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Other Can you successfully send an iMessage but have a recipient with an iPhone not receive it?
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People communicate in all kinds of ways, especially when it comes to mobile communication. How is it age or geography related or anything like that?
Literally everyone using an iPhone does. Very few people turn iMessage off or use alternatives.
Literally everybody uses 3rd party apps such as WhatsApp or Facebook messenger or Snapchat, whether iPhone or android users. No need for iMessages, they’re just not widely used anymore, similar to text messages
Literally I only started using what’s app for one group conversation, I hate Facebook messenger and haven’t downloaded Snapchat evar...literally. To respond to your comment earlier I posted that young people use iMessage more than all the other options...and the youth are not usually over 70...literally.
I guess geography is related because different regions of the world may favour different ways of communication, eg in the Chinese market WeChat is very widely used but in Europe it is not a thing. Age is relevant as well, as older people are more likely to cling to outdated methods of communication such as text messages
Those can certainly be interesting generalizations. That said, how does it being a text message or an iMessage or WeChat really affect things if the communication method gets the job done for those who use it?
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Yeah, literally far from everybody. People use whatever is convenient for them often without even really thinking much about what it actually is or anything like that.
Yes.
Half my family across four states uses an iPhone. They use AT&T, Verizon, TMo. It is not uncommon to have an iMessage say "Delivered" on the senders side and the recipient never sees it.
The other half uses an Android device. We get about the same number of failures between iPhones and Android phones.
Realize it is not an everyday thing but it does happen.
It really is a geography/cultural thing. I was just reading about it since this thread got me thinking, and it turns out that 3rd party messaging apps, especially Whatsapp, are pretty much all that people use for texting in many European, Asian, and South American countries. Suggested reasons for this include the far greater number of Android users and the fact that SMS is far more limited and costly in other parts of the world. I know that iMessage isn't SMS, but that's what it defaults to if you're messaging a non-iPhone user. For most of us in North America, the difference between that green bubble and a blue bubble doesn't mean much, but in many places people are still charged a small fee per SMS message and are subject to limited characters per message.
Another suggested reason is that (according to what I read), people in Europe and Asia are more likely to be messaging internationally, and international SMS messages are even more costly, so 3rd party messaging apps that work via wi-fi and data were adopted very quickly.
For me personally, my immediate family all live here in Canada and have iPhones, so we use iMessage exclusively, but my extended family lives in the Caribbean and all have Android phones (iPhones cost an arm and a leg down there!) and I message them with WhatsApp.
Another suggested reason is that (according to what I read), people in Europe and Asia are more likely to be messaging internationally, and international SMS messages are even more costly, so 3rd party messaging apps that work via wi-fi and data were adopted very quickly.
For me personally, my immediate family all live here in Canada and have iPhones, so we use iMessage exclusively, but my extended family lives in the Caribbean and all have Android phones (iPhones cost an arm and a leg down there!) and I message them with WhatsApp.
I’m literally wondering if @KOTN91 actually owns an iOS device at all. 
if someone ever tries to carry a convo with me on social media i stop replying..
you wanna talk? text/iMessage me.
whatsapp is installed only for poverty android users who i must have a group chat with.
Wow, lots of very butthurt people here. I think the fact remains that outside of North America, iMessage isn’t a thing or at the very most is barely a thing
Nothing to do with android or poor people. iPhones great in loads of ways, it’s just that the iMessage app (which indeed can reverts to sms) is obsolete and irrelevant
Actually I’ve used iOS devices since the 4. Back then in 2010 texting was the default way of contacting people. By the time iMessage came in with the 4S in 2011, the tide was already starting to turn and people were already starting to move towards 3rd party apps. By 2013 or 14 this transition was totally complete and the iMessage was as obsolete and irrelevant as a CD player or VHS
Ooh, get you... /s
Nothing to do with android or poor people. iPhones great in loads of ways, it’s just that the iMessage app (which indeed can reverts to sms) is obsolete and irrelevant
I’m literally wondering if @KOTN91 actually owns an iOS device at all.
Actually I’ve used iOS devices since the 4. Back then in 2010 texting was the default way of contacting people. By the time iMessage came in with the 4S in 2011, the tide was already starting to turn and people were already starting to move towards 3rd party apps. By 2013 or 14 this transition was totally complete and the iMessage was as obsolete and irrelevant as a CD player or VHS
Ooh, get you... /s
I guess I'm not as worldly refined but everyone I know used iMessage (many are outside the US too).
Simply people who commented on the original comment (and some subsequent ones) that didn't really make that much sense.
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That's a yikes.
Ok, I'll bite. Do you have any sources on this, or are you speaking from personal experience.
I'd be amazed if there is anything that can make this anything like a fact at all.
Yes, for example, if Cell Data is turned OFF and Wi-FI ON, often, in my case, I don't received texts until I turn ON Data. So if this person's settings were set as mentioned, it is possible they did not receive your first text.
* Stop relying on text as a medium of TRUST and SERIOUS CONVERSATION
* Text is/ was meant to be for brief communicae to facilitate in person LIFE stuff
* Do not LET your RELATIONS become so FRAGILE that you determine the TRUST & COMMUNICATION via something as insignificant (if you look at the scale of life) and infantile as a Text; I've had plenty of relations go SOUR due to this TEXTING addiction (because its never a CLEAR medium to communicate the TONE and VIBE - Tons of room for inaccurate PERCEPTION on RECEIVER's END vs INTENT of SENDERS.. thereby BIG DRAMA & misunderstanding)
* Text is/ was meant to be for brief communicae to facilitate in person LIFE stuff
* Do not LET your RELATIONS become so FRAGILE that you determine the TRUST & COMMUNICATION via something as insignificant (if you look at the scale of life) and infantile as a Text; I've had plenty of relations go SOUR due to this TEXTING addiction (because its never a CLEAR medium to communicate the TONE and VIBE - Tons of room for inaccurate PERCEPTION on RECEIVER's END vs INTENT of SENDERS.. thereby BIG DRAMA & misunderstanding)
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And the nature of the "mind" is to keep changing & fluctuating - even if someone feels X way 30 minutes back and behaves in Y way, and in 30 minutes feels Z way and behaves in B way... these are TRANSIENT FEELINGS & BEHAVIORS.
One has to look past such EVENTS and focus on GREATER DIRECTION, together versus EVENTS that will bring Ups & Downs in LIFE.
One has to look past such EVENTS and focus on GREATER DIRECTION, together versus EVENTS that will bring Ups & Downs in LIFE.