crap, I broke something

[macfearless]

It's not so much a good and evil thing, nor am I condoning stealing... it's just the level of self righteousness and pretentiousness on this site seems like it has gotten way out of control. The biggest thing that sucks is that macrumors.com is a great site, and use to be welcoming. Now it's just about who knows more about this or that, or who can put someone down in the quickest most petulant way. Everyone is so quick to jump someones a$$ about grammar, spelling, or having a question about something that seems stupid. It's just getting a little ridiculous. Yeah, being misleading is wrong, but let their parents help them with that, and let their teachers help them with spelling. Oh yeah, and please leave Mr. Lucas out of it

 

[akm3]

It's not so much a good and evil thing, nor am I condoning stealing... it's just the level of self righteousness and pretentiousness on this site seems like it has gotten way out of control. The biggest thing that sucks is that macrumors.com is a great site, and use to be welcoming. Now it's just about who knows more about this or that, or who can put someone down in the quickest most petulant way. Everyone is so quick to jump someones a$$ about grammar, spelling, or having a question about something that seems stupid. It's just getting a little ridiculous. Yeah, being misleading is wrong, but let their parents help them with that, and let their teachers help them with spelling. Oh yeah, and please leave Mr. Lucas out of it

Even though I'm one of the 'righteous offenders' (and become doubly so after my $750 'oops' that I was honest about) I actually agree with you. People ask a question and the judgements start rolling in, and the grammar nazis, and the etc, etc. I only went ballistic on the commenter though, not the original poster who I just believe genuinely has an issue and we should try to help him with it.

And it's OK to be a stockholder and still demand superior products, those aren't inconsistent. I'm a long term buy and hold stockholder (The only righteous kind ) and satisfying customers long term with items like powerful enough graphics to accomplish what you want is part of the business making more $$ in the long term.

 

[macintosh tech]

Has nothing to do with "greater than" or a sense of superiority.

I resent it when I have to pay more for my AppleCare because you lied to get Apple (and by extension the rest of its customers) to pay for damage that is your own fault.

Next time you leave your window open, I'll just stroll in and take your Mac. After all, you think it's OK to steal from me, so I should think it's OK to steal from you.

That is pretty funny, AppleCare hasn't increased in quite some time.

Also, not much evidence has been given for prices going up because of "stealing." The argument may be valid, but it is contingent upon whether or not 1: the "stealing" is significant enough and 2: it is in the companies interest to increase prices as such an increase could spawn more "stealing."

One last point, corporations are seen differently than individuals. People who would display certain moral characteristics towards individuals or even sub-cultures can easily discard such morals when dealing with a company. The difference is that a corporation is in it for the bottom line, the profit. Individuals generally have more concern for others in conjunction with their own bottom line. Further, companies have a history of screwing people all the time. For example, let us say the OP gets his issue fixed and pays. Apple now has an escape for future issues. Display problems? That could be related to the accidental damage you caused. Apple and other companies have taken these stances in the past and will in the future. These things are what allow for people to do things generally considered "immoral."

In closing, the problem is much more complex than most here will admit. Corporations have been placed on a different level in the social stratum, their actions have placed them on a level where people will screw them even when they are unprovoked.

 

[MacLadybug]

Better See A Genius...

So in a half-drunken stupor I dropped/threw my MBA on a mattress. The problem was that it was 'open', with the screen at its normal up position of maybe 135-degrees-or-so from the keyboard. Upon landing on the mattress, something in the hinge literally snapped (it sounded like a plasticky snap) and the screen went all the way backwards until it was flat - think 180 degree angle between keyboard and screen.

Nothing seems to be malfunctioning yet. It's working just as before, except now there's a bigger tilt-back angle for the screen... I can tilt it back literally as much as I want.

My question to you guys, assuming someone else has done this, is whether in the long run it's going to bite me in the ass. Because something definitely broke, I'm not sure whether what broke was 'important'.

And yeah I feel kinda dumb right now.

Your computer isn't a year old... it's under warranty as long as you don't drop it in a river. Take it in and let them tell you what's what. You'll sleep better. Good luck, I hope it's nothing critical... but do let us all know what happened.

 

[iHerzeleid]

Just say it was caused by a bad hinge. Apple seems to be replacing tons of these with bad hinges.

 

[dudup]

Just get it fixed. You can claim it's a manufacturing defect and they'll fix it for free. There are some tiny wires that run through the..... I believe right hinge, so why risk accidentally cutting those?

Smarty wordy strikes again!

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/490508/

 

[sanPietro98]

That is pretty funny, AppleCare hasn't increased in quite some time.

You're right. The price has not increased. But I think Apple has been pretty forgiving with some of what they cover under Apple Care -- as evidenced by some anecdotes in this and other threads.

