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I could certainly help out. I tend to use Drupal, and not my own CMS. Of course, that means it would be simple for you to update. Depending upon how much you need, I'd be willing to do it for anywhere from $300-$500

Shoot an IM to ComputerNap if you're interested.
 
That is a little more expensive then I thought. I definitely think I could build a nicer site than Tom's. Another fraternity on campus has a really nice site, www.chapmanfiji.com

Well, that qualifies this thread as Useless Thread of the Week

Jack, if you could do better yourself, and you want a site with custom graphics, CMS back end and password protected area and if $200 is too much, why the #&%# did you come here asking for a professional designer?
 
Oh. My. God.

And here I thought it was just a rip off of the Quark/Scottish Arts Council logo.

A client who I was dealing with (over the last few weeks) sent me that link for possible logo ideas. That's why I thought of that logo.

Personally I like Template Monster it's a good place to start when you're looking for ideas, but I don't use it because most of the templates are by far too convoluted to edit......
 
GAH!!! TABLES, INLINE STYLES WITH EXTERNAL CSS! IT BURNS!:eek: at least it looks ok
BTW: *rant* I DID NOT USE/COPY THE TEMPLATE MONSTER LOGO FOR F*** SAKES!!!! GHAAAARR! *end rant*

Either you were inspired from Template monster or some hack stole your design and sold it to template monster. It's not the first time this has happened (cough...simplebits...cough).
 
Either you were inspired from Template monster or some hack stole your design and sold it to template monster. It's not the first time this has happened (cough...simplebits...cough).

What are you implying about simple bits?
 
Either you were inspired from Template monster or some hack stole your design and sold it to template monster. It's not the first time this has happened (cough...simplebits...cough).

I thought it was esstablished that he got it from...

http://www.illustrateddesigns.com/articles/2495/1/Designing-Personal-Web-Page-Layout

and the templete from

http://homepage.mac.com/jayrunquist/posterjay/index.html

What are you implying about simple bits?

http://daringfireball.net/2007/03/logomaid_rip_off
 
The main thing for Tom (and others) to realize is: there's no way to estimate a site without knowing what the customer needs.

We don't know whether they want 4 templates and they'll populate the data themselves, or whether they have 100 pages of photos and physical documents to enter, and expect that to be part of the package.

The phrase "easy access for me to update pages (news, brother of the week, calender, etc!)" implies some kind of Content Management system, which is fine and dandy if the web host has one they offer for free and the designer is already familiar with it, and the client is happy with the stock system with all its limitations. But building from scratch, or installing on a host without support, or significantly modifying the default functionality and appearance of the CMS package, can be very time consuming.

The risk, Tom, when a designer throws out a low price without doing the client interview and needs analysis first, is that once the committment is made, and the designer sees the project spinning out of control -- and they are 50 hours plus in on a $200 contract -- the designer tends to just walk away, leaving the client #*$*ed and the designer's reputation shredded.

So let's get real here, everyone. Tom may be willing to work for $10 an hour, that's fine. Many others here rely on professional level billing to make a livelihood, and need $85 an hour - that's fine too. The client will choose the level of professional experience and budget that they are comfortable with.

To the OP:

You need to commit to spending some time up-front carefully defining your needs. Look at other sites that have the functions that you need in yours, then make a PRIORITIZED list of the features you want from most desirable down to 'nice to have'. Keep in mind that the further down the list you get the more expensive it will be. You may need to tackle this in stages. But the designer needs to know all of your goals, so the initial architecture of the site will support adding Phase 3 items next year. Before finalizing a quote, you should get to the stage of having a storyboard of your site, showing schematically frame by frame what the end users will see and choose, and what the site admin (you) will be able to see and edit.

(If you go to a professional design firm, they will go through this planning with you and charge you for the time. If budget is a priority, then it is worth doing as much of this as you can youself ahead of time.)

This is really great advice! I'm honestly still working on a lot of this. The problem is that once a client gets used to you doing business one way - i.e. giving time and cost quotes before you know their requirements - they aren't always so open to the change.
 
Well, that qualifies this thread as Useless Thread of the Week

Jack, if you could do better yourself, and you want a site with custom graphics, CMS back end and password protected area and if $200 is too much, why the #&%# did you come here asking for a professional designer?

Yeah I agree... I think he wants someone to say "I'll do it for free".
 
Ah go to the link I provided thats the tutorial for that icon set incorporated into a web page. Anyway I really just pulled the link from a previous discussion about his site.

