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maflynn

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But weren't they always #1? I mean the only competition is the Amazon fire stick (or what ever its called) or are they including stuff like the apple tv?
 

Mildredop

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But weren't they always #1? I mean the only competition is the Amazon fire stick (or what ever its called) or are they including stuff like the apple tv?

By clicking on the link the OP posted, you can find that out.
 

mi7chy

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Oct 24, 2014
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Blown away more and more by Chromecast. Testing the very simple to use Popcorn Time from Thinkpad Helix2 and thought for sure I would need to buy a micro-HDMI cable to stream 1080p but it handles it perfectly relaying from internet to Chromecast over 802.11n without a hiccup and the quality is amazing just like local blu-ray. Best $35 purchase. All it needs now is Chromecast 2 version with 5GHz 802.11ac and 4K support.
 
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maflynn

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May 3, 2009
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Well, there is this part of the article...

"which determined that the Chromecast was the No. 1 selling streaming device in the U.S. in 2014"


*Updated the title for clarity

Yeah, your title implied that it was about the stick, and while the article did say device, I wasn't entire sure it was including other products :)
 

Lloydbm41

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Oct 17, 2013
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I have all the streaming devices (except for the Roku stick) and the Amazon Fire TV box is the best IMO. Couple that with a Chromecast and you have the ultimate combo.
 

Mildredop

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I did, and it didn't say.

The very first words are:

"Chromecast is now the No. 1 streaming device in the U.S."

Considering the Apple TV is a streaming device one would deduce it was included in the research.

There's nothing worse on forums than people who make comment on something without first reading it fully.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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hmm, I wonder if this actually means the best selling. It seems they are looking at devices streaming to it. Considering pretty much any phone can stream to it, and is required to stream skews the data. For example, a family of 4 could all stream to the chromecast which counts as 4 people. That same family could own and appleTV which only counts as 1.
 

MasterRyu2011

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I have all the streaming devices (except for the Roku stick) and the Amazon Fire TV box is the best IMO. Couple that with a Chromecast and you have the ultimate combo.


I also have and like the Amazon stick. I like how it can play games and such. However, you are required to have a valid Amazon account with a credit on file to download/use any app on the stick, even the free ones.

Unless I'm missing some option, I think that's a dealbreaker for me. I like with Chromecast, you don't have to have any type of account to cast.
 

AFEPPL

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Help me out here....

Its a PIA device, i bought one thinking it would fill the gaps missed by my ATVs, but i found it to be close to useless. The only part i like about it in addition to its size is how you hand off the connection from your iPad/laptop and don't need to leave a device on in the middle.

Streaming is all it can do however, so its really a one trick pony.
Shame people like sky don't have an app and let you use your subscription as part of multi room or something like that.

So i'm not sure why its number one.
if its supported DNLA like the ruko, and was still at the same price..maybe
I'd take the Ruko first, then ATV and wouldn't bother with CC as its too limiting when using a home NAS. (no i don't want to set up plex)
 

MasterRyu2011

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Help me out here....

Its a PIA device, i bought one thinking it would fill the gaps missed by my ATVs, but i found it to be close to useless. The only part i like about it in addition to its size is how you hand off the connection from your iPad/laptop and don't need to leave a device on in the middle.

Streaming is all it can do however, so its really a one trick pony.
Shame people like sky don't have an app and let you use your subscription as part of multi room or something like that.

So i'm not sure why its number one.
if its supported DNLA like the ruko, and was still at the same price..maybe
I'd take the Ruko first, then ATV and wouldn't bother with CC as its too limiting when using a home NAS. (no i don't want to set up plex)

It's Number 1 because for most people and most of their use cases, it's much more convenient and more cost-effective. Why should I buy an Apple TV to stream Netflix if the Chromecast can do it for less. How many tricks this pony has is arguable, but I would think for the vast majority it's mostly Netflix and youtube.

Also, the convenience of being to able to stream to any Chromecast on your iPhone or Android device is really a big pro. I have friends come over and we're watching TV, and then someone goes "ooh..you guys should see this video" and BAM it's on the TV automatically (even the HDMI input is changed). Then someone else goes "my video is better, let me show you" and BAM it changes.

