Other Charge iPhone daily?

[unrigestered]

i personally don't think it makes that much of a difference how you handle it, if you simply try to keep the battery within the recommended 20-80% for the most part and don't leave it at 100% or 0% for days.

all approaches have their pros and cons, but in the end, it is about the amount of (full) charge cycles.
and 4-5 small charges in short intervals to reach a full cycle should accumulate to more or less equal the strain of one single 0-100% charge.
if you are always just charging 20-40, or even 60% to always stay within 20 and 80%, you will simply charge more often than someone who always goes from 100% to zero and back.
But the actual full battery life time should be more or less the same, but the 100% to zero person might actually get more screen time per day, while the 80/20 person might have to watch the power consumption and charge more often.
The actual strain to the battery should actually not differ between these two approaches, as long as you don't constantly leave your battery at/near full charge, or "empty"

at least that's my take on it

 

[antiprotest]

I am one of those who indulges in those 'painful' habits, and as previously stated, my launch 12 Pro still reporting 100% health is all the evidence I need to believe that it works. Whether or not anyone cares is of course another matter 👍

It's your device. If you think it's worth the trouble then go for it.

As you might know, the battery starts at above 100%, maybe something like 104%. The gauge is relative, not absolute. So your battery has been degrading. But 100% after all this time still looks pretty good.

 

[Madhatter32]

I charge at least twice daily. I know, I know ....

 

[unrigestered]

i usually charge every other day, sometimes every third if the battery allows.
But i'm one of those 100% to 4-8% and back people.

at least on my new iPhone.
On my old phone i had to recharge daily, but that battery was 12 years old already

 

[MacCheetah3]

Contiguous 0-100% cycles is the very quickest way to kill an iPhone.

False.

FYI, extreme heat will kill a battery far quicker than any other factor — well, beyond a short circuit.

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Calibration status doesn’t affect the health of the battery and can be performed on demand without issue if the need arises.

Correct.

I am not sure whether I am some battery whisperer or whether the painful habits suggested by others are myths and unnecessary.

This:

Static charges do seem to be the enemy of calibration, no matter the actual charge level. For a fully mobile device where the ebb and flow of power is constantly flowing through the battery I don't think it's necessary at all except maybe as a corrective measure in the event of issues 👍

all approaches have their pros and cons, but in the end, it is about the amount of (full) charge cycles.
and 4-5 small charges in short intervals to reach a full cycle should accumulate to more or less equal the strain of one single 0-100% charge.
if you are always just charging 20-40, or even 60% to always stay within 20 and 80%, you will simply charge more often than someone who always goes from 100% to zero and back.
But the actual full battery life time should be more or less the same, but the 100% to zero person might actually get more screen time per day, while the 80/20 person might have to watch the power consumption and charge more often.
The actual strain to the battery should actually not differ between these two approaches, as long as you don't constantly leave your battery at/near full charge, or "empty"

 

[Jim Lahey]

False.

FYI, extreme heat will kill a battery far quicker than any other factor — well, beyond a short circuit.

A good point well made.

 

[Radeon962]

I just plug it in at night and off in the morning. Lasts me the day with typically quite a bit to spare. Still in a 12 PM as I did not see anything worth upgrading to on the 13. 14 is looking much the same so may be the first time ever I skip more than one year.

Battery is at 82% so May just have Apple replace the battery and go with it for another year.

 

[The1Biz]

I just plug it in at night and off in the morning. Lasts me the day with typically quite a bit to spare. Still in a 12 PM as I did not see anything worth upgrading to on the 13. 14 is looking much the same so may be the first time ever I skip more than one year.

Battery is at 82% so May just have Apple replace the battery and go with it for another year.

Yeah I don't get all the crazy routines and so forth.
I plug it in at night, unplug in the morning when I leave.

After 3 years my phone is fine. I've done this with every phone since the 3g with no issue.

