CES 2022: Withings Unveils New 'Body Scan' Smart Scale

[jooish]

Do you accept almost all of the above isn’t quite as simple as you make it out to be? Like factually you’re correct but there’s a big gulf between being correct and being rooted in the real world.

When there's a will, there's a way. I can't force people to tackle their bad habits... they have to want to do that on their own. The best one can do is help provide the information necessary to make it possible... The rest is on them.

I won't pretend the "real world" for those willing to make the effort is less valid than the "real world" of people that won't to appease your feelings.

 

[dysamoria]

I can appreciate that. Over 1 in 10 Americans are diabetic and over 42% are obese. About 66% of Americans are on prescription medication. My question is to what extent has poor food choices contributed to the need of prescription medication in the first place. Eating poorly will 100% effect your ability to sleep, negative thoughts, etc.

People need to get back to their roots and eat meats, organs, eggs, fruits, raw honey and raw dairy. Less time on their computers & phones, stop watching the news, more time in the sun, more moving around, and spending time with like minded non-toxic individuals that aren't under the spell of mass formation psychosis.

The massive consumption of vegetable oils, seed oils, soy and refined sugar is what has changed society the most in the past decades. If you're overweight and struggling to get down to size, just cut out sugar and carbs completely. Your body will start burning fat as fuel, and you will also have cleaner and longer lasting energy. Then once you reach your goal you can slowly reintroduce healthy low toxicity carbs. I'm not a doctor or nutritionist, but this is common knowledge amongst people that have personal experience with that advice.

What’s wrong with soy? It’s been present in other cultures for ages without the same obesity epidemic being present. The presence of American fast food and junk foods seems to correlate with the increase in obesity in non-US cultures. We exported industrialized food and now seem to export obesity.

I'm with you on the sugar problem. We didn’t evolve to tolerate the super availability of the substance, so we consume it like crazy, but a huge part of the problem is the so-called free market that pushes sugar into every goddamned food product.

People really need to eat less processed food and more nuts & vegetables (especially raw). But:

Poverty (and having one’s time dominated by trying to make an income) controls what kinds of foods many people can buy on a regular basis (fresh, raw, unprocessed etc. foods cost more, for smaller portions, and don’t store as well). Stress & depression (and likely pollution) affects cravings & metabolism, even without psych drugs being in the mix.

There’s no single cause of the obesity epidemic, leaving room for everyone’s pet hypothesis (and opportunistic diet fad marketing); the “calories math” answer is overly simplistic, IMO. It’s a perfect mess to avoid systemically addressing any single element while constantly blaming another (like passing blame onto individuals for what they are effectively forced to eat).

 

[dysamoria]

When there's a will, there's a way. I can't force people to tackle their bad habits... they have to want to do that on their own. The best one can do is help provide the information necessary to make it possible... The rest is on them.

I won't pretend the "real world" for those willing to make the effort is less valid than the "real world" of people that won't to appease your feelings.

Have you considered that your choice to believe that everyone can change things via their own agency, and blaming them for “bad habits”, is you appeasing your own feelings?

 

[danny842003]

When there's a will, there's a way. I can't force people to tackle their bad habits... they have to want to do that on their own. The best one can do is help provide the information necessary to make it possible... The rest is on them.

I won't pretend the "real world" for those willing to make the effort is less valid than the "real world" of people that won't to appease your feelings.

So you’re choosing to not be grounded in reality then.
I don’t know why you think I’m offended or my feelings are hurt it’s a bit weird.

 

[jooish]

Have you considered that your choice to believe that everyone can change things via their own agency, and blaming them for “bad habits”, is you appeasing your own feelings?

Have you considered that allowing people to blame society for their individual choices is appeasing to your own feelings? There are countless ways to avoid eating junk while having limited time and budget... Just head over to r/frugal or r/mealprep.