You can't do that with Apple TV and I don't think Roku (I could be wrong)
 

mKTank

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It's Number 1 because for most people and most of their use cases, it's much more convenient and more cost-effective. Why should I buy an Apple TV to stream Netflix if the Chromecast can do it for less. How many tricks this pony has is arguable, but I would think for the vast majority it's mostly Netflix and youtube.

Also, the convenience of being to able to stream to any Chromecast on your iPhone or Android device is really a big pro. I have friends come over and we're watching TV, and then someone goes "ooh..you guys should see this video" and BAM it's on the TV automatically (even the HDMI input is changed). Then someone else goes "my video is better, let me show you" and BAM it changes.

You can't do that with Apple TV and I don't think Roku (I could be wrong)

So you've never heard of AirPlay then...
 

MasterRyu2011

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So you've never heard of AirPlay then...

Of course, everyone knows about Airplay. I'm talking about being to stream from iOS, MAC, Android, and Window PCs. I have friends who have both Android and iPhones. So a Chromecast would allow of them to play nicely. Apple TV wouldn't without buying extra software and leveraging clunky 3rd party solutions.

Plus, if you wanted to use Peer-to-Peer Airplay, it only works on Apple TV 3 and iOS8 devices.
 
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JoEw

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Nov 29, 2009
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The FireTV stick is the best on the market. I returned my chromecast promptly for it and never regretted it for a second.

The ATV is 99 vs 30ish for these streaming sticks so that is a factor. But I can see why the ATV isn't that attractive, other than airplay you are getting less apps & support than other cheaper solutions.

Roku's are overrated.
 

mKTank

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Of course, everyone knows about Airplay. I'm talking about being to stream from iOS, MAC, Android, and Window PCs. I have friends who have both Android and iPhones. So a Chromecast would allow of them to play nicely. Apple TV wouldn't without buying extra software and leveraging clunky 3rd party solutions.

Plus, if you wanted to use Peer-to-Peer Airplay, it only works on Apple TV 3 and iOS8 devices.

How is chromecast better for that? You only get it for like YouTube on iPhone. On Android there's Streambels which is excellent for streaming to Apple TV.
 

AFEPPL

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Sep 30, 2014
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Of course, everyone knows about Airplay. I'm talking about being to stream from iOS, MAC, Android, and Window PCs. I have friends who have both Android and iPhones. So a Chromecast would allow of them to play nicely. Apple TV wouldn't without buying extra software and leveraging clunky 3rd party solutions.

Plus, if you wanted to use Peer-to-Peer Airplay, it only works on Apple TV 3 and iOS8 devices.

For your use case, I'm sure it's OK. Outside the US though the adoption of Netflix is much less. We have other stuff thats not available on the device. Also i have a huge library of Blurays and DVDs that are on a NAS drive, the ATV solution works much better for my use case. Ultimately all the solutions are missing something, thats the real shame about the apple closed box ATV.

Im not trying to bah the chrome, but i do think its very limited due to the apps. I bought one to try and bridge what the atv doesn't allow you to do, but it just doesn't. Internet streaming, yeah, Digital home, not really.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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I have all the streaming devices (except for the Roku stick) and the Amazon Fire TV box is the best IMO. Couple that with a Chromecast and you have the ultimate combo.

I have the Amazon Fire TV Stick and Chromecast.

My only complaints are: The Fire Stick sucks at mirroring, while Chromecast is flawless at it. Chromecast can sometimes be finicky with your device detecting it, but that happens rarely. I'm also waiting for an next gen Chromcast with 5ghz Wifi.
 

MasterRyu2011

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For your use case, I'm sure it's OK. Outside the US though the adoption of Netflix is much less. We have other stuff thats not available on the device. Also i have a huge library of Blurays and DVDs that are on a NAS drive, the ATV solution works much better for my use case. Ultimately all the solutions are missing something, thats the real shame about the apple closed box ATV.

Im not trying to bah the chrome, but i do think its very limited due to the apps. I bought one to try and bridge what the atv doesn't allow you to do, but it just doesn't. Internet streaming, yeah, Digital home, not really.

Gotcha. Keep in mind that this discussion is about Chromecast being the best selling streaming device in the US, so Netflix very much applies. I don't know how the Chromecast is doing internationally.

