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Core 2 duo mac mini

macenforcer said:
I never said $695. I said $659. Speed ain't cheap my friend. Ain't cheap at all.
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No, it's not "cheap at all" when you purchase on the wrong side of the value curve.

I bought a mini earlier this year, and almost immediately swapped in a T7200, as it was- and still is in my opinion- the best bang-for-the-buck CPU upgrade.

It has roughly 86% of the performance of the T7600, but cost roughly 46% as much.
 
What pin is the T7200? Someone said its 479, but all i can find is 478? Will it matter if i find a 478?
 
There's some misnaming going on about these chips, as there is Socket 478, Socket 479, and Socket M. All with 478 pins and incompatible with each other.

The real name of the mini's type is Socket M.
 
I think the T7200 may be too hot for the mini. It's reported to run at 55C (idle) and 80C (load).

I guess that's why there are no mini updates. Apple must be waiting for Penryn to be able to offer an interesting update at a reasonable temperature.
 
cube said:
I think the T7200 may be too hot for the mini. It's reported to run at 55C (idle) and 80C (load).

I guess that's why there are no mini updates. Apple must be waiting for Penryn to be able to offer an interesting update at a reasonable temperature.
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That is exactly what my stock mini ran at with the 1.66 core duo. THat is not hot.
 
cube said:
Obviously you haven't looked much at overclocking.
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Um yes I have actually. Where are you getting your numbers from? Because they are totally off. Are you comparing desktop processors to notebook processors because the heat in a notebook is far greater than a desktop. I already told you that 55c was idle temp for a stock mini.
 
I didn't say what you posted was not the normal temperature for the mini.
I'm just saying it's more than what one tries to keep a desktop under.

Why would it be safe to run a mobile at a greater temperature?
 
cube said:
I didn't say what you posted was not the normal temperature for the mini.
I'm just saying it's more than what one tries to keep a desktop under.

Why would it be safe to run a mobile at a greater temperature?
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I knew you were referencing desktop temps.


Mobile cpu is safe up to 100C. Though it will never get that hot because of thermal shutdown to save itself. 65c underload is awesome for a notbook cpu.
 
cube said:
There's some misnaming going on about these chips, as there is Socket 478, Socket 479, and Socket M. All with 478 pins and incompatible with each other.

The real name of the mini's type is Socket M.
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Does that mean the 478 pinned T7200 would fit fine?
 
Here the Socket M points to the 478-pin version. Loot at the reviews. Someone says he put it in the Mac mini.
You'll have to hope that link is right.
 
Note that maybe the "479-pin" designation of intel also has 478 pins, so you can't just go by this number (even Socket P has 478 pins).
 
Cube, any socket M will work. Don't look at the pins. None of that makes sense. Socket M like T7200, T7400, T7600. Those are the only options when going Core 2 Duo.
 
That is what I am saying, there is only Socket M or BGA for soldering.

He only got it refrerred to as 478-pin by his source.
 
Socket P derives from Socket M which derives from Socket 479 which derives from socket 478. They all have 478 pins but they are all different.

One sees online sales sites mislabeling Socket M as Socket 479. That's how I told you Socket 479 the other day. You see sites refering to the Mac mini as socket M and Socket 479.

Socket M appeared with the Core architecture.

The only version sold in a box is Socket M (as well as OEM). The BGA version is only OEM. I guess it would be hard to stumble on a site selling the BGA version, specially in single quantities, as it is for surface mount.

Anyway, your page explicitly says FCPGA, which is not a ball grid array (which is BTW supposed to have 479 balls/pins).

You have a contact link at the bottom if you want to talk to them about this confusion.
 
cube said:
Socket P derives from Socket M which derives from Socket 479 which derives from socket 478. They all have 478 pins but they are all different.

One sees online sales sites mislabeling Socket M as Socket 479. That's how I told you Socket 479 the other day. You see sites refering to the Mac mini as socket M and Socket 479.

Socket M appeared with the Core architecture.

The only version sold in a box is Socket M (as well as OEM). The BGA version is only OEM. I guess it would be hard to stumble on a site selling the BGA version, specially in single quantities, as it is for surface mount.

Anyway, your page explicitly says FCPGA, which is not a ball grid array (which is BTW supposed to have 479 balls/pins).

You have a contact link at the bottom if you want to talk to them about this confusion.
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BUT that pages stats its a 479 pin, yet at the bottom it says

Packaging Type
478-pin Micro FCPGA

Compatible Slots
1 x processor - Socket 479

?
 
It doesn't say 479-pin. It says "Socket 479", which has 478 pins. The name "Socket 478" was already used.

If you google the product code, you'll see that it is listed as Socket 478, Socket 479, and Socket M. It's a mess out there. Just be glad there is only one socketed version.
 
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