10-4, thanks. I assumed the script was all on the SSD drive and Carbon Copy would keep it all intact.
Maybe I should just try and see if it retains the OCLP.
Will post OCLP post, thank you.
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Maybe I should just try and see if it retains the OCLP.
Will post OCLP post, thank you.
That seems a good idea. You have nothing to lose (you will only be modifying the external drive) and will learn more about OCLP. What I think you will find:
After creating a bootable clone, you will need to boot it and install OCLP to the drive. Following that you may be able to update with CCC (not recreate bootable clone) without messing up the OCLP boot. And do it all again after every update to macOS.
CCC 6.1.9-b3 (7630) is now available — This is a pre-release update of CCC 6.1.8 (7612)
Specifically this update offers two fixes - Increased the timeout when removing snapshots to accommodate slower backup device and Worked around an esoteric FAT32 filesystem bug that was resulting in a file at the root level that could not be deleted.
- Changed
Fixed an errant trial expiration issue that eventually affects Pro License users that are using a license sidecar file. - Changed
Increased the timeout when removing snapshots to accommodate slower backup devices. - Changed
Worked around an esoteric FAT32 filesystem bug that was resulting in a file at the root level that could not be deleted. - Changed
Implemented a more effective solution for retrieving folder lists for cloud-synced folders that were added via the web or via another Mac. - Changed
Fixed a couple minor Voiceover issues relating to the volume attribute buttons that appear when a volume is selected in CCC's sidebar. These buttons reveal a popover, but Voiceover was failing to consistently read the content of those popovers. We also added a transparent dismissal button to that popover to make it more easily-dismissible via the Voiceover Control+Option+Space keystroke.
Specifically this update offers two fixes - Increased the timeout when removing snapshots to accommodate slower backup device and Worked around an esoteric FAT32 filesystem bug that was resulting in a file at the root level that could not be deleted.
Hi,
Was wondering if you could please elaborate and explain in detail the process? I currently have OCLP 1.30 and its corresponding root patches installed on 14.2.1. You mentioned reverting the root pratches? How do you do that?
Also after going from 14.2.0 to 14.2.1 I have to reinstall the root patches to gain stability and function of my macbook pro as barely anything worked without them. I could barely log in to the desktop. So wouldn't reverting be dangerous?
Furthermore what is a root patch exactly? Taking for granted the use of the term as I don't understand the process fully.
Looking for the easiest most simple way to clone my drive onto a usb stick for emergency use and then later onto a new Nvme disk thats coming in a few days.
Thanks
Thank you.
To revert root patches is an option of OCLP.
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Got it. The picture was worth a 1000 words.
Anyhow how can I be sure my disk error is not because the usb stick is defective? Tried SuperDuper and it gave an Ioctrl IO error. Is that because of root patches?
Thanks
It´s a long time since I don´t use Superduper. Best way is to try another drive. Also you can try "First Aid" in Disk Utility.
I think I just did something stupid.
I did a clone of my MBP 4,1 running Big Sur using CCC so I can do a clean install of macOS Sonoma using OpenCore Legacy Patcher.
I swear it said backup completed and then I double checked that my data was still there and since it was there and in tact, I proceeded to do a wipe and reinstall of macOS.
Little did I know that this asrdatavolume_12345 was not a complete backup.
My data is still there and is visible from /Volumes/asrdatavolume_12345 but Migration Assistant does not see this drive.
Is there a way to 'activate' it so to speak to have it be recognized as a known volume?
I did a clone of my MBP 4,1 running Big Sur using CCC so I can do a clean install of macOS Sonoma using OpenCore Legacy Patcher.
I swear it said backup completed and then I double checked that my data was still there and since it was there and in tact, I proceeded to do a wipe and reinstall of macOS.
Little did I know that this asrdatavolume_12345 was not a complete backup.
My data is still there and is visible from /Volumes/asrdatavolume_12345 but Migration Assistant does not see this drive.
Is there a way to 'activate' it so to speak to have it be recognized as a known volume?