 

[jumpingjackflash]

I have allways used ”optimized charging” feature on my iOS devices since iOS 13. It should be a nice feature. On my old iphone 6s+, that was on itˋs second battery, it has been plugged in a lot over the years, so it mostly stays at 100%, not at 20%-80% like it supposed to. I lately didnˋt care about it until yesterday, when the battery got swollen and allmost caused an accident. I got a bit scared also. After recovering from this incident, I went and bought an iphone 13, instead of still using the still perfectly good for me 6S+. But I guess this is exactly what Apple wants also. For me, it allmost cost a serious accident if the battery was cought on fire.

I am genuinely sad that Apple doesn´t take this seriously enough IMO. For example why doesnˋt Apple allow to bypass the battery completely and let the battery cool and ”rest” at ~50% when plugged in for a longer periods? Why dont they allow to smart-charge between the 20/80 sweetspot? They claim to care about the enviroment and safety and all, but I think itˋs their secondary or third priority.

I know I was really lucky. But Im now worried about people with their older devices/batteries. I am also now worried about the future when my M1 pro and iPhone 13 gets old. This is not a something Apple should just simply continue to ignore. This IS a safety issue and I learned it the hard way.

 

[EnigmaticZee]

Launch day iPhone 13 Pro charged overnight every night using the old 5w brick, 100% battery health. Always done the same with all my iPhones and never had a single issue with premature battery life. Last years iPhone 12 mini that my wife now has is still on 100% and she listens to music on it all day and again, charges overnight with the 5w charger.

I think the key is charging with a slow charger. I noticed when I started using fast charger, my battery deteriorated quite quickly. Just a thought from my personal experience.

 

[Digger148]

Every 2 to 5 days. It all depends on whether or not I want to carry my phone or even power it up on any particular day.

 

[OhMyMy]

I think the key is charging with a slow charger. I noticed when I started using fast charger, my battery deteriorated quite quickly. Just a thought from my personal experience.

The reason fast chargers deteriorate batteries faster is due to the heat generated. The higher wattage per se wouldn’t have any significant impact on the battery health.
In most cases the use of fast chargers should be fine as the devices are only designed to fast charge till it reaches 50% and the generated heat would be within the threshold as long as you don’t use your device during the process.

But if you absolutely want to maximize the battery life then you need to stick to lower wattage chargers. For some the convenience of fast charging outweighs the $69 Apple charges for a replacement while for the rest every bit helps.

 

[EnigmaticZee]

The reason fast chargers deteriorate batteries faster is due to the heat generated. The higher wattage per se wouldn’t have any significant impact on the battery health.
In most cases the use of fast chargers should be fine as the devices are only designed to fast charge till it reaches 50% and the generated heat would be within the threshold as long as you don’t use your device during the process.

But if you absolutely want to maximize the battery life then you need to stick to lower wattage chargers. For some the convenience of fast charging outweighs the $69 Apple charges for a replacement while for the rest every bit helps.

Hmm never had heated phone and never and always a cool room temperature so don't know what went wrong.

 

[Raymund]

One more interesting thing about batteries. I have a 5 Watt original Apple charger. The iPhone 13 Pro comes with a USB C lightning cable. Now, if I plug this cable with a USB A - USB C adapter into the 5 watt apple charger, I don't get the stable 5 watt charge (5V*1A), but the voltage and current is constantly jumping (example; 4.94 V 1.2 A and 5V 1.0A almost every second.) In contrast, if I put the 5 watt apple charger into the standard USB A end lightning cable, the voltage and current are precisely constant, no jumping between the two values every second.

I ask myself, what effect does this have on the batteries, can it harm them in the long run?

 

[Tsepz]

I know as soon as you bring up battery you will get battery experts saying the complete opposite of each other but curious how many people put their phone on the charger every night regardless if they have 1% left or 80%

I definitely do, I will never allow the battery health number to dictate my charging habit of nightly charges, lol.
If I am going to bed my phone is going on the charger and will only get off it when I get up be it 3am if I find myself suddenly having insomnia after a bad dream or at 10am when I choose to wake up late on a Saturday morning.

 

[Allyance]

Every night it goes on a wireless charger next to the bed. Sometimes I recharge around dinner time if it has been a heavy use day. I use the Apple magsafe charger in my living room.

