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krashx7

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IMO the iphone just looks and feels like a more premium device. I know there are some phones out there now that are made out of aluminum and run android but they still dont look as good to me.

Also does android have an imessage equivalant? Everyone I know uses imessage so I was able to drop texting from plan all together which was nice.
 

kis

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Also does android have an imessage equivalant? Everyone I know uses imessage so I was able to drop texting from plan all together which was nice.


I'd say about 80% of the world's mobile phone customers use hangouts and / or whatsapp . Just because your friends use iOS doesn't mean everyone else does, too. I don't use iMessage because literally nobody I know has an iPhone.
 

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I'd say about 80% of the world's mobile phone customers use hangouts and / or whatsapp . Just because your friends use iOS doesn't mean everyone else does, too. I don't use iMessage because literally nobody I know has an iPhone.

Uh WHAT??? You do realize that you can text anyone that has Android, Windows Phone or iOS from your iPhone right? Guess not. You can also do this with your Mac or iPad if you have an iPhone. I text all my friends using iMessage from my Mac. Some of them have Android (none of them have Windows Phone :D) and some have iPhones. It doesn't matter.

I like how you said, "I'd Say" because that's your own idea and not fact.
 

kis

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Uh WHAT??? You do realize that you can text anyone that has Android, Windows Phone or iOS from your iPhone right? Guess not. You can also do this with your Mac or iPad if you have an iPhone. I text all my friends using iMessage from my Mac. Some of them have Android (none of them have Windows Phone :D) and some have iPhones. It doesn't matter.

I like how you said, "I'd Say" because that's your own idea and not fact.


Uhmmm, sure you can text anyone but if the other person doesn't have an iOS device, it'll send the message as an SMS, so it's pointless.

Did you seriously not know that???
 

JackieInCo

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Uhmmm, sure you can text anyone but if the other person doesn't have an iOS device, it'll send the message as an SMS, so it's pointless.

Did you seriously not know that???
I just sent a picture in a text message from my iPhone to my note 4 and it came through perfectly.
 

Vundu

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For me it was waiting for updates to be finally released for my device and the realisation that the apps are nit as good as their iOS counterparts.

Even ones like eBay were not as good.
 

kis

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Of course but not having iMessage isn't the end of the world. It doesn't stop anyone from texting.


I know, but that's not the point of the discussion here. Not everyone has free SMS

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For me it was waiting for updates to be finally released for my device and the realisation that the apps are nit as good as their iOS counterparts.



Even ones like eBay were not as good.


Depends on the app and the phone. nexus devices get updated every few months. Android apps are frequently more powerful than the iOS counterparts because Android allows more direct OS access
 

mrex

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Cons of switching to the Android family?

Uh WHAT??? You do realize that you can text anyone that has Android, Windows Phone or iOS from your iPhone right? Guess not. You can also do this with your Mac or iPad if you have an iPhone. I text all my friends using iMessage from my Mac. Some of them have Android (none of them have Windows Phone :D) and some have iPhones. It doesn't matter.

I like how you said, "I'd Say" because that's your own idea and not fact.


you can but then you pay for sms/mms. but what about if we are not talking just about phones? how about android and windows tablets and computers? imessage fails... i cant send sms from my ipad either, because i dont have iphone.
 
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Darryjr

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I have been a devout android user since the beginning. I switched to the iPhone 5 when it was released and couldn't stand it. I currently own the m8,G3 , note 4 , to name a few. YES , I have a phone problem

Fast forward. Last Friday i bought my wife the iPhone 6, she was using the 5c. So I played with the phone a while and was very surprised how smooth and fluid this phone was. So much so , I picked myself up a 6plus. I am shocked at how smooth and polished everything runs. My m8 is the smoothest fastest android I have used and this 6 plus puts it to shame.

I am amazed with how you can use the same apps side by side on both phones and iPhone just feels so much better. Can't really explain it. Just a totally different experience. The battery life is amazing on this as well.

I have been a long time forum member and would read these posts daily. I would laugh at how the comparisons were between the two platforms. I was like , screw iOS i have android and it's better. I was one of them. After using this phone I am converted. You can do anything on iOS that you can do on android. And truly do it better.


Sorry for my rant , just shocked and wanted to share.
 

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Some of the most popular topics on the Android forums right now is the Note 4 laggyness. It's real and everyone has it.

But I did order a iPhone 6+ today as I am leaning on going back to a smooth interface and will probably sell the Note 4.