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In fact, M1 ALWAYS boot from internal drive. Even if you think you are booting from an external, it´s not. It´s booting first from internal, then pass the booting to the external drive. And Yes, you can boot from a external drive, but it´s a little trcky, has no point, as you can´t delete the internal drive to clone again
By the way , never could boot from an USB drive, only by my thunderbolt drive HP P800.
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SO SORRY, sir. I did not see it. Can you send the link? Please, Apologize.Took you awhile to reply to my Jul 1, 2021 post?
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MacOS 12/13/14 - Carbon Copy Cloner 6 - Users Thread
So no you can't use CCC 6.0.2 to make a HDD bootable with 12.0b2 on a M1 Mac. Just use it with Migration Assistant in case something happens. Tested it under M1 Mac options, it just will boot a little then reboot again, third time it boots from the internal SSD asking if you want to report...
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BTW still don't use Thunderbolt SSD drives, but using multiple Samsung Portable SSD T7
Sorry, my friend. As you didn´t mention my name, I didn´t see it.MacOS 12/13/14 - Carbon Copy Cloner 6 - Users Thread
So no you can't use CCC 6.0.2 to make a HDD bootable with 12.0b2 on a M1 Mac. Just use it with Migration Assistant in case something happens. Tested it under M1 Mac options, it just will boot a little then reboot again, third time it boots from the internal SSD asking if you want to report...
BTW still don't use Thunderbolt SSD drives, but using multiple Samsung Portable SSD T7
One of the best thing of thunderbolt drives is how fast they are. 300GB in ten minutes,
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As I told youy, never could boot from an USB drive.MacOS 12/13/14 - Carbon Copy Cloner 6 - Users Thread
So no you can't use CCC 6.0.2 to make a HDD bootable with 12.0b2 on a M1 Mac. Just use it with Migration Assistant in case something happens. Tested it under M1 Mac options, it just will boot a little then reboot again, third time it boots from the internal SSD asking if you want to report...
BTW still don't use Thunderbolt SSD drives, but using multiple Samsung Portable SSD T7
It's just as fast on the USB-C T7, I do 235 GB back up in 8 mins, 4 secs, compared to your 299 GB backup in 10 mins, 21 secs. Mathematically they are near identical speeds.
Here you are. Booted fom external dive, clones with CCC.It's just as fast on the USB-C T7, I do 235 GB back up in 8 mins, 4 secs, compared to your 299 GB backup in 10 mins, 21 secs. Mathematically they are near identical speeds.
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CCC 6.1.9-b4 (7633) is now available — This is a pre-release update of CCC 6.1.8 (7612)
Specifically this update offers two changes - Addressed two conditions that could lead to delays when opening CCC or connecting to its helper tool and made an adjustment to how folder enumeration is approached on rotational destination volumes. This should result in fewer subtask hang events when enumerating high-file-count folders on these devices. This may yield faster or slower performance, or may not affect performance at all. If you notice a performance decline, please let us know by selecting "Report a Problem" from CCC's Help menu.
- Changed
Addressed two conditions that could lead to delays when opening CCC or connecting to its helper tool. - Changed
Made an adjustment to how folder enumeration is approached on rotational destination volumes. This should result in fewer subtask hang events when enumerating high-file-count folders on these devices. This may yield faster or slower performance, or may not affect performance at all. If you notice a performance decline, please let us know by selecting "Report a Problem" from CCC's Help menu. - Changed
Fixed an errant trial expiration issue that eventually affects Pro License users that are using a license sidecar file. - Changed
Increased the timeout when removing snapshots to accommodate slower backup devices. - Changed
Worked around an esoteric FAT32 filesystem bug that was resulting in a file at the root level that could not be deleted. - Changed
Implemented a more effective solution for retrieving folder lists for cloud-synced folders that were added via the web or via another Mac. - Changed
Fixed a couple minor Voiceover issues relating to the volume attribute buttons that appear when a volume is selected in CCC's sidebar. These buttons reveal a popover, but Voiceover was failing to consistently read the content of those popovers. We also added a transparent dismissal button to that popover to make it more easily-dismissible via the Voiceover Control+Option+Space keystroke.
