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MeeMac

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The iPod Classic was important to Steve Jobs because the iPod Classic was built for a target audience that was important to Steve Jobs. That audience was the people who shared Steve’s love of music.

Steve Wozniak shared that love of music with Jobs. So now that Apple has phased out the iPod Classic; can Woz save the day?

What type of response could we expect if Woz shared Steve Job’s love of music by endorsing a limited edition iPod Classic?

Who would be interested in purchasing a limited edition, Apple Rainbow Logo Color Click Wheel, Jobs/Wozniak iPod Classic if Apple, released it?
:):apple:

Long Live MeeMac
 
i hope not! that would mean I've been hoarding and collecting all these classics for nothing! ;)
 
What type of response could we expect if Woz shared Steve Job’s love of music by endorsing a limited edition iPod Classic?

How can he? All of the IP for the iPod is owned by Apple, Woz had nothing to do with the iPod and he doesn’t have any legal ties with Apple. He cannot endorse anything since nobody but Apple can produce the iPod (and they don’t need Woz to do that.

Even if Was wanted Apple to produce a new iPod, his desires are hardly something that Apple cares about.

So, no Woz cannot save the iPod. He never had anything to do with it in the first place and he doesn’t have any influence at Apple and hasn’t for years. Furthermore there is not one iota of evidence that Woz has any desire to see the iPod classic. Last I heard he has an iPhone (along with other phones) and has never shown any opinion on the iPod Classic. The only entity that can save it is Apple and they don’t seem to be interested.

The whole OP is based on the following:

Steve Wozniak shared that love of music with Jobs
Which says nothing about the iPod. Heck, that doesn’t imply anything.
 
iPods are long gone, broh. iPhones have cannibalized them

The iPod of today is a different fella than its ancestor from 2001. Today, music is only one thing it does, it also makes phone calls, surfs the Internet, plays videos, takes pictures, plays games, gives directions, and much more! The days of one trick ponies is over, I used to be in the camp of having devices for each function. Now, I prefer to have as few devices as possible to cover the functions I'm looking for.
 
The iPod of today is a different fella than its ancestor from 2001. Today, music is only one thing it does, it also makes phone calls, surfs the Internet, plays videos, takes pictures, plays games, gives directions, and much more! The days of one trick ponies is over, I used to be in the camp of having devices for each function. Now, I prefer to have as few devices as possible to cover the functions I'm looking for.

There is nothing in Apple's current line up that could replace my 160GB iPod Classic if it packed in tomorrow. :(
 
The future is the cloud.

Totally,

The studios don't want you to own anything, pay per view or listen is the model.
That's why there are so many streaming services around. Some areas will be well behind others, but the majority of people have access to fast broadband and it's just not an issue.
 
Totally,

The studios don't want you to own anything, pay per view or listen is the model.
That's why there are so many streaming services around. Some areas will be well behind others, but the majority of people have access to fast broadband and it's just not an issue.

For proof, look at the 'alternatives to cable' over the internet. Hulu, NetFlix, and the rest are all at least 8 bucks a month, and since they don't have the same content, you have to 'subscribe' to several, and at 8 bucks a month, that's $96.00 a year EACH! And you can't record the content easily to be played back at your leisure.

They have us. Coming and going...
 
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Totally,

The studios don't want you to own anything, pay per view or listen is the model.
That's why there are so many streaming services around. Some areas will be well behind others, but the majority of people have access to fast broadband and it's just not an issue.

Really...? Then why all of your iDevices listed on your siggy are either 64GB or 128GB...? :rolleyes:
 
To be honest I don't really see 1) how Woz could save the iPod classic, and 2) why - even if he could do so - he would want to, or wish to do so.

And I write that as someone who is a massive fan of the self same iPod classic.
 