I haven't noticed that. I will say that my Note 4 and Note Edge are the fastest phones I have ever used.

I am getting an iPhone 6+ delivered today but I don't expect it to be much different then my 5S except for the increased pixel count and bigger screen. iPhones haven't changed much in the past few years. I've owned every iPhone except for the 5.

Every one I know who has an Android phone these days. I am the only one at my job out of about 15 people who still has an iPhone though I use my Note 4/Edge at work.
 

kis

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Android is still jittery. It just is. They improved it in some areas, but the general OS just doesn't have the smoothness of iOS and (imo) never will. It makes the experience a lot less enjoyable


I would have agreed until I got my iPhone 6 Plus which is nowhere near as fluid as it should be. It lags sometimes, apps open slowly. I'm on my second one now, the first one also randomly rebooted and got very hot and had Bluetooth issues. The fact is: today you can buy Android devices that are considerably faster and more fluid to use than the iPhones. That doesn't mean they look nicer, but speed problems are only present on some Samsung devices (S5, but not the Note 4) and some made by LG
 

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As someone who has heavily used Android (Droid 1, HTC Thunderbolt, Moto X, Note 3, Nexus 7 tablet) and has some Apple experience (iPhone 4s, 5, Macbook Air 2011, iPad 3, iPad mini 2, and currently 6+). I've rooted most of my Android devices.

I prefer Apple devices for simplicity, build (hardware) quality, software quality, and that "they just work" factor.

What will you lose going to Android?

1. Touch ID. I use this so much now that I'm back using an iPhone that I couldn't imagine living without it.
2. iMessage - sending VIDEO, pictures, and texts through this is so nice. If Hangouts did video, it would be close but it's laggy.
3. If you have a lot of paid apps on Apple, you'll have to re-buy them on Android. Something to keep in mind moving from Android to Apple or other way around.
4. UI Lag. Now, granted, the Moto X and Nexus devices weren't affected as much by this but Apple's OS has a much smoother experience. I can definitely type much faster on an iPhone keyboard than I can on any Android device. UI is not as smooth - although this gap is closing.
4a. The camera app on the iPhone is significantly faster than a lot of the Android devices' camera app. I take tons of photos. Quality wise, my iPhone 6+ seems to take better pics than my Note 3 but of course, the Note 3 allowed for more digital zoom.

I've used both - I still use my Nexus 7 (2013) tablet every day along side my iPhone 6+. I don't hate either - but I definitely am a lot happier using an iPhone for my mobile device. Never felt 100% happy on Android even when rooting - trying to get as ASOP as possible. Won't be buying another Samsung device for awhile -- plastic cases are terrible. SAMOLED screens can't compare to the iPhone's screen outside.
 

kis

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Some of the most popular topics on the Android forums right now is the Note 4 laggyness. It's real and everyone has it.



But I did order a iPhone 6+ today as I am leaning on going back to a smooth interface and will probably sell the Note 4.


I honestly don't - never had. I'm very allergic to lags but my work Note 4 has never been laggy. Of course, I can only compare it to my personal 6 Plus, which isn't very fast. My wife's 6 is much faster.

I couldn't say which OS is better at this point. They're both the same when it comes to usability, availability of apps, speed etc. Android offers greater device choice but you have to be careful which ones you buy as not all manufacturers offer prompt updates.

It's down to personal choice.
 

JackieInCo

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I honestly don't - never had. I'm very allergic to lags but my work Note 4 has never been laggy. Of course, I can only compare it to my personal 6 Plus, which isn't very fast. My wife's 6 is much faster.

I couldn't say which OS is better at this point. They're both the same when it comes to usability, availability of apps, speed etc. Android offers greater device choice but you have to be careful which ones you buy as not all manufacturers offer prompt updates.

It's down to personal choice.

Agreed. As far as lag, I honestly don't think I've ever seen my Note 4 or Note Edge lag once. It's tops in terms of speed.

I've had my iPhone 6+ now for a full day and I can truly say that my Note 4 and Edge are just a bit snappier at opening apps and switching to other things.

Samsung has it going on lately.
 

JackieInCo

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Just a picture to show that I do have all of these phones and I'm not talking out of inexperience.
 

