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I'mAMac

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Aug 28, 2006
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In a Mac box
over 7 gb
 

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mkrishnan

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Jan 9, 2004
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Not that I doubt you necessarily, but I would be very curious if anyone else who has the Aluminum iMac can try to confirm these speeds. They're really quite shocking. As others have said, they're shocking just from the standpoint that you're reading 2 gigabytes or more of information off DVD per minute. I've never heard of anything doing that with traditional DVDs.

David, again, not that I think you're lying or anything, but have you *watched* any of the ripped movies yet to make sure the rips went well?
 

stek1961

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Aug 10, 2007
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Just for the record (and if you had looked at the screenshots they would have confirmed this) it was an entire DVD in both cases.

It can't be right mate, I just copied a 650mb avi off a CD-R and it took about five mins.

Two have us done 7gb DVD's in 35 mins or so, something cannot be right unless you a superbus version of the iMac or ur DVD's are 7gb but with 300mb of data! Sparseimages!
 

erandall38

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Jun 24, 2007
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I just burned a movie that was almost 7.5 GB and it took 51 min on the new 2.4 Ghz iMac... why is this so much slower than my macbook? Anyone have any ideas to why it would be so dang slow?
 

Dimwhit

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Apr 10, 2007
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I just burned a movie that was almost 7.5 GB and it took 51 min on the new 2.4 Ghz iMac... why is this so much slower than my macbook? Anyone have any ideas to why it would be so dang slow?

My experience is that the faster the machine, the slower the MTR rip. My old G4/800 PowerMac can rip a movie faster than my 2.33 C2D MacBook Pro. There's no logical reason for that, but that's how it's been for me.
 

erandall38

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Jun 24, 2007
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In other instances I found that to be the same. But geez going from about 32 min a movie to 51!!! that is ridiculous.
There has to be something I am doing wrong or that the superdrive is doing wrong.
 

DoFoT9

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Jun 11, 2007
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My experience is that the faster the machine, the slower the MTR rip. My old G4/800 PowerMac can rip a movie faster than my 2.33 C2D MacBook Pro. There's no logical reason for that, but that's how it's been for me.

In other instances I found that to be the same. But geez going from about 32 min a movie to 51!!! that is ridiculous.
There has to be something I am doing wrong or that the superdrive is doing wrong.

if your running MTR 2.66 then it is only PPC, not optimized for intel! there is now MTR3.0 which is UB and runs like....farlap!
 

erandall38

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Jun 24, 2007
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if your running MTR 2.66 then it is only PPC, not optimized for intel! there is now MTR3.0 which is UB and runs like....farlap!

wow, that has got to make the biggest difference, thank you so much for that bit of info!!
I do not know why I never thought of that???

Hey I just went looking for MTR 3.0 and it is no where to be found, do you happen to have a link to where I can get it?
 

sushi

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Jul 19, 2002
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ripping to computer is EXACTLY the same as watching the actual dvd..
mode...most likely full extraction (with ACCROS)
I am not sure why you are answering me, since my comments/questions were directed to the OP, but since you asked:

Ripping to the computer is not always EXACTLY the same as watching the actual DVD.

Why do I say this? Because I had this happen a couple of times. Not sure why, but my rip times where short and only part of the DVD ended up on the HD. And yes, MTR gave me the same message that the extract was complete with no errors.

Now I have no idea why this occurred, but I was able to solve the issue by using another Mac program for one and a PC app for another.

Please note, that this issue is very rare but it has happened to me on more than one occasion, that is why I mention it.
 

DoFoT9

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Jun 11, 2007
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I am not sure why you are answering me, since my comments/questions were directed to the OP, but since you asked:

Ripping to the computer is not always EXACTLY the same as watching the actual DVD.

Why do I say this? Because I had this happen a couple of times. Not sure why, but my rip times where short and only part of the DVD ended up on the HD. And yes, MTR gave me the same message that the extract was complete with no errors.

Now I have no idea why this occurred, but I was able to solve the issue by using another Mac program for one and a PC app for another.

