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You guys have convinced me. You can keep this forum and you can keep Apple. I wanted some assistance. What I got was crap and rude remarks. I don't have time for BS like this. You guys must work for Google.

Look, this forum is like a battleground: Android (mostly Samsung) vs Apple. But it's the Android/Samsung trolls here that put everyone on edge. It's sort of unbelievable.

In the big picture it's nothing of course. But rude is inevitable. You can't expect warm a fuzzy. We still have pulses :D

In the early days it wasn't so at all. It sort of crept in over the years. (All in fun though!:))
 
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Apple makes their phones really well. They don’t release buggy updates, and if there is a bug it is fixed ASAP. Your phone will always work with Apple, and it will work seeminglessly with other Apple products. iMessage between other iPhone users? Works like magic. Your photos will always send in the resolution that you sent them. This also works with Airdrop, the native file sharing service for Apple. So many native features that android OS requires external apps for.
Yes you can always download more apps on the play store that replicate the iPhone’s native features, but that’s all they’ll be, replicates that sometimes don’t work as well as you want to or require the other person to download an app they never heard of. This is my main argument for Apple iPhones. They work with exceptional quality that can’t be easily replicated by any android device.
 
Bottom line......what does an iPhone have/what can an iPhone do that would make a 15 year Android vet jump ship?

Thanks, all.

HAGO!!!

An iPhone will finally allow you to interact with your Apple loving family and friends who only share things via iCloud photo sharing, who can only use FaceTime for video chat, and who can only text with others who have blue text bubbles, because they think they are paying extra when they see green chat bubbles (and maybe they are if they don’t have a decent SMS chat plan).

Seriously, I feel for the people in our family who use Android. They miss out on a lot because I was never able to convince the rest to use services like Google Photo, Hangouts, and Skype that all support both Android and iOS. When I remember to do so, I cross-post photos I share to both iCloud and Google Photos, because it’s the only way all the grandparents, siblings, and cousins will see it.

Maybe you don’t have any Apple users in your circles, or maybe the ios users in your circles are not people you want to share more with. If that’s the case, stick with your Android and use it like a buffer. :D
 
The deeper you go into the Apple ecosystem system, the better their products get.

I can make a solid case for both operating systems, but it really boils down to personal use and priorities.

I don't know if I would agree with that post. To me going deep would require investing a fair amount of money. If you were just starting your journey into the Apple way of doing things you might start with an iPhone or iPad. If your friends and family mostly use iMessage and FaceTime it will be a nice feature. If the people you communicate with use both Android and Apple, then not so much.

From there buying a desktop, you would have to invest at least $1000 for an entry level 21.5 inch iMac all the way up to $5,000 just to get the entry level iMac Pro. At this point I don't count the Mac mini or Mac Pro because it's been YEARS since they updated those products.

From there you would need to spend at least another Grand or more to get a basic laptop. At this point you are getting deeper into the Apple eco system, so you will get to enjoy things like handoff, iMusic, etc. You could add a HomePod or an Apple TV, or an Apple Watch and use your current devices with other Apple products. Now one thing to consider is that every piece of hardware you add there is an alternative. Some are better some are worse. The thing with using Apple branded products is you are limited with what you can do with Apple branded products using other platforms like Android. For example, you cant sync an Apple Watch with Android (As far as I know), and using a Samsung watch with Apple is limited. To use all the features you need an Android phone.

If you buy software on Google it is limited to Android hardware. If you buy Apple it is limited to Apple products. If you buy movies on iTunes you can only play them through iTunes. Nothing else.

Then if you start to add things like routers (Which Apple no longer makes) you will have to look outside the eco system. I find it kind of funny that Apple utilizes Time Machine for backing up your computer, but since they stopped making the Time Capsule, you have to rely on an outside company that makes a product that supports Time Machine to back up your computer. Not sure why they even include the Airport utility anymore in MacOS. Just one example of a lot of loose ends Apple has let linger.