Being poor isn't just about time or money, either... it's also education. With the right information even the financially poor can see a massive improvement in their overall health and size. Being poor isn't new, but the massive increase in health issues we've been seeing in the past decades is.

I have direct experience with being poor and still eating healthy enough that I didn't need a $300 scale, or any scale at all.

Eating vegetables and nuts doesn't make you healthy, nor are they necessary to be healthy. Many foods are promoted as healthy that are loaded with natural defense chemicals that are disruptive to your digestive system, cause inflammation, etc. Not only that, monocrop farming is way worse for the environment and completely unsustainable.

The unpopular opinion is that eating poorly is more expensive than eating healthy... whether it be directly or indirectly. People also have access to more assistance programs than ever... from free or discounted health care, to discounted utilities, to food.

So you’re choosing to not be grounded in reality then.
I don’t know why you think I’m offended or my feelings are hurt it’s a bit weird.

It would appear that [to you] being grounded in reality means that only poor people eat unhealthy foods and only poor people are relevant to the discussion of eating healthy.

Your contribution has been to say eating that healthy doesn't make you a good person when I never claimed it did, indirectly calling me dim-witted and favoring realities all while simultaneously providing zero benefit to readers.

I'm done here.

 

[dysamoria]

Have you considered that allowing people to blame society for their individual choices is appeasing to your own feelings? There are countless ways to avoid eating junk while having limited time and budget... Just head over to r/frugal or r/mealprep.

Being poor isn't just about time or money, either... it's also education. With the right information even the financially poor can see a massive improvement in their overall health and size. Being poor isn't new, but the massive increase in health issues we've been seeing in the past decades is.

I have direct experience with being poor and still eating healthy enough that I didn't need a $300 scale, or any scale at all.

Eating vegetables and nuts doesn't make you healthy, nor are they necessary to be healthy. Many foods are promoted as healthy that are loaded with natural defense chemicals that are disruptive to your digestive system, cause inflammation, etc. Not only that, monocrop farming is way worse for the environment and completely unsustainable.

The unpopular opinion is that eating poorly is more expensive than eating healthy... whether it be directly or indirectly. People also have access to more assistance programs than ever... from free or discounted health care, to discounted utilities, to food.

Lack of quality education is very closely correlated to poverty.

Eating poorly IS expensive, but it’s not the kind of expense that can be seen up front nor managed by people poorly informed as to what is and is not healthy.

Blaming society for its toxicity is absolutely a reasonable course of action. It’s simply a social faux pas in the USA to do so, because the key tactic of evading systemic accountability is to blame individuals for what their culture, economic & social systems make of them when they don’t have the privilege of being born into the right family or massive luck.

We do not live in a meritocracy.

 

[TonyMark9]

That is cool. A smart scale is a must-have in your house. Even if you don't think it is necessary, you can change your mind after buying it. I also bought a new smart bathroom scale, and I don't skip a day without measuring my weight and other health indicators. A smart scale also can track your progress and record everything on your phone.

 

[SalisburySam]

That is cool. A smart scale is a must-have in your house. Even if you don't think it is necessary, you can change your mind after buying it. I also bought a new smart bathroom scale, and I don't skip a day without measuring my weight and other health indicators. A smart scale also can track your progress and record everything on your phone.

Have to disagree here. I’ve had a Withings smart scale for many years, earlier version obviously, and found it a nice convenience, nothing more, and certainly unnecessary. Looking in the mirror, checking the tightness of clothing, having an honest discussion with my very significant other, considering how I feel, all are far better metrics of weight than what a scale can tell me. Any of those are also what I would be watching my weight for anyway, not to hit some magic number. Now, insurance companies on the other hand, whooo boy! Gimme them numbers.

 

[TwoBytes]

Bumping to ask if anyone bought one of these and if it's been worth it, any bugs, any other scales comparable?

 

[PhoenixDown]

Bumping to ask if anyone bought one of these and if it's been worth it, any bugs, any other scales comparable?

