Could we see M3 before A17?

[Jorbanead]

The answer to OP question was answered a month ago
Now is also kind officially...so this topic can be closed

Uh, we haven’t seen either M3 or A17 yet? So why would this topic be closed?

 

[bcortens]

Uh, we haven’t seen either M3 or A17 yet? So why would this topic be closed?

The history of the A series suggests that the A17 will arrive in September and modern Apple doesn't have summer events - the focus this summer will be on visionOS and the rest of the WWDC announcements so it is almost guaranteed that the M series will be out after or (at the earliest) at the same time as the A series .

 

[Jorbanead]

The history of the A series suggests that the A17 will arrive in September and modern Apple doesn't have summer events - the focus this summer will be on visionOS and the rest of the WWDC announcements so it is almost guaranteed that the M series will be out after or (at the earliest) at the same time as the A series .

Sure but it hasn’t happened yet.

We now know that R1 likely derailed M3 for 2023.

Let’s not treat our “guesses” as if they are facts.

There are a lot of people in this forum that are jumping the gun before they happen. Unless Apple themselves have confirmed things, they are speculation.

Speculation is a big part of MacRumors forums, but we need to stop treating our personal speculation as fact until they actually happen or we get confirmation from Apple.

 

[steve123]

Let’s not treat our “guesses” as if they are facts.

This particular issue was corroborated with the reports the Apple Silicon design team warned of internal resource constraints impacting A and M series designs as a result of the workload added by the Vision Pro. Now we know R1 is the reason that concern was raised.

 

[JPack]

This particular issue was corroborated with the reports the Apple Silicon design team warned of internal resource constraints impacting A and M series designs as a result of the workload added by the Vision Pro. Now we know R1 is the reason that concern was raised.

Where did you read that?

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

After WWDC 2023, I highly doubt that M3 will even come out before A17.

- WWDC 2023 is over and yet no M3 based Mac ever announced. I dont think they wont gonna announce any more Macs in this year.
- Apple Vision Pro will use M2 and yet it wont be available till early 2024. Which means there wont be M3 even later this year.
- iPhone 15 Pro's chip just started to mass manufacture and they dont have time to make M3 chips yet.

I had expected M3 MBAs in November, but after WWDC, I think it will be January or March (Hopefully not, but that is what expect the most now). No way they will release the 15” MBA just to either update it again in November or skip it while releasing the 13”. January would put it at the same timeframe as between M1 and M2 though.

 

[Jorbanead]

This particular issue was corroborated with the reports the Apple Silicon design team warned of internal resource constraints impacting A and M series designs as a result of the workload added by the Vision Pro. Now we know R1 is the reason that concern was raised.

Do you have a source?

Unless Apple themselves have stated on record this to be true, a report by a 3rd party source is not confirmation or proof of this to be true.

I’d suggest changing your wording to be more aligned with speculation and/or possibilities rather than stating this as facts, unless you have sources to backup your claims that come from Apple or their representatives.

 

[steve123]

Where did you read that?

Somewhere here on Mac Rumours ... I'll try to find the reference. I cannot remember the source, Gurman or Kuo I think but I am not sure.

Here it is (Mark Gurman):

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/report-apple-executives-cautious-of-mixed-reality-headset-amid-compromises.2389867/

 

[smulji]

For R1 to show up now, when M3 is expected, is a clear indication the design activities overlapped. So, there would have been resource constraints when R1 was dumped on the team. Now that we see the appearance of R1, it appears R1 had the priority for the resources and so we have a delayed M3. How big of a delay it not known at the moment but I think it could be as much as 12 to 18 months. It would likely take that long to bring a new team up to speed on the M series roadmap and get them productive. In hindsight, the delay likely explains why there have been no M3 leaks.

I'm not expecting any M3-based SoC until Spring 2024 at the earliest. My guess is that the next iPad Pro, which is due Spring 2024, will get it first.

 

[JPack]

Somewhere here on Mac Rumours ... I'll try to find the reference. I cannot remember the source, Gurman or Kuo I think but I am not sure.

Here it is (Mark Gurman):

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/report-apple-executives-cautious-of-mixed-reality-headset-amid-compromises.2389867/

I know you're biased, but come on. There is nothing in the Bloomberg piece that supports your claim of "internal resource constraints impacting A and M series designs."

 

[Jorbanead]

Somewhere here on Mac Rumours ... I'll try to find the reference. I cannot remember the source, Gurman or Kuo I think but I am not sure.

Here it is (Mark Gurman):

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/report-apple-executives-cautious-of-mixed-reality-headset-amid-compromises.2389867/

Article states

He has warned that designing the high-performance chips that the headset requires could distract from new iPhone chips that drive more revenue.

It’s a big jump to go from this statement to essentially saying it is now confirmed that R1 has setback M3 production