There is a lot more I could point out, but posts like this are usually just glossed over and forgotten. For me in a nutshell getting stuck in the Apple eco system means you have to use Apple products in order to use FaceTime and iMessage. Those are the two biggest limits. You can't use Airplay with anything but Apple products. You can't use Airdrop with anything but Apple products. Those features are just conveniences I use once in a great while.

The biggest advantage of "going deep" for me would be handoff. Nothing more. But again it's a feature I use once in a great while.
 
You guys have convinced me. You can keep this forum and you can keep Apple. I wanted some assistance. What I got was crap and rude remarks. I don't have time for BS like this. You guys must work for Google.
The humorous inability to separate forum replies from Apple and iPhone ownership speaks volumes about who you are and your intentions in posting.
 
Well - there's the whole not getting stalked by Google thing.
Also, iOS is far more stable than any version of android, you get updates right away without your carrier getting in the way, and there is actually a physical store to go to with great customer service if anything goes wrong.
 
Guys please, don't bother anymore....OP left this thread long time ago :)
 
Hi, all! My name is Christopher and I've been an Android phone user since Android was a baby. I've never had an iPhone although I've had an iPad Air 2 for a couple of years.

I usually upgrade phones to the latest flagship every year. I've considered an iPhone for the past couple of years but just haven't been able to give up on something I "know" (Android). My current phone is a Samsung Galaxy S8+. One of the reasons I keep considering an iPhone is updates. Android phones (except for the Essential, Pixel line up and the older Nexus line up) are notoriously slow @ updating, both security updates and OS updates. I like some of the customizability of an Android and really like the fact that I can add widgets (I live for my Weather Channel and clock/alarm clock widgets). I don't customize a lot but I like that I can tweak my phone to suit me. I don't think I can do that w/an iPhone, right?

The price has also kept me away from iPhones. I'm changing carriers this year and the only Android phone they carry that I would want is the Note 9. That's not quite as pricy as the 256gb XS Max I'd buy in the Apple line up but it's close so the price difference isn't such a sticking point anymore.

Bottom line......what does an iPhone have/what can an iPhone do that would make a 15 year Android vet jump ship?

Thanks, all.

HAGO!!!
Android operating systems are built on “open” development platforms which is extremely vulnerable to hacking. While Apple iOS is built in close and protected development environment which reduces hacking vulnerabilities. If you would like to know more, ask one or more reliable and knowledgeable cyber security experts. They will not recommend anyone to have android devices.
 
iPhone is only worth if you're invested in the Apple ecosystem, otherwise Android is more customizable, and it's a PC in your pocket.
 
You’ve had an ipad air 2 for a time, you’re not new to ios. To own an iphone is basically a smaller ipad you can from. Get to learn your ipad is probably the best way to understans if iphone is the way for you.
 
For everyday use you are not going to find huge differences beyond how things are done in each OS. Specific software may be better or worse, e.g. Reddit readers are far better on Android.

I feel iOS handles gesture-based navigation better than Android 9 and iPhone is available in a smaller size than most flagship Androids excluding the Galaxy S9. iOS will be more hassle for specific file types or downloading things to your phone and default apps are just not a thing but don’t get in the way too much.

I think you need to consider what you don’t like about Android and whether those things are handled better by iOS. Both platforms have annoyances to deal with.

This forum is way too fan-boyish at times, I think both platforms have their own strengths and it comes down to preference which you like best.
 
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iPhone is only worth if you're invested in the Apple ecosystem, otherwise Android is more customizable, and it's a PC in your pocket.

The iPhone alone with no ecosystem is still one of the best phones one can buy. It’s certainly well supported beyond any other phone maker.

The iPhone just gets better when you happen to have additional Apple devices. MacBook Pro, iPhone, Apple Watch and AirPods is an unrivaled example of ecosystem and experience cohesiveness. Android not so much. They may have similar devices but the experience and support is a lacking hodgepodge of purchases.