To be honest I don't really see 1) how Woz could save the iPod classic,

Well seeing that he doesn’t work for Apple at all much less in any senior management position, I would say that he most certainly not. He has a few friends at Apple but he’s really just a VIP at Apple event’s. They don’t go to him for actual consulting.


and 2) why - even if he could do so - he would want to, or wish to do so.

Yep. That is the second part. Woz hasn’t made any comments about the iPod Classic period. We know that he likes music, but so does other people. Heck, Apple employs tons of people who are musicians. If there is anybody who would be the ones to save the Classic, it would be these guys. Heck, Dr. Dre is a professional musician. He would be the guy since he probably has the ear of Tim Cook.

And I write that as someone who is a massive fan of the self same iPod classic.
I like the Classic too, but even I acknowledge that the device is not something that is needed any more.
 
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I like the Classic too, but even I acknowledge that the device is not something that is needed any more.

I disagree with the broad brush stroke sentiments of your sentence: To be honest, while I don't really see it as a mainstream device any longer, I do think there is a niche market - a rather demanding, and specialist - market of audiophiles and music lovers who do wish for such a device.

However, these individuals are the sort who want a high quality device that will play music, and only play music and will have sufficient capacity to carry your entire music library in one neat, nifty, device.

The problem is that Apple (for perfectly sound commercial reasons) age no wish to, or interest in, catering to the needs of this particular segment of the market. To them it is not especially remunerative, especially as their entire market model is headed off in a drastically different direction.

Now, strange to relate, that doesn't really matter, (unless the point at issue is one of whether one is carrying an Apple device, rather than a MP3 player designed and produced by a different company), and, from what I can see, a few specialist companies (Astell & Kell come to mind) are indeed doing that.

However, these devices are not Apple, and lack that ease of use that some of us have become used to. Moreover, they tend to come with a pretty hefty price tag.
 
Really...? Then why all of your iDevices listed on your siggy are either 64GB or 128GB...? :rolleyes:

One has no relation to the other..... Apple devices are not upgradable so its just a necessary evil. but there will be a mixture or hybrid. even if you consume from the cloud at times you need a temp place to store data for those offline moments. But this is where the entertainment industry is going, like it or not.

Most of the space (on my devices) is taken with apps and photo, so no point rolling you eyes like you now how i use my devices..
 
For proof, look at the 'alternatives to cable' over the internet. Hulu, NetFlix, and the rest are all at least 8 bucks a month, and since they don't have the same content, you have to 'subscribe' to several, and at 8 bucks a month, that's $96.00 a year EACH! And you can't record the content easily to be played back at your leisure.

They have us. Coming and going...

As opposed to paying 30+ a month for cable...
 
The Return Of Woz?

Even if Was wanted Apple to produce a new iPod, his desires are hardly something that Apple cares about.

Well Judd; maybe, just maybe; Apple sees value in bringing Woz back into the family; and the iPod Classic may be the perfect Apple device to begin that journey.

Because Steve Jobs Loved the iPod; and Steve Wozniak Loved Steve Jobs.
:):apple:
 
As opposed to paying 30+ a month for cable...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Right now my cable bill is around $210/mo (TimeWarner). That's with both my broadband and cable TV, I've been seriously pondering cutting out the TV and only paying for broadband and going to Hulu, Crunchyroll and Netflix.

My entertainment bill would drop to ~$80/mo.
 
Well Judd; maybe, just maybe; Apple sees value in bringing Woz back into the family; and the iPod Classic may be the perfect Apple device to begin that journey.

Because Steve Jobs Loved the iPod; and Steve Wozniak Loved Steve Jobs.
:):apple:

Fact is, Woz doesn’t want to be with Apple any longer. He hasn’t been involved with anything for years. If Woz wanted to be officially part of Apple, it wouldn’t be hard. He doesn’t since Woz wants to do his own things. There is no value in having an employee who doesn’t want to work with a company.

The classic is no more. Give it up. It is so out of date that there is no sane reason to keep it going.
 
As opposed to paying 30+ a month for cable...

