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I very much doubt the OP shot his pictures with an extreme wide angle lens.
Even if the shots were done with a shortish lens, they would refer to a real life viewing position.
My MBP C2D, 15 " looks almost as awful as those images in real life.
Brought it back to the store, took it back home because the replacement was equally bad.
Noone in the store disagreed, maybe due to it being a pro photo supplier.
Back to the OP's screen, very obvious is the bright edge at the bottom, and the very restricted viewing angle.
The Images also suggest there are the dark strips on both sides.
I own an ancient TiBook, worked with numerous powerbooks I have never seen it that bad. The TiBooks display looks like a plain sheet of grey paper in comparison to the MBP ( I even took images of both from different angles ).
Needless to say all those laptop displays aren't as good as my ACD or even my poor 20" G5 iMac, but usually they are more or less evenly lit and have a usable viewing angle.
My MBP, and the one posted here do not fall into the cathegory, I really don't think that is a matter of opinion.
Whether or not somebody is happy with a product like this, that's subjective, though, each his own, none of my business.
I don't know what kind of lens he used (he might not even know; I have no idea of the focal length on my camera phone), but his photo looks considerably better than my 11mm photo, so it should not be surprising if his effective focal length was considerably more than 11mm. The amount of barrel distortion in his photo shows it was quite short however. My photo was a demonstration of the inability to judge someone's screen by a photograph, when there was some inference here that anyone who could call his screen decent must be an idiot, just based on his photo.
I can't quite buy that without question. If he used a camera phone for example, the lens is probably only a quarter inch across, if that. We have two eyes which help compensate for each other. So if our left eye sees the right side of the screen as a bit darker, and our right eye sees the left side of the screen as a bit darker, then our brains will see an evenly lit screen. I submit that no photograph of a screen using any technology reflects reality, though it could approach reality if you're careful with your photography.
Erm nature gave us two eyes for depth perception, not to compensate for manufacturers' cheap monitors. If you keep doing that over extended periods of time you will get a headache, plain and simple.
Are you telling me if you wear a red colored lens over your right eye and a blue coloured lens over your left you will see a purple colored world? Bzzt. Our brains don't work like that.
Well, we evolved two eyes facing forward because depth perception is an advantage for us, but that certainly doesn't mean it doesn't have other benefits, does it?
No, I'm not saying you'll see a purple colored world in your scenario. I said you'll could see an evenly illuminated screen even if each eye is seeing uneven illumination. Color and luminance are not the same thing.
Well if painful eyes and headaches are your cup of tea, suit yourself.
I just raised this issue with sjobs@apple.com and got a reply saying that their senior engineers are looking into it, but if anyone else is affected by this same issue and wishes to add more credence to this matter, I suggest you guys drop him an email as well.
As an interesting side note. I emailed Steve Jobs and also sent a letter regarding my poor experience with Apple laptops this year, especially the poor quality of displays. Within two days I had the most amazing and overwhelmingly positive response from the local Apple Store, as well as from Apple executive relations. It IS worthwhile and also very useful to let them know what is going on and what the problems are. ESPECIALLY from professionals who work seriously with these machines and who can't afford to have poor displays or other issues that impede their work.
The fact that they emailed you back to let you know that there are senior engineers looking into it is a very good sign. They actually told me that that was what they were going to do last week - send the information to their engineers for review. It seems they are actually doing that. I must say that their response to my letter was the best service I've ever received anywhere. Very impressed.
OK. You weren't able to give me evidence of laptop manufacturers who have screens which have the same illumination at 0° and 45°, so how about you tell me the number of headaches and painful eye incidents I've had since buying my MacBook Pro.
You're calling them issues like its only his screen that has them. I'm sure nearly all of the screens have very close to the same specifications. I know they're not perfect but come on you can use it for as long as you like without any problems. It'll take some getting used to, however.
I don't know, but I will gladly gorge out your eyeballs and brain to transplant onto my dog's head so he can tell me.
Geez, what kind of stupid question is that supposed to be, you may very well happen to have a better screen, or your eyes are better. Different people are just different.
That email address in in my experience, a %magic% solution to all your support woes! A family member recently purchased a refurbished Mac to switch over after much pushing, and it had some issue that resulted in its wireless connection dropping every now and then. Took it to the closest service centre and it was returned the next day unfixed because they "couldn't replicate the problem". After an email was addressed to good ole Steve, the Asia-Pacific executive replied back saying she would look into the issue, and told us to bring the machine back to the service centre again, saying she will speak with the manager there personally. This time round they suddenly "found the problem" and will fix it now (which they still failed to do). Another email and a replacement machine was issued.
