I use the beta. There ARE more overlays used, but they render the nav useless. And if you answer the call it still goes full screen mode. Please consider requesting the split screen feature. Thanks!
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Carplay = Dangerous?
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I wouldn't call the change dangerous, but it most certainly is annoying. There are a lot of people using Carplay and the ability of a car to natively support it (and Android auto) has actually affected car sales so I think if it was actually dangerous the DOT (if in U.S.) would have already been on it just like what was it playing games and streaming in the Tesla.
Exactly. Thank you.
Are you saying that when you are traveling to a specific destination (store, restaurant, hospital, etc) that you have not visited previously that you do not take a minute before you leave to figure out where you are going? Take 5 minutes and review the detailed location on maps and have a clue.
With the exception of driving off a non-existent bridge or something of that magnitude, there is no reason to be completely flummoxed when you miss a turn or a navigation... if you miss a turn, pull over and re-evaluate your position/situation, or continue on and let the navigation re-route you to your destination.
This is another example of the dumbing down of the populace - the absolute dependence on technology to the point that you actually cannot function in life without it.
I’m running iOS 17 beta 5 and incoming calls and outgoing calls still take up the full screen. You need to take your eyes off the road and tap either the maps icon or split screen button on the CarPlay display to regain the navigation view.
This is a completely unnecessary and avoidable distraction — as the app can easily default to the existing split screen view for incoming or outgoing phone calls. I have followed the OP suggestion to submit a request via Feedback Assistant but so far have received no acknowledgement.
I guess you’ve never been in the situation of using CarPlay in an unfamiliar area, in dense traffic, trying to figure out if your next turn is the upcoming street or the one 20 feet later — only to receive a call from the person you’re driving to meet and having the map suddenly disappear exactly when you need it.
This is not a made up situation and it happens frequently for many people. It is dangerous and you are fortunate if you’ve not experienced the stress it causes when it occurs. 🙏🏽
Well said @robgreene. It is distracting, dangerous and stressful.
If you are driving somewhere and you feel that losing navigation is dangerous you should definitely not be answering the phone.... But as much as I understand that taking a wrong turn can be annoying there is noting dangerous about it.
The problem is that the incoming call notification overrides the navigation screen — whether you answer the call or not. When this happens at exactly the moment that you need the navigation, it is dangerous and stressful.
If you use CarPlay and drive in unfamiliar areas with dense traffic, you are one incoming call away from understanding why the current distracting UX is indeed dangerous. Enjoy your idyllic certainty while you can.
The only way to avoid that distraction currently is to put your iPhone on do not disturb while you are driving. A better solution is for CarPlay to default to the existing split screen view for all phone calls.
It is not dangerous no matter how often you say it..... If driving somewhere where you do not know the way, and that is stressful to you, you should have looked at a map before going so you at least know in general where to go.
You could also pull over and look at the map again to see where to go and when you cancel the call your audio of the navigation resumes and so there shouldn't be a problem since you are driving in a dense place and don't know where to go so your eyes should be on the road at all times anyway.
And no a split screen would not be better for driving safety as people with this stress problem will be taking calls and be even more of a danger to the rest of us. I agree that split screen would be a good feature but the whole idea that loosing ones navigation is dangerous is just ludicrous.
That's why Apple offers a DND and a Driving focus as options... if the OP is that easily distracted, or that concerned about his navigation disappearing mid-route, then he should turn on DND or use the driving focus. If being interrupted mid-route is a concern for him (or anyone), then eliminate the distractions...
Failing that, he can continue to complain about how unsafe it is, despite easy and free remedies offered by Apple.
Thank you for mentioning this. I didn’t realize you could set a driving focus up. Now I won’t have to deal with phone calls or notifications while driving.
Seriously, must you resort to twisting the words of people trying to have an honest conversation in order to try and win an argument?
I’m neither an easily distracted nor easily stressed-out person and I suspect the OP isn’t either. We’ve just both had enough experiences with the CarPlay UI/Workflow to spot what is definitely a UX flaw that has compromised driving safety in certain circumstances.
The OP created this thread for one reason: to spotlight the issue and request community support in bringing the issue to Apple’s attention. Nothing more.
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Apparently this is a major issue for you as well, as you stated that you are not easily stressed-out, but then agreed that the situation IS stressful... but there's a remedy, and it's both simple and straight-forward.
I meant to demean no one... simply stating facts... there are ways around the OP's stressful/dangerous situation already in place.
Again, and I am really not sure why this is so hard to understand, there is nothing dangerous here. The whole premise of this thread is to indicate that carplay is dangerous (when receiving a call) and it simply is not.
The words you use to describe me and dwfaust seem to apply to yourself very well... maybe use a mirror before starting to accuse people of hijacking a thread.
I have. I continue driving with the traffic and pull over when safe.
Or decline the call if I’m that distracted.
If it is so dangerous for you to be called while navigating. Set the phone to dnd and don’t accept calls
I don’t really care about the argument in this thread but I do really want to see some kind of source or statistic for how many people are impacted and how much the increase in risk goes up
Great question. I live in a large metroplex. I live on one half of the metroplex, but often have to travel to the other half of the metroplex (an hour+ away) for work assignments - rarely in the same location. I could spend an hour looking at it on maps, but when you get to the heavy-traffic downtown areas on the other side of the metroplex, no amount of pre-trip map-gazing can prepare you for what's about to come your way.
If that doesn't fit your use case, no worries. But I've had it happen on numerous occasions, and missing a turn in this area has cost as much as 15 minutes of rerouting, given the road patterns and traffic.
In this case, the solution is simple. Turn off the phone/text interface (DND or Focus) and let the navigation lead you without (fear of) interruption.
A worthy solution in some cases, yes. But this would eliminate clients from contacting, which is typically who's calling in those cases. I believe maps should trump phone on a car display at all times in terms of screen priority. If you don't agree, that's ok, but it doesn't make my suggestion invalid.
It may not be the answer you want, but it solved the issue of a "dangerous" situation.
I agree, that does create a solution for the inherent risk. At the same, my original post did not come from a lack of workarounds, but from a belief that there should not need to be any workarounds... that this is how the feature should function, and if enough of us as ask Apple for it through their feedback channels, it can become a reality.
So it sounds like you rely on a simple tool to help navigate traffic way to much.... instead of it just being there to help you are expecting it to be there every step of the way?! But you are the driver and you should be able to drive and navigate traffic. Period, that's it... You are responsible for what you do in and with your car.
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You're correct that each driver is responsible for what happens inside our vehicle. In your mind, does that make it unreasonable to submit a feature request to Apple, asking for their technology to be updated in a way could make our driving experience safer?
Fwiw. I don’t think your suggestion is invalid. It can be annoying. I simply disagree that it’s dangerous.
Are you looking at the road or navigation? Looking at navigation map is more dangerous than looking at the street, and missing a turn.The car play announces the turn even if you are listening to music or on calls.