But if too many people keep trying get "warranty or AppleCare" repairs for things that were blatantly not defects, it will change things. I'm not worried about the price going up because Apple rarely changes pricing, but they may get more strict on what they cover under warranty or accept as a "defect."

 

[mikey28]

Silly. Tell the truth

Wow. A whole thread about being honest. Why? I guess we take honesty for granted. Here we are actually having to convince others to be honest. Says a lot for the future.

 

[maokh]

i'd still blame it on a manufacturing defect.

my air did that when opening without hardly any pressure.

while i welcome to extra tilt, it has trouble staying fixed straight up under certain conditions.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

This is an absolutely fascinating thread; it reminds me (and this is intended as a compliment, not an insult) of the endless philosophical and moral debates we used to have in pubs during my time in college two decades ago (when pubs were places you met with, and sat talking to friends while having a few [or more] drinks, instead of the soulless mega-barns full of noise and heaving humanity that sem to ahve replaced them). I miss those conversations and debates; sometimes, they went on all night.

As for George Lucas, I doubt that basic morality ended with Star Wars, though that's where it might have started for some. While macintoshtech points out correctly that companies/corporations are seen differently to individuals, (even the companies that "do no evil"), I'm with Macladybug; the machine is still under warranty; go in and explain what happened. Great thread, though. Cheers and good luck.
MBP 15.4", 2.4 ghz, 2 GB RAM, 160 HDD
iPod classic 30 GB

 

[gcmexico]

sorry to hear that...doesn't sound good

 

[7031]

That happened to my Macbook Pro, except it was sat on which caused that, and the repair was around £520.

 

[Kittychan]

Broke my macbook screen, went to the applecare shop in Thailand, they were going to charge me 600-700 US dollars !! I went to Ebay and bought a macbook screen for 100 USD then paid 50 USD for the workman.

I think you may be able just to leave your macbookair as long as its working until it broke then go to apple store

 

[likemyorbs]

Nearly every time I read this forum I am astonished at how easy it seems for some people to BRAZENLY and out-right LIE in order to get something done for nothing.

He broke it--- go in, admit it and PAY the rightful amount to fix it.

Is that so hard? Sheeeeesh.

yeah it is so hard...as others have pointed out, there are different rules of ethics when it comes to corporations. theyre really not losing much money if any when they fix a computer for free, they have a whole bunch of these parts laying around. when you pay around $500 to fix something, not much of that goes to parts and labor, its just apple charging an absurd amount of money to fix something. so yeah, its ok to lie to corporations to get what you want, as much as i try and see your side of it, i just dont...

 

[likemyorbs]

You guys don't deserve a macbook air... Have no words for this...

With kind regards,
Bas

im glad everyone has you to tell them whos worthy of having a computer and whos not, what would we ever do without you?? youre ridiculous, no one would ever be saying something that stupid about a windows computer.

 

[PDE]

It's great news! I saw a macbook air at the apple store that could be put back 180degrees and I'd love to have one like that! Also, if it's just a small piece of plastic preventing that mobility, chances are that Apple artificially restricted the hinge so that the MBA would have the same limited mobility as the other Apple laptops. I'm sure we'll get proper hinge mobility back one day - there's no reason we should have these restrictions on a portable that is supposed to be flexible for a wide variety of situations. So: if it's working just keep it like that and enjoy what all PC laptops owners already enjoy!

 

[SnowLeopard2008]

It's great news! I saw a macbook air at the apple store that could be put back 180degrees and I'd love to have one like that! Also, if it's just a small piece of plastic preventing that mobility, chances are that Apple artificially restricted the hinge so that the MBA would have the same limited mobility as the other Apple laptops. I'm sure we'll get proper hinge mobility back one day - there's no reason we should have these restrictions on a portable that is supposed to be flexible for a wide variety of situations. So: if it's working just keep it like that and enjoy what all PC laptops owners already enjoy!

I don't know what you're talking about but I do know you must be a PC fanboy. My friend's toshiba laptop could only bend to a certain degree. Same with my dad's thinkpad.

 

[PDE]

Come on mate, go check out any PC laptop in the store and you'll see that they go back much further than any of Apple's laptops. That's not fantasy, it's fact. Apple's old powerbooks used to go back further too, until the aluminum series and Apple's decision to go with the current MBP hinge design. Together with the thinness of the computer, the hinges prevent more mobility in the bezel, but the MBA has a different design and actually would allow the bezel to go back much further. It seems like Apple prevented it so that there would be consistency across the models.

If I'm a PC fanboy for stating a fact, then so be it. Luuuuuv those PCs.!!!! Ha!