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Cities affected by EDGE upgrade! 200kbps!

I just did the test and I got 1113kbit/sec...roughly 139kbyte/s!!!

Sad EDGE is that damn slow for yall....and yall pay so much more for it. Why? I just don't get it. I pay 15 bucks for my sweet EVDO on sprint. That score was with 3 of 4 bars. I guess I just don't understand why people pay more for something so slow. AT&T should not be charging what they do for EDGE access. Yall are getting 200-300kbit/s tops? 25-38kbytes/s? Man....thats rough.

The iPhone still looks like a kick ass phone, just delivered through a half ____ medium.
 
mac jones said:
I'm sorry but this looks to me like mass hysteria.

Mind you, Mass Hysteria usually afflics schoolgirls.

A fascinating phenomena often attributed to the Salem Witch trials.
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"Afflic" is not a word.
"Phenomena" is plural.
Mass hysteria is not "attributed" to an example of it.

Learn to ride your high horse before you straddle it.
 
This is all well and great, but unless AAPL enables tethering of your computer to the phone, you only get to enjoy those speeds on the iPhone itself?
 
mac jones said:
I'm sorry but this looks to me like mass hysteria.

Mind you, Mass Hysteria usually afflicts schoolgirls.

A fascinating phenomenon often attributed to the Salem Witch trials.
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More like mass enthusiasm :) Hell, I'm sitting in Yurop, and I'm still enthusiastic about the iPhone despite not getting it for... well, I dunno ;)
 
feel a bit sorry for you guys that liver in an 3rd world country like the US, here i Sweden we will be able to surf in 7.2Mbits, when the Iphone arrives (3.6Mbits for now)

But good that you will be able to load webpages without 1-2 minutes loading time.
 
RnSK said:
...between GPRS and EDGE, right?

I mean, I've been using EDGE for a looooong time and its always been at least 20Kbytes/sec...

I think a lot of the problem may have been crap phones (I do not buy crap phones) that didn't hop right or could use at least four slots/slices because you guys are acting like this is all...new :)

I've been saying all along that EDGE is a LOT faster than dialup, and on ATT, slightly less than than half their WCDMA 3G speed...but noooo...

:)

Keep in mind tho that webpages are multiple round trips, and there is latency...so don't let yer speedtests get you *too* happy; you'll want to surf around on the web for a more accurate feel for what its going to be like.

Most of where I go I get to in about 15-22seconds on average
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This man needs his post stickied. Seriously, I think a lot of the problems are that people have lower class EDGE devices that aren't capable of high speeds. So they're actually on GPRS when they think they're on EDGE.

But I guess we'll know for sure tomorrow night when the first reports come in of EDGE speed.
 
kresh said:
For Apple I think it has more to do with the fact that TMobile is not really a national carrier. Sure you can roam all over the US, but they don't have local numbers nationwide.
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That would probably be a deal breaker for Apple, however one thing T-Mobile brings is WiFi hotspots (I know AT&T's probably working on this, but nothing has been mentioned in terms of bundling). T-Mobile has around 10,000 WiFi hotspots in the US. So it would have been a good fit for the iPhone to provide a combined cellular/WiFi service package.
 
Tonight, many forum members here and at Howard forums have reported that their EDGE network speeds may have been boosted substantially -- with benchmarks around 200kbps (25 Kilobytes/second).
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This is a huge pet peeve of mine. All internet transfer methods that I'm aware of (and probably all common network methods) are serial. Serial means one bit is transfered, then the next, then the next. So the only proper way to count internet transfer speed is in bits per time period. kilobits, megabits, etc, are all fine as multipliers of the bit. But any conversion to bytes is confusing and misleading for many technical and non-technical reasons. Bytes are not transferred over serial protocols. Bits are. Same is true for USB, Firewire, ethernet, SATA... all serial protocols.

Parallel protocols, on the other hand, are a different story. They transfer by the byte (all bits of that byte in parallel, thus the name). One byte, then the next byte, then the next byte. IDE hard drive interfaces are parallel, so bytes only please (or kilo, mega...). Old Centronics parallel printer connections, same thing.

You can't simply divide bits by 8 to get bytes in transmission speeds. In most serial data transmissions there are overhead bits for error checking and other purposes. In parallel methods, sometimes those extra bits come as part of the same transmission byte, sometimes in a separate periodic byte.

To get smaller numbers, you denominate the bits - kilobits, megabits, gigabits... Or if bytes, then kilobytes, megabytes... Or if standards warrant, denominate the time period - milliseconds, minutes, etc.