But my heavily veiled point, apparently, was IT ADDS UP!

Nine bucks here, nine bucks there. But we have 'basic cable', and to axe all the cable, and add Hulu, HBO2GO, the channel with Scifi movies, with some of the other channels, we are over what we were paying (through the butt) for the medium mix at U-Verse. It adds up...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Right now my cable bill is around $210/mo (TimeWarner). That's with both my broadband and cable TV, I've been seriously pondering cutting out the TV and only paying for broadband and going to Hulu, Crunchyroll and Netflix.

My entertainment bill would drop to ~$80/mo.

So start agitating for Net Neutrality. The ONLY way those options are still usable is if the carrier that you choose for your internet service doesn't throttle your connection, or selectively throttle certain content.

Not having the same carrier for both internet and TV (not to mention telephone) service could get to be a very frustrating and possibly humiliating experience.

WRITE YOUR POLITICIANS AND TELL THEM NOT TO BLOCK THE FCC'S ATTEMPTS TO INSURE NET NEUTRALITY.
 
For proof, look at the 'alternatives to cable' over the internet. Hulu, NetFlix, and the rest are all at least 8 bucks a month, and since they don't have the same content, you have to 'subscribe' to several, and at 8 bucks a month, that's $96.00 a year EACH! And you can't record the content easily to be played back at your leisure.

They have us. Coming and going...

I pay a modest $9.95 per month for Unlimited Google Play Music. It's free to download all the music you like for offline listening.

Even better is unlike iTunes, My Google Play Music is readily accessible on all my computers smartphones and tablets. A big cross platform enthusiast, I've come to truly appreciate all the great benefits of Google's open ecosystem.

It's terrific to be able to go out to my car, drive to work or wherever, all without interrupting the artist I'm listening to.

Wozniak? He's busy enjoying life outside of Apple :)
 
Fact is, Woz doesn’t want to be with Apple any longer. He hasn’t been involved with anything for years. If Woz wanted to be officially part of Apple, it wouldn’t be hard. He doesn’t since Woz wants to do his own things. There is no value in having an employee who doesn’t want to work with a company.

The classic is no more. Give it up. It is so out of date that there is no sane reason to keep it going.

Woz is a nice guy, an even nice guys reach a limit. With all of the mind games and other crap that went on, I can see why Woz would say 'Thanks, but no thanks' to any role with 'the new Apple'.

It would be odd... It would be hard to want it. After all that happened. Sometimes stepping away is the best thing. Apple has to eventually move on from 'the founders'. Apple will sink, or swim on the choices that are made. You can't forget that Steve had a 'second coming', and literally saved Apple Computer from really bad, and entrenched management screw ups, and there were some real bad ones...

But, yeah, the 'Classic' is very much more than likely dead. I'd love a 256G Touch, Tim... *wink wink*

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It's terrific to be able to go out to my car, drive to work or wherever, all without interrupting the artist I'm listening to.

I have Sirius/XM in my home, and car. I hardly ever miss the same track from home to car. But I don't know how much is paid for Sirus/XM.

It has its limitations, but so does everything else.
 
But my heavily veiled point, apparently, was IT ADDS UP!

Nine bucks here, nine bucks there. But we have 'basic cable', and to axe all the cable, and add Hulu, HBO2GO, the channel with Scifi movies, with some of the other channels, we are over what we were paying (through the butt) for the medium mix at U-Verse. It adds up...



So start agitating for Net Neutrality. The ONLY way those options are still usable is if the carrier that you choose for your internet service doesn't throttle your connection, or selectively throttle certain content.

Not having the same carrier for both internet and TV (not to mention telephone) service could get to be a very frustrating and possibly humiliating experience.

WRITE YOUR POLITICIANS AND TELL THEM NOT TO BLOCK THE FCC'S ATTEMPTS TO INSURE NET NEUTRALITY.

Your basic cable plan has HBO?
 
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