Yeah I saw you post but I also saw a very similiar logo set via the link I put on a few posts ago.
 
GAR!! i didn't copy or use any tutorials, templates or anything like that! why wont it get through to you!

Seriously? You don't get it?

The similarities are astounding. Sure, two people can have the same idea for a logo, but this would be quite impossible. If it were just the outside Quark-style shape, or just the inner circles, we may be able to debate this, but their usage together, with the glassy black cover, is undeniable - though you are trying hard.

If indeed you had designed the logo yourself, and it were totally custom. You should be PISSED that variations of your logo are being sold on Template Monster. But this doesn't bother you?

Go pursue the artist who obviously ripped you off and is now selling your logo to who-knows-how-many people! Go fight! Template Monster is a thief! Go protect your original creation!

:rolleyes:
 
Seriously? You don't get it?

The similarities are astounding. Sure, two people can have the same idea for a logo, but this would be quite impossible. If it were just the outside Quark-style shape, or just the inner circles, we may be able to debate this, but their usage together, with the glassy black cover, is undeniable - though you are trying hard.

If indeed you had designed the logo yourself, and it were totally custom. You should be PISSED that variations of your logo are being sold on Template Monster. But this doesn't bother you?

Go pursue the artist who obviously ripped you off and is now selling your logo to who-knows-how-many people! Go fight! Template Monster is a thief! Go protect your original creation!

:rolleyes:

Well, we also saw a tutorial posted, so I am guessing that tom and template monster both ripped them off.
 
Well, that qualifies this thread as Useless Thread of the Week

Jack, if you could do better yourself, and you want a site with custom graphics, CMS back end and password protected area and if $200 is too much, why the #&%# did you come here asking for a professional designer?

Haha sorry to ruin you day MAN! I was just wondering if someone who did it more for a hobby rather than a career could throw one together in a day or two for fun for about $100.
 
even at 100.00

even if you have a straight forward site with Contact, home About us, Events, blog,
security FTP. you'd be looking @ a week or longer depending on graphics from conception to execution. even if someone does a hack job, you'll likely get what you pay for. I'd have done it for 200.00 a page+, but I am a pro.
BTW
I just got my web site up & running again. 3 of the right side links are under construction
I still have to tag the content for the band promos & Brochures, Web.
I got the business, rack cards done yesterday, Have some photo-retouch, ready to put up. Should be fully functional in a couple days.

www.galacticgraphic.com

Let me know what you think.
mperkins37
 
Haha sorry to ruin you day MAN! I was just wondering if someone who did it more for a hobby rather than a career could throw one together in a day or two for fun for about $100.

Yup, as we suspected, you are looking for someone to do about 30+ hours of work for you for free. Good luck. Why don't you ask your fraternity brothers and see who is willing to volunteer?
 
even if you have a straight forward site with Contact, home About us, Events, blog,
security FTP. you'd be looking @ a week or longer depending on graphics from conception to execution. even if someone does a hack job, you'll likely get what you pay for. I'd have done it for 200.00 a page+, but I am a pro.
BTW
I just got my web site up & running again. 3 of the right side links are under construction
I still have to tag the content for the band promos & Brochures, Web.
I got the business, rack cards done yesterday, Have some photo-retouch, ready to put up. Should be fully functional in a couple days.

www.galacticgraphic.com

Let me know what you think.
mperkins37

Well, personally, I think that site is hideous and definitely not worth $200 a page.

I threw this together in iWeb in about 45 minutes, I would be curious to what everyone else thinks about it. It is not finished and there is still some work to be done but it is a good start. Let me know what you think! Thanks for everyones input/advice. I apologize for the lack of knowledge in the field.

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Picture2.jpg
 
Nice site you'll have to post it when it has been completed. I think a lot of people (and web professionals) out there go for graphical content rather than the functionality and purpose of the web site.

If it suits the needs of your target audience then it will be a winner.
 

I thought he was referring to the April Fools Day Joke that lots of sites did, claiming to create an original logo and copying Dan's. I guess the original idea for the joke must have came from that.


Haha sorry to ruin you day MAN! I was just wondering if someone who did it more for a hobby rather than a career could throw one together in a day or two for fun for about $100.

Why not just have a member or someone on campus do it? Most frats or organizations I know just have an inhouse person, which can sometimes lead to an ugly website. But if you don't have any tech savvy people, then do it yourself in iWeb or find somebody on campus who's willing to do it. Somebody will. $100 under the table buys a lot of beer.
 
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