But yeah, everyone has their use cases. I still argue that for the majority in the US, the Netflix US case is valid. I think you and other streaming aficionados on this site are more of the exception. There is nothing wrong with it :)
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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For your use case, I'm sure it's OK. Outside the US though the adoption of Netflix is much less. We have other stuff thats not available on the device. Also i have a huge library of Blurays and DVDs that are on a NAS drive, the ATV solution works much better for my use case. Ultimately all the solutions are missing something, thats the real shame about the apple closed box ATV.

Im not trying to bah the chrome, but i do think its very limited due to the apps. I bought one to try and bridge what the atv doesn't allow you to do, but it just doesn't. Internet streaming, yeah, Digital home, not really.

I believe plex on chromecast will suit your usecase if plex can run on your NAS.

personally I use my windows desktop as the host to play local files via plex on chromecast

for me the main weaknesses of the ccast are no airplay, no prime video, and no sideloading apps (which is really more for some niche stuff)

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I have the Amazon Fire TV Stick and Chromecast.

My only complaints are: The Fire Stick sucks at mirroring, while Chromecast is flawless at it. Chromecast can sometimes be finicky with your device detecting it, but that happens rarely. I'm also waiting for an next gen Chromcast with 5ghz Wifi.

ive been curious how the firetv stick does with mirroring, I have good experiences mirroring via android with the chromecast.

still planning on getting a firetv stick next time they go on sale. Im curious if I could get the brighthouse tv app running on it to avoid paying for additional cable boxes in the guest rooms (and get more channels to boot). Think I may have to pair a bluetooth keyboard or something, because I hear the remote cannot work in touch based apps.

my dream device would mirror from both android and ios, I think only the rasberrypi has managed that
 
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AFEPPL

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I believe plex on chromecast will suit your usecase if plex can run on your NAS.

personally I use my windows desktop as the host to play local files via plex on chromecast

for me the main weaknesses of the ccast are no airplay, no prime video, and no sideloading apps (which is really more for some niche stuff)



That's the point i was making, i don't want a 3rd device in the middle.
You are just streaming everything twice, the device (all of them) should be able to talk to a NAS service and go direct. I might as well just use iTunes homesharing linked to a NAS library, rather than PLEX (which is what i do).

DNLA is like the perfect solution, the client is built into devices such as TV and the NAS drive runs DNLA server and you just select what you want. Why can't i just load or install a DNLA app on the ATV or Chromecast? My frustration is all the devices are simply too closed/controlled to do anything other than their own eco system.
 

gotluck

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Dec 8, 2011
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That's the point i was making, i don't want a 3rd device in the middle.
You are just streaming everything twice, the device (all of them) should be able to talk to a NAS service and go direct. I might as well just use iTunes homesharing linked to a NAS library, rather than PLEX (which is what i do).

DNLA is like the perfect solution, the client is built into devices such as TV and the NAS drive runs DNLA server and you just select what you want. Why can't i just load or install a DNLA app on the ATV or Chromecast? My frustration is all the devices are simply too closed/controlled to do anything other than their own eco system.

if plex can run on your NAS I dont believe there is a third device. It goes from NAS to ccast with the phone only acting as the remote. I think I'm missing something here

am I wrong in thinking plex essentially = dnla server?

I agree with your sentiment though, I'd rather have one device that can do everything
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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ive been curious how the firetv stick does with mirroring, I have good experiences mirroring via android with the chromecast.

still planning on getting a firetv stick next time they go on sale. Im curious if I could get the brighthouse tv app running on it to avoid paying for additional cable boxes in the guest rooms (and get more channels to boot). Think I may have to pair a bluetooth keyboard or something, because I hear the remote cannot work in touch based apps.

my dream device would mirror from both android and ios, I think only the rasberrypi has managed that

Sideloading apps on the Fire TV stick is hit or miss, but mostly miss. I sideloaded the TWC TV app on it, but it would fail when loading. As far as the mirroring goes, it always out of ratio like it's zoomed in a little, which cuts off a small portion of the display edges. And it also lags. Not unbearable lag, but very noticable. Other than that, the Fire TV stick is very impressive.
 
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