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JAG21979

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I'll chime in being an Android and ios user simultaneously. Android drawbacks a becoming fewer and fewer. Security is always an issue with Android, but what isn't nowadays. You will miss the how well Apple is integrated into everything, it's essentially the benchmark for everything. I personally became tired of Bluetooth connectivity in my truck and with my bluebuds X with my note 4. It would pause for no reason and sometimes fail to connect automatically 100% of the time, unlike my iPhone 6. YouTube videos constantly buffered with my note 4, which is inexcusable because my ios YouTube app works flawlessly. With Android phones, your phone will only be the latest and greatest for a few months then something new and shiny will come along, and if you're like me, you'll want it and will never be satisfied with what you're using. Just my experience with Android. I'm now a happy ios user.
 

HenryDJP

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Uhmmm, sure you can text anyone but if the other person doesn't have an iOS device, it'll send the message as an SMS, so it's pointless.

Did you seriously not know that???

Uh I did seriously know that sir. You're missing the point though. What difference does it make if it's an SMS or not? Just about (if not all) every carrier offers unlimited text messaging in their calling plans.
 

kis

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Uh I did seriously know that sir. You're missing the point though. What difference does it make if it's an SMS or not? Just about (if not all) every carrier offers unlimited text messaging in their calling plans.


Yeah, not outside the U.S. Sending an SMS from here to Germany costs me 60c.
 

HenryDJP

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you can but then you pay for sms/mms. but what about if we are not talking just about phones? how about android and windows tablets and computers? imessage fails... i cant send sms from my ipad either, because i dont have iphone.

SMS generally comes as unlimited messaging in most, if not all calling plans, so it doesn't matter if iMessage ends up sending it as an SMS. Years ago that mattered. It's a complete non-issue with today's calling plans.

Your second point is pointless to this thread because this thread is about OP asking if it makes sense to stay with an iPhone or switch to Android.

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Yeah, not outside the U.S. Sending an SMS from here to Germany costs me 60c.

You're stretching it way past the OP's question. And that's far from a typical scenario for most. AND the OP stated that he enjoys using iMessage so that's a non-issue for him.
 

kis

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You're stretching it way past the OP's question. And that's far from a typical scenario for most. AND the OP stated that he enjoys using iMessage so that's a non-issue for him.


It's a very typical scenario for most Europeans (of which there are quite a few on this forum). The discussion was about whether there's an iMessage alternative on Android - I suggested Hangouts. Upon which two people here claimed that iMessage works fine with Android - which it doesn't. The point of using messengers rather than SMS and MMS goes way beyond the fact that SMS still isn't free for everyone. SMS is limited to 160 characters, MMS doesn't send high-res pictures etc etc. In short, they're both crappy and a thing from the last century (quite literally). Nobody wants to use that crap anymore.
 

mrex

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Cons of switching to the Android family?

SMS generally comes as unlimited messaging in most, if not all calling plans, so it doesn't matter if iMessage ends up sending it as an SMS. Years ago that mattered. It's a complete non-issue with today's calling plans.


i dont know where you live but i suppose you live in us because you talk about plans. plenty of europeans dont have calling plans because for most it is much cheaper without plans than paying montly extra for anykind of plans. they are pushing those plans for sure to get a new money cow. my own phonebills are pretty low (including unlimited data) and if took a plan i would pay more than i pay now. and most plans here are something like x amount sms and y amount calls or if you want unlimited everything, you pay the same price as you do in us which is ridiculous amount of money on every month. maybe you have got used to pay, but surely im not.

i hardly send sms/mms nowadays because all my friends are using skype which i can use with any devices. sms is also limited, it costs money, and mms are even more expensive and pretty useless when you can share files and vids on much better way and people can use differend kind of device to watch them.

hangouts is one app and alternative for imessage but i prefer skype because all of my friends has it and it doesnt matter which device i take to my hand, it is there. i dont even remember when i got sms from a friend. they send messages via hangouts or skype all the time.

i do understand your point. if you live among people having iphones then imessage is good for you. but here on europe most of your friends dont have iphones. the perspective is differend and affecting our opinions of imessage. for someone imessage is well suited and for someone else it just an app sending sms.
 
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Shanghaichica

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I live in Europe (UK) and my plan gives me unlimited calls and texts. It's only my 4G data which is capped. I can understand liking iMessage but there are plenty of other messaging apps (what's app, Google hangouts, BBM) that allow you to send messages using data and are all available on android. Although I have an iPhone, about 2/3 of my contact list use android, so I'm not heavily dependent on iMessage.
 
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