I have the Body+ (which I think is an older version of the Body Comp) and its been great. The metrics are pretty close to what I've seen on Dexa scans. Is it life altering? Not really, my weight doesn't fluxuate much but its been interesting to see weight gain and loss after a week of skiing and general trends around fat loss vs muscle gain over time as I work out. To @SalisburySam's point - its nothing I don't see in the mirror but its fun to have the numbers to align with it.

 

[compwiz1202]

Damn the scale cost as much as an Apple Watch

I thought the same except that it was close to an SE price.

 

[name99]

Bumping to ask if anyone bought one of these and if it's been worth it, any bugs, any other scales comparable?

I've use three different brands (mine and friends). They're all much of a muchness.

And they ALL suck in one very particular way...
Every brand I have ever encountered (in real life or ads) connects to the phone via Bluetooth, not WiFi, and via a very particular version of Bluetooth that only communicates with the scale's app.

What's wrong with that, you say? What's wrong is that it means that the way you have to use these scales is your phone has to be close to the scale, and you have to unlock it and start the app just before or during the weighing process...
Now, I don't know about you but in my circle
- we keep the scale in the bathroom
- we do NOT charge our phones in the bathroom
- and our hands are frequently wet at the point where we are about weigh ourselves

So every aspect of this design is utterly idiotic! You think IoT hardware is bad, but smart scales have them beat in terms of truly stupid designs that are NEVER actually used at home by the people selling this stuff.
What I want is a scale that (I don't care about the details) is able to send the weight/health info directly from the scale to the phone without me having to do anything on the phone. And until that is achieved, I'll continue to use my existing "smart" scale, but I sure as hell won't buy another one, or recommend one to anyone else.

 

[dysamoria]

I've use three different brands (mine and friends). They're all much of a muchness.

And they ALL suck in one very particular way...
Every brand I have ever encountered (in real life or ads) connects to the phone via Bluetooth, not WiFi, and via a very particular version of Bluetooth that only communicates with the scale's app.

What's wrong with that, you say? What's wrong is that it means that the way you have to use these scales is your phone has to be close to the scale, and you have to unlock it and start the app just before or during the weighing process...
Now, I don't know about you but in my circle
- we keep the scale in the bathroom
- we do NOT charge our phones in the bathroom
- and our hands are frequently wet at the point where we are about weigh ourselves

So every aspect of this design is utterly idiotic! You think IoT hardware is bad, but smart scales have them beat in terms of truly stupid designs that are NEVER actually used at home by the people selling this stuff.
What I want is a scale that (I don't care about the details) is able to send the weight/health info directly from the scale to the phone without me having to do anything on the phone. And until that is achieved, I'll continue to use my existing "smart" scale, but I sure as hell won't buy another one, or recommend one to anyone else.

Neither of these replies have answered the question asked.

And yes, the proprietary Bluetooth & app combination scales are problems. I received one as a gift from my GF. It’s appreciated and it saves me time manually entering values into the Health app, but it nags and wants to sell me more stuff when we already bought something from them.

It’s the same problem we see at epidemic levels in the tech industry: Every company wants to data-mine their own customers for MORE MONEY.

It’s not enough to sell a product. In fact, that seems like an undesirable requirement to these corporations to make money. If they could eliminate the products entirely (and eliminate a need for employees), and just tax people for the privilege of living in the same universe as these corporations, I’m sure they would do so.

 

[ct2k7]

Bumping to ask if anyone bought one of these and if it's been worth it, any bugs, any other scales comparable?

I have it.

it’s more reliable at getting weight, but the body fat percent is not accurate, unless I’m really 3%… I’ve talked with support and they’re adamant it’s correct.

 

[dysamoria]

I have it.

it’s more reliable at getting weight, but the body fat percent is not accurate, unless I’m really 3%… I’ve talked with support and they’re adamant it’s correct.

Thanks for sharing your experience with it.