 

[Momof2.1107]

Launch day iPhone 12 Pro Max charged every night with the 5W brick, and any other time I need to charge it. My battery is 84%.

 

[Solomani]

I charge my 13 mini every night. I have a smart outlet that turns off the charger when the phone reaches 100%. My launch day battery is 100%

Hopefully in the very near future, ALL charger blocks/bricks (not just the outlet itself) are smart enough to realize that the device they are charging is already at 100%, so the charger brick needs to have auto shut off. Is this asking for too much? After all, we are close to flying cars and discovering warp drive, right?

 

[jumpingjackflash]

Hopefully in the very near future, ALL charger blocks/bricks (not just the outlet itself) are smart enough to realize that the device they are charging is already at 100%, so the charger brick needs to have auto shut off. Is this asking for too much? After all, we are close to flying cars and discovering warp drive, right?

Do we need that? For example the iPhone has the battery managment system built inside which controls the charge with hardware and software. It would be not that hard to make let the battery rest at ~50% and bypass the battery when plugged in for a longer times.

People are not using and charging their devices like they did 10-15 years ago, and Apple ahould do something about it if they really cared about their customers or the enviroment.

 

[one more]

I do charge mine every single night with Apple’s vintage 5W charger. My 17 months old 12 mini now shows 84% battery capacity and the Coconut Battery measures it at 87%.

 

[one more]

Do we need that? For example the iPhone has the battery managment system built inside which controls the charge with hardware and software. It would be not that hard to make let the battery rest at ~50% and bypass the battery when plugged in for a longer times.

People are not using and charging their devices like they did 10-15 years ago, and Apple ahould do something about it if they really cared about their customers or the enviroment.

Well, Apple’s optimised charging is meant to take care of that, especially during the prolonged charging periods, like at nights.

 

[jumpingjackflash]

Yes, but does their optimized charging really work? From my experience it does not.

By the way at their own website, first they advice people to turn off Location Service to improve battery life:

• You can optimize your battery life by turning off Location Services for the app. Turn off in Settings > Privacy > Location Services.

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But then, for the Optimized Charging to actually work, they advice you to turn Location Services back on:

”Optimized charging is designed to engage only in locations where you spend the most time, such as your home and place of work. The feature doesn't engage when your usage habits are more variable, such as when you travel. Because of this, some location settings must be enabled for Optimized Battery Charging to activate. None of the location information used for this feature is sent to Apple.

Here are a list of settings that must be enabled:

• Settings > Privacy > Location Services > Location Services.
• Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services > System Customization.
• Settings > Privacy > Location Services > System Services > Significant Locations > Significant Locations.”

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This just doesn´t make any sense at all.

 

[legomite]

I cycle 65-15, once/day, 5W charger, running an automated custom optimization (shortcut+smartplugs), set to charge in the morning (while sleeping, or during B’fast/surf/bathroom routine). 2.8yo XR is arguably still worthy of Apple’s 16hr SOT spec.

66% for 6 hours? 🤯 I don’t remember getting that kind of SOT with XR even on launch day for 100%, what iOS version are you running, what’s your battery health & what kind of apps are you running? I’m impressed.

Here’s mine, iOS 15.4.1, mostly use Safari, 84% battery health, my SOT used to be like 4.5-5.5 hours in its prime on an earlier iOS version

 

[Raymund]

66% for 6 hours? 🤯 I don’t remember getting that kind of SOT with XR even on launch day for 100%, what iOS version are you running, what’s your battery health & what kind of apps are you running? I’m impressed.

Here’s mine, iOS 15.4.1, mostly use Safari, 84% battery health, my SOT used to be like 4.5-5.5 hours in its prime on an earlier iOS version

Your stock photos app is a battery hog!

 

[babyexercise]

I know as soon as you bring up battery you will get battery experts saying the complete opposite of each other but curious how many people put their phone on the charger every night regardless if they have 1% left or 80%

It is much better for your battery health to never be below around 40%, even charge to 100% first then use it to make it below 90% within a day would not hurt your phone battery. So the convenient way is always charge to 100% whenever possible.