It’s evident Apple teams actually talk to each other. I don’t see this same level of collaboration in the end result Google or Microsoft products.
 
Hi, all! My name is Christopher and I've been an Android phone user since Android was a baby. I've never had an iPhone although I've had an iPad Air 2 for a couple of years.

I usually upgrade phones to the latest flagship every year. I've considered an iPhone for the past couple of years but just haven't been able to give up on something I "know" (Android). My current phone is a Samsung Galaxy S8+. One of the reasons I keep considering an iPhone is updates. Android phones (except for the Essential, Pixel line up and the older Nexus line up) are notoriously slow @ updating, both security updates and OS updates. I like some of the customizability of an Android and really like the fact that I can add widgets (I live for my Weather Channel and clock/alarm clock widgets). I don't customize a lot but I like that I can tweak my phone to suit me. I don't think I can do that w/an iPhone, right?

The price has also kept me away from iPhones. I'm changing carriers this year and the only Android phone they carry that I would want is the Note 9. That's not quite as pricy as the 256gb XS Max I'd buy in the Apple line up but it's close so the price difference isn't such a sticking point anymore.

Bottom line......what does an iPhone have/what can an iPhone do that would make a 15 year Android vet jump ship?

Thanks, all.

HAGO!!!
I can't convince you. I can't even convince myself.

Here's the one reason why I stick to Android as my primary - Calls Blacklist PRO

I hate spam calls so much I even deactivated my T-Mobile voice mail because the bot calls would still leave messages.

When I switched my sim to my SE for a day, I got spam calls all the time. It can't block unknown callers. There is no iOS app comparable to Call Blacklist PRO. Trust me, I tried them all. I would need to jailbreak my iPhone to use iBlacklist.

The only ones who can reach me is everyone on my contact list which aren't many and a certain area code for my work that I whitelisted. Every day is spam-free for me using an Android. Can't say the same for iOS.

That's why even if I bought an iPhone XR or whatever, it could never be my daily driver as a phone. Has to be an Android. And iTunes to handle media? Really, Apple? It's still 2005? SMH.
 
The iPhone alone with no ecosystem is still one of the best phones one can buy. It’s certainly well supported beyond any other phone maker.

The iPhone just gets better when you happen to have additional Apple devices. MacBook Pro, iPhone, Apple Watch and AirPods is an unrivaled example of ecosystem and experience cohesiveness. Android not so much. They may have similar devices but the experience and support is a lacking hodgepodge of purchases.

It’s evident Apple teams actually talk to each other. I don’t see this same level of collaboration in the end result Google or Microsoft products.
One of the best not the best as that’s highly subjective, I always say this Android is like a PC in your pocket, iOS is a simple to use device for people who couldn’t care less about messing with their phones.
 
I used to be a big Android guy. I rooted and flashed all my phones and all...but as I got older I never did that, and didn't mess with my phone as much. I just got in and out quickly, just like my sex life. I realized I didn't need all the extra customization that Android Brought me. I also heard a lot of people saying that Google's apps/services actually are better on the iPhone lol....they always have an outstanding camera. You don't really have to worry about small weird stuff depending on what phone you have (this issue/that issue, waiting for update, this phone has that feature, this one doesn't blah blah)

I'll say since doing so I haven't regretted it once. I now have a MBP, iPhone, iPad and an Apple TV. Before I'd have to bounce between my laptop/tablet/PS4/phone to chrome cast or HDMI cable to watch something on my TV I wanted to stream as a cord cutter. I literally use my Apple TV now, and thats it. If I have to (very rare) I'll air play something to my ATV. Everything just works together, and works together pretty damn good. Apple also has store fronts you can go visit to get something fixed or return/exchange something, that's a nice thing.

I used to make fun of Apple/iphone fanboys, and I now own nothing but Apple crap now and always buy the newest stuff. I have become a sheep lol
 
First version of Android was released in 2008 so isn't 10 years of experience rather than 15 years?
 
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