Specifically this update offers two changes - Addressed two conditions that could lead to delays when opening CCC or connecting to its helper tool and made an adjustment to how folder enumeration is approached on rotational destination volumes. This should result in fewer subtask hang events when enumerating high-file-count folders on these devices. This may yield faster or slower performance, or may not affect performance at all. If you notice a performance decline, please let us know by selecting "Report a Problem" from CCC's Help menu.
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So is the answer no?
I ended up just creating an account with the same username as before and using ditto to clone over the data to user folder which works in a pinch, but I wanted the Migration Assistant to carry over all the other little things.
Some questions on restore from a CCC snapshot.
The relevant CCC documentations on CCC’s webpage are beyond my technical ability to understand. I would appreciate if someone would help me by answering my questions.
I have limited knowledge in computer and my understanding is that time machine (TM) when use with migration assistant (MA) can fully restore my mac to the state of the TM backup or snapshot. Also CC states that its backups can be used with MA, just like the TM’s backups. Thus restore achieved by TM+MA or CCC+MA becomes my standard to compare with other way of restore.
My macOS is Sonoma. The mac is being backup’ed by CCC6 and TM to an APFS external disk that is dedicated to the backup tasks. Many snapshots are created on the disk by both. (I also use AQR to backup to an external disk, but have never been able to use ARQ with MA for a full restore.)
Q1) When I used TM with MA, TM let me chose one of the many snapshots. However, when I used CCC with MA, CCC offered me no snapshot to choose from, even though I had many snapshots on the CCC external backup disk. This does not make sense to me. Did I use CCC correctly?
Q2) Is CCC restore from a snapshot is the same from using a CCC backup with Migration Assistant?
When I tried to restore from a snapshot by selecting “restore” on the snapshot, I got the following task filter screen.
Are the above default selections included all the folders in the Data Volume? That is restore with these selections is equivalent to using the same snapshot with Migration Assistant? If not, what selections will make them equivalent?
I noticed that the folders core, home and Systems are crossed out. I am confused because when I opened the CCC and TM backup volumes, they both have a folder called “System” (see screen sot below). Why did CCC cross out the “System” folder?
Also for the Source Options and the Destination Options on the right hand side, are the default options correct to create a full Data Volume restore?
Q3) At one time, on the Time Machine backup, I saw a folder “_CCCSafetyNet “ and it occupied up 107GB of disk space and was alarmed. I don’t know how it got into the TM backup. Is it safe to delete it?
Thank you for your help.
The relevant CCC documentations on CCC’s webpage are beyond my technical ability to understand. I would appreciate if someone would help me by answering my questions.
I have limited knowledge in computer and my understanding is that time machine (TM) when use with migration assistant (MA) can fully restore my mac to the state of the TM backup or snapshot. Also CC states that its backups can be used with MA, just like the TM’s backups. Thus restore achieved by TM+MA or CCC+MA becomes my standard to compare with other way of restore.
My macOS is Sonoma. The mac is being backup’ed by CCC6 and TM to an APFS external disk that is dedicated to the backup tasks. Many snapshots are created on the disk by both. (I also use AQR to backup to an external disk, but have never been able to use ARQ with MA for a full restore.)
Q1) When I used TM with MA, TM let me chose one of the many snapshots. However, when I used CCC with MA, CCC offered me no snapshot to choose from, even though I had many snapshots on the CCC external backup disk. This does not make sense to me. Did I use CCC correctly?
Q2) Is CCC restore from a snapshot is the same from using a CCC backup with Migration Assistant?
When I tried to restore from a snapshot by selecting “restore” on the snapshot, I got the following task filter screen.
Are the above default selections included all the folders in the Data Volume? That is restore with these selections is equivalent to using the same snapshot with Migration Assistant? If not, what selections will make them equivalent?
I noticed that the folders core, home and Systems are crossed out. I am confused because when I opened the CCC and TM backup volumes, they both have a folder called “System” (see screen sot below). Why did CCC cross out the “System” folder?
Also for the Source Options and the Destination Options on the right hand side, are the default options correct to create a full Data Volume restore?
Q3) At one time, on the Time Machine backup, I saw a folder “_CCCSafetyNet “ and it occupied up 107GB of disk space and was alarmed. I don’t know how it got into the TM backup. Is it safe to delete it?
Thank you for your help.