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jonharris200

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Feb 25, 2006
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Just got a 20" iMac over the weekend. My network utility says g not n. But I really hope that's just a typo! ;)

By the way, it's GORGEOUS...
 

paradillon

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Jan 1, 2004
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(802.11g standard)

"standard" is what is says, does 802.11n support the 802.11g standard? I see it possible being a n capable card.
 

Mac Fly (film)

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Feb 12, 2006
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arn said:
I think it's clear that the card currently only supports 802.11g/b at this point under the current version of Mac OS X. The latest vista drivers appears to identify the card as a 802.11n capable card. I don't think these capabilities are advertised or even supported under Mac OS X at the moment.

If someone wants to verify, they can try the latest Vista beta on their Core 2 Duo iMac to verify it's identification.... now that could be a mis-ID I suppose... but the previous iMac (Core Duo)'s wireless card is reportedly identified as Broadcom Multiband Network Card, and not 802.11n, under the same version of Vista.

arn
That clears it up a bit, cheers!
 

arn

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paradillon said:
"standard" is what is says, does 802.11n support the 802.11g standard?

The Broadcom card

http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN

appears to support 802.11a/b/g/n all in one card

Intensi-fi is Broadcom's implementation of the 802.11n draft specification and the industry's first draft-802.11n solutions. Intensi-fi technology delivers superior performance and robust wireless connectivity throughout a home or office, enabling next-generation Wi-Fi devices to support voice, video and data applications. Intensi-fi chipsets are also designed to be compatible with existing 802.11a/b/g products.
 

mi5moav

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Well, it looks like MacBooks will be updated tomorrow or at least sometime this week. Though have no clue about MacBook Pros.
 

steve_hill4

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I still don't see why Apple shouldn't use a draft-n card, as long as it's b and g compatible.

So they use a g card now, that will work with all pre-n, draft-n and eventually n equipment, but at the g speed. They use either draft-n or pre-n now and when n is around, the worst would be still g.

I really hope Apple launch a few products and at least one conforms to 802.11n of some description.
 

Peace

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If anybody else has a new Core 2 Duo and the latest version of Vista build 5728 please look in your system and see what it says.My brother runs the same build of vista only on the older core duo and all it says is broadcom multiband network card

On mine it says broadcom 802.11n network card.
 

amin

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Aug 17, 2003
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It does make sense that iTV would be 802.11n. If so, then I would certainly appreciate Apple having had the foresight to give us compatible Wifi cards with this generation of iMacs.
 

Killyp

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Jun 14, 2006
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If they do update the wifi technology, do you think my MacBook pro will be capable of receiving the upgrade?
 

l008com

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Jan 20, 2004
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Forget about increased speed. Does the new n-spec improve on range at all? That would be much more usefull to me than faster speeds.
 

jjthomps

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Tommyg117 said:
This is great news, but I have to doubt it because Apple usually doesn't make moves until things like this are standardized. They won't make the jump to blu-ray or hddvd until it has picked up a little more steam (IF it does), therefore I believe that this is not going to happen until 802.11n is standardized next year.


Apple released Airport Extreme before 802.11g was fully ratified. "n" must be pretty close, or the cost of the broadband chip with a/b/g/n technology is a wash in cost to just an "b/g" card. And it maybe a nice install base for macs that will connect to iTV.
 

steve_hill4

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jjthomps said:
Apple released Airport Extreme before 802.11g was fully ratified. "n" must be pretty close, or the cost of the broadband chip with a/b/g/n technology is a wash in cost to just an "b/g" card. And it maybe a nice install base for macs that will connect to iTV.
Add to that the fact Apple are already backing Blu-Ray, (just not offering it aside from 3rd party external drive support), and the above statement becomes a little less meaningful.
 

BeyondCloister

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Nov 6, 2002
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l008com said:
Forget about increased speed. Does the new n-spec improve on range at all? That would be much more usefull to me than faster speeds.

It would be good if there was some way of limiting the range. Working in a business centre containing multiple companies and their wireless base stations causes so much interference with conflicting frequencies. Even greater range would mean picking up even more networks to confuse things :(
 

puuukeey

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god bless toothepastefordinner
 

LimeiBook86

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May 4, 2002
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I just hope that if Apple uses 802.11n in their new products (such as the iTV) there will be an option for an AirPort card update. I mean my iMac is the first Intel one and of course I'm not going to upgrade just for a new wireless card but, I wonder if they can offer upgrades if need be.

After all the iTV always has ethernet, I just don't want to run a long cable :p I think the iTV should be ok with 802.11g, the device has HD outputs but, the movies from the iTunes Store aren't in HD, so I wouldn't think there would be much of a problem...unless they're just getting ready for a future feature ;)
 

Eidorian

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Mar 23, 2005
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bigandy said:
i was asking how in the hell that had anything to do with this thread.... it's not making much sense.
The Core 2 Duo iMac has 802.11n hardware in it. IF they update the MacBook/Pro to Core 2 Duo it might have 802.11n hardware too.
 
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