Please note, that this issue is very rare but it has happened to me on more than one occasion, that is why I mention it.

im not sure why im answering this either, but he said it was an exact copy.

"RIPPING" with MTR on any mac is esentially the same as copying the whole contents of the dvd to the computer, apart from TWO little things.

MTR gives you options, as your probably aware, to do "full disk extraction" "main extraction" etcetcetc. this would effectively make what you are ripping smaller or equal to the original size of the disk.

(the other is that it allows you to remove the locks that stop you from copying, we dont care about that tho.)

however. whatever you are ripping "full, main menu only" extractions it will still be the EXACTLY (give or take a few bits) the same quality, guarantee you that.

the reason for the different rip times could been because you have selected different rip type. you may have only selected the main menu extraction, or it could have simply been because an error occured. im not sure.
 

sushi

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Jul 19, 2002
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im not sure why im answering this either, but he said it was an exact copy.
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I sure wish that you would read my post.

So let me try stating it a different way.

On a few occasions, MTR has failed to rip the entire DVD contents and yet, MTR gave me the message that the extraction is complete with no errors.

When this happened, there were no indications that it was not a perfect rip except for fast (unrealistic) rip times. When I watched the ripped version, it froze, or only played part of the movie. And yes, the size figures were correct in the Get Info dialog.

So no in my experience, MTR does not always (as in 100%) rip a DVD to the HD as an exact copy. Bottom line, while MTR is a good app, it fails on occasion.
 

DoFoT9

macrumors P6
Jun 11, 2007
17,586
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London, United Kingdom
I sure wish that you would read my post.

So let me try stating it a different way.

On a few occasions, MTR has failed to rip the entire DVD contents. And when this occurred, MTR gave me the message that the extraction is complete with no errors.

When this happened, there were no indications that it was not a perfect rip except for fast (unrealistic) rip times. When I watched the ripped version, it froze, or only played part of the movie. And yes, the size figures were correct in the Get Info dialog.

So no in my experience, MTR does not always (as in 100%) rip a DVD to the HD as an exact copy. Bottom line, while MTR is a good app, it fails on occasion.

ok ok.
i now understand you. im sorry for not getting it the first time. so there was an error. programs can be like that, memory leak? bad dvd?

have you tried using the newest (universal binary) verison of MTR??? i suppose it would be better in alot of ways to the older version..

once again sorry for mis-reading your post
 

sushi

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Jul 19, 2002
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ok ok.
i now understand you. im sorry for not getting it the first time. so there was an error. programs can be like that, memory leak? bad dvd?

have you tried using the newest (universal binary) verison of MTR??? i suppose it would be better in alot of ways to the older version..

once again sorry for mis-reading your post
No worries.

My concern is with the OP.

Are his rip times realistic? Me thinks it is too fast. Yet he is getting indicators that the rip is completed correctly and the files size is normal.

That is why I was sharing what happened with me. I forget which DVD it was, but I ended up having to do it on my PC because MTR did not work.

To answer your question, I have not tried the new version of MTR since most of my work is done on my PowerMac. Old I know, but it works. ;)

One of these days I will give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation.
 

aLoC

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Nov 10, 2006
726
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Could the speed be explained by the hardware video encoding/decoding on the ATI chip? If the app is using the Quicktime framework, it could be automagically leveraging the hardware.
 

DeuceDeuce

macrumors 6502a
Aug 8, 2007
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San Dimas, CA
Im getting the same results but how do I get the file to actually play? Maybe I have the wrong program, I just want something that I can now play on my computer or Apple TV.

I know Im a noob but one looking for some help. Thanks in advance!
 

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Craiger

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Im getting the same results but how do I get the file to actually play? Maybe I have the wrong program, I just want something that I can now play on my computer or Apple TV.

I know Im a noob but one looking for some help. Thanks in advance!

Go to the app "dvd player" then file- open dvd media, then find the video_ts for the movie that you want to watch. hope this helps.

I tried ripping the movie 300 last night and it took 27 mins on my new 2.4 ghz imac.
 
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