All within the space of 2 weeks. Replacement machine didn't have any problems which proved that it was indeed the previous system's fault.
If not for their help we'd probably still be fighting with that ass backwards service centre. In a sense at least I am glad Apple still takes customer concerns seriously, try doing the same for companies like Acer, doubt it will get you very far.
Well, you did claim to know about my painful eyes and headaches, so I figured you must be telling the truth, that's all, and wondered if you can back that up with evidence, since you couldn't back up your first assertion with evidence.
Anyway, my initial assertion is that just because someone posted photos of a screen that shows uneven illumination does not mean that person is crazy or in denial. Photos of a screen can look uneven even if the screen is fine.
You would gladly gorge out my eyes? I'll state for the record that would not want any harm to come to you from mine or anyone else's hands.
While you would certainly be kept alive for the sake of your brain, what makes you think you will even be conscious to start with?
You wanted a debate, you got a debate.
No, actually I wanted evidence, and instead received debate and threats of violence.
.. same here - I just cant work on MBP for a longish time - its better when Im sitting away from MBP but whats the point of having a laptop then? Anyway - hopefully issue will be sorted somehow soon.
iW00t - do you think that If Apple change the screen or display coating or whatever you will be able to get a replacement?
Resurrected pixels
I have a brand new 2.2 ghz 15" glossy MBP, and I had a group of 4 dead or stuck (not sure which) pixels show up on day 15.
Apple has agreed to replace my notebook, but now I am not sure what to do since they've just healed 2 days later. Weird. I'm not sure exactly when they healed themselves, but it may have been when I cleaned the screen, so maybe the massage worked. I could use one of those massages myself... 
Should I just keep it now, or carry on with the replacement? Any thoughts?
BTW - I do find the glossy to have quite noticeable glare in sunlight, but angle adjustment usually takes care of it. I did not compare it to the matte in person, and had considered exchanging for the matte with the replacement, but I think I am going to stick with the glossy. Pictures and videos just pop, and everyone who sees it says "wow, nice screen."
I have a brand new 2.2 ghz 15" glossy MBP, and I had a group of 4 dead or stuck (not sure which) pixels show up on day 15.
Apple has agreed to replace my notebook, but now I am not sure what to do since they've just healed 2 days later. Weird. I'm not sure exactly when they healed themselves, but it may have been when I cleaned the screen, so maybe the massage worked. I could use one of those massages myself... Should I just keep it now, or carry on with the replacement? Any thoughts?
BTW - I do find the glossy to have quite noticeable glare in sunlight, but angle adjustment usually takes care of it. I did not compare it to the matte in person, and had considered exchanging for the matte with the replacement, but I think I am going to stick with the glossy. Pictures and videos just pop, and everyone who sees it says "wow, nice screen."
I'm so glad someone finally said this! I think it's really ridiculous that people are talking about the terrible quality of someones screen who simply posted pictures of it. Without sitting down in front of it you really can't say. If you have one, that's a different issue (although only slightly, just cause yours might have issues doesn't mean that someone elses does) but claiming someones screen is awful due to a picture, give me a break. And then talking about just because he's not unhappy with it doesn't mean it doesn't suck... most likely he's not unhappy with it because he's sitting in front of it and you're judging by a photograph.
Update...
So I went ahead and got the replacement - which Apple processed without difficulty (though it did take a couple weeks) Unfortunately, it has done the same thing a couple times, though the pixels were not stuck for more than a few hours each time. However now I have battery issues... check my other posts for that.
I have a brand new 2.2 ghz 15" glossy MBP, and I had a group of 4 dead or stuck (not sure which) pixels show up on day 15.
Should I just keep it now, or carry on with the replacement? Any thoughts?
BTW - I do find the glossy to have quite noticeable glare in sunlight, but angle adjustment usually takes care of it. I did not compare it to the matte in person, and had considered exchanging for the matte with the replacement, but I think I am going to stick with the glossy. Pictures and videos just pop, and everyone who sees it says "wow, nice screen."
So I went ahead and got the replacement - which Apple processed without difficulty
(though it did take a couple weeks) Unfortunately, it has done the same thing a couple times, though the pixels were not stuck for more than a few hours each time. However now I have battery issues... check my other posts for that. So I went ahead and got the replacement - which Apple processed without difficulty
Out of the frying pan and into the fire, eh? It's a shame Apple's still churning out rotten computers. When you get a replacement, the replacement's supposed to work, not come with its own host of bugs.