$1263 cheaper means I'm paying nearly double :eek: and STILL getting a refurb.

Now admittedly if I built my Dell to the Apple specs I'd be pushing close to the same price; but for what I need I can cut the price in half. and that's a sad:mad: admission for a long time :apple: fan.

An addendum to my post- I would NEVER create a Hackintosh laptop. Apple hardware is a must for the mobile. There are 10x more issues to worry about when it comes to a laptop, such as power management which is almost guaranteed to not work correctly, fan control, and OS X's sleep which is a common issue on most motherboards (I specifically picked one that has no issues, but you don't have that much flexibility for a laptop).
 
The combination of Mac hardware and software is great. Hackintoshes are for the power users and tinkerers. However, those that bash them as worthless have no idea how mistaken they are. I'm a student with little money, and I've got a machine with performance of that of a low-end Mac Pro for less than the price of a low-end iMac.

I wouldn't say it is even for power users, because that implies that you 'need' it to work. I would never run one as a primary machine just because if something goes wrong, it can take a long time to be back up and running. Hackintosh is more of a hobby. You can get it it work very well, but it takes a lot of research and time to get everything working right. But even then, updates need to be avoided. I ran one for a while and eventually came the conclusion that everything I hated about hackintosh (udates, stability...) wouldn't be an issue in a real Mac.
As for a high end machine like you describe, is that extra power for gaming or high end imaging and 3d design? If it's for gaming, you'll need to dual-boot into Windows to use it anyway, so why not just run Windows?
I know that this will offend some people here, but Vista is better then OS X running on a Hackintosh. You get better stability, driver support, feature support, update support and you wont need to dual boot for games ;).
 
I know that this will offend some people here, but Vista is better then OS X running on a Hackintosh. You get better stability, driver support, feature support, update support and you wont need to dual boot for games ;).

I haven't had one issue since the first week.

Further- did you use the Vanilla Kernel? Because theoretically I shouldn't have to worry about updates with that. Though I'll watch support forums before downloading updates just in case :)

I've got Vista installed on this Hackintosh, and prefer working in OS X far better.
 
It's really simple folks, and been stated already here.

The owner of MacRumors wants this site to be about real Macs and other apple products, not about Hackintosh.

If someone wants to discuss the merits of Hackintosh's or how-to, there is at least one really well known site that has a lot of great information on that area of interest. The place to go for info, and to discuss, is at that site, not this one.

If someone went to a offroad vehicle site asking about their Macintosh, I'd send them here. Same thing goes for Hackintosh's, go to the best site for the information.
 
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