And to make sure this isn't deemed totally off-topic, I'd love to see a web site that tracked data transfer speeds for iPhone users in different parts of the country. Run a test, then enter your zip code (or even street address, as larger zip codes can have multiple towers). Some fancy math could then be used to determine both real-world throughbit (in bits, ahem) along with areas that are in need of AT&T upgrades.
 
Gawd, they had to somewhat fix one of my biggest reasons for not getting one right after I decide to spend my extra money on something else. Which I don't feel THAT bad for I guess.... but damn it, having an iPhone wouldn't seem so bad now, lol.
 
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iWizzard said:
feel a bit sorry for you guys that liver in an 3rd world country like the US, here i Sweden we will be able to surf in 7.2Mbits, when the Ip, phone arrives (3.6Mbits for now)

But good that you will be able to load webpages without 1-2 minutes loading time.
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I think we should avoid this kind of language. We all know that the cell phone market in the US is about 10 years behind and overall horrible. But I would by no means call the US a 3rd world country.

Here in Europe you go shopping in the supermarket and they treat you with kicks in the butt from the very moment you walk inn. You can't even use a cart without leaving a coin deposit. Does that make us a 3rd world union? Not quite, but more so than having primitive cell phones.

But those examples are beyond the point. I am an European using Apple computers which are designed in California. I am grateful to them for that. Fortunately, they don't export their phone companies and we only have to deal with them if we go as tourists.
 
I'm paying $10/month for 768 DSL (AT&T)

The new reported speeds are about half of what I'm seeing so in the upgraded areas EDGE can be roughly as fast as 384 DSL.

And as for Wi-Fi hotspots, $2/month gets AT&T DSL customers access to Wi-Fi in over 6000 McDonalds nationwide.

Wonder if any such add-ons will be available for iPhone customers?

Somebody needs to figure out how to tether the iPhone (via USB or Bluetooth)

eddietr said:
Actually, he's probably right. 300kbps for $20 DSL sounds about right. I think around here they have a 384kbps DSL option.

300kB/s would be 3mbps, which is actually quite fast for DSL, isn't it? Especially at $20.

EDIT: Never mind what I just said. I see now that $20-$30 will get you 3mbps speeds on DSL. Shows you how much I kept up with DSL rates over the years. Of course, I'll stick to my 30mbps FIOS. :)
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So tell us..

slimsakus said:
I just did the test and I got 1113kbit/sec...roughly 139kbyte/s!!!

Sad EDGE is that damn slow for yall....and yall pay so much more for it. Why? I just don't get it. I pay 15 bucks for my sweet EVDO on sprint. That score was with 3 of 4 bars. I guess I just don't understand why people pay more for something so slow. AT&T should not be charging what they do for EDGE access. Yall are getting 200-300kbit/s tops? 25-38kbytes/s? Man....thats rough.

The iPhone still looks like a kick ass phone, just delivered through a half ____ medium.
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Okay, tell us how your EVDO compares on your phone to when you use WIFI. You use it more with WIFI right? :p
 
Thanks for your maturity and common sense. Bashing other countries is only done to elevate our own. Nobody a nowhere is perfect :)

princigalli said:
I think we should avoid this kind of language. We all know that the cell phone market in the US is about 10 years behind and overall horrible. But I would by no means call the US a 3rd world country.

Here in Europe you go shopping in the supermarket and they treat you with kicks in the butt from the very moment you walk inn. You can't even use a cart without leaving a coin deposit. Does that make us a 3rd world union? Not quite, but more so than having primitive cell phones.

But those examples are beyond the point. I am an European using Apple computers which are designed in California. I am grateful to them for that. Fortunately, they don't export their phone companies and we only have to deal with them if we go as tourists.
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slimsakus said:
I just did the test and I got 1113kbit/sec...roughly 139kbyte/s!!!

Sad EDGE is that damn slow for yall....and yall pay so much more for it. Why? I just don't get it. I pay 15 bucks for my sweet EVDO on sprint. That score was with 3 of 4 bars. I guess I just don't understand why people pay more for something so slow. AT&T should not be charging what they do for EDGE access. Yall are getting 200-300kbit/s tops? 25-38kbytes/s? Man....thats rough.

The iPhone still looks like a kick ass phone, just delivered through a half ____ medium.
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You make it sound like EDGE is all AT&T has; AT&T also does have a 3G network (UMTS/HSPDA).

When they release iPhones with 3G, it will be able to use those.

Either way, in case you haven't been paying attention, Sprint has been draining customers left and right, and the Nextel acquisition has been disastrous for them; cheap data plans is one of the few things they seem to be getting right.

-Zadillo
 
Btw, I ran the dslreports/mspeed tests, and am not noticing any specific increases in speed. It's ranged from 50kbps to 87kbps or so, the same numbers I've generally always gotten. This is on a Treo 650 in Northern Virginia.
 
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