Data plan required to send MMS.

[yg17]

and apparently you didn't read what I was responding to. We're both right. Apple didn't plan on people not having data. Nor should they have that option as a data plan IS required. But it's not just Apple. It's also the connection to AT&T. Whatever handshaking is going on via the iPhone and AT&T's servers is different than what goes on with dumbphones apparently.

But again - there's no "blame" as a data plan is required for an iPhone. Those "opting" to break that agreement do so at their own "peril"

I don't think it's handshaking. It's all the same type of connection. If you try to send an MMS from your iPhone with no data plan, it's my understanding that the iPhone won't even make an attempt to connect to the data network and send, it'll just crap out right from the start since it sees you don't have a data connection. As far as WiFi...I don't think any phone can send an MMS over WiFi. It's probably a security thing, providers don't want their MMSC accessible from the general internet, just from their data connections only. It's a general rule of network security, if it doesn't have to be accessible from the internet, don't make it accessible from the internet.

But as far as data sent and receive they are one in the same. So AT&T and Apple should have set it up to let me receive voice messages via MMS but not VV messages without data?

No. Apple shouldn't have to make it so you can send MMS without data since the data plan is required and it is assumed anyone who has an iPhone will have the data plan. Of course some people will try to get around that, but Apple shouldn't have to do the extra work to accomodate them. Want MMS and VV on your iPhone? Get a data plan. Sounds fair enough to me.

 

[ChaSSe]

You have to have AT LEAST a data Pay Per use feature to send/receive MMS.

 

[Zimmy68]

I've never started an MMS thread and I never will again. Onward...

I've updated and now have the camera icon but MMS fails every time. It doesn't go past 10%.

So TheSpaz was wrong. It doesn't use the same data transfer method as SMS.

Can you change the title to:

Data Plan required for the iPhone?

How do you get an AT&T contract without the data plan???

 

[Tilt]

This having to have data not having to have data problems was so confusing to me when I joined AT&T a couple weeks ago.

We had no data plan on T-mobile but had blackberry flips and were able to send and receive mms messages.

I asked the question at the AT&T store when I added 3 additional lines on top of my iphone lines and that is where the confusion started.

Just like others mentioned. You have to have a data plan activated if you have a internet enabled device(or any device so it seems whether it can connect to the internet or not) to use mms even though mms messages are counted as text messages. If you de-activate the data option on the line users can't send/receive mms messages.

This part has nothing to do with mms but i need to vent a little sorry:

So if they (pne of the other 3 lines with no data plan) by mistake open a web browser the line is charged $2 right away for the first 2 megs of data then a per meg charge after that.

Thank god i have 3 responsible adults for my additional lines.

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

Can you change the title to:

Data Plan required for the iPhone?

How do you get an AT&T contract without the data plan???

No. Because data is not required for the iPhone. If it was AT&T wouldn't have taken it off my account for me.

And to those who think I'm cheating AT&T or skirting my responsibility because I'm not paying for something I don't need, get over yourself. You know nothing about me or the money I make so why you think you can judge me or anybody else who chooses the path I have is beyond me.

 

[samcraig]

This part has nothing to do with mms but i need to vent a little sorry:

So if they (pne of the other 3 lines with no data plan) by mistake open a web browser the line is charged $2 right away for the first 2 megs of data then a per meg charge after that.

Thank god i have 3 responsible adults for my additional lines.

Yes it's good you have responsible adults. However - since a data plan is required for smart phones on at&t - any charges you get for breaking that agreement I can't see any objection.

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

Yes it's good you have responsible adults. However - since a data plan is required for smart phones on at&t - any charges you get for breaking that agreement I can't see any objection.

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[samcraig]

No. Because data is not required for the iPhone. If it was AT&T wouldn't have taken it off my account for me.

And to those who think I'm cheating AT&T or skirting my responsibility because I'm not paying for something I don't need, get over yourself. You know nothing about me or the money I make so why you think you can judge me or anybody else who chooses the path I have is beyond me.

lostprophet - please do not misunderstand my reply to you. I am not judging you or your financial situation. I personally don't care what you do with the phone or your service. However - if you have an iPhone and choose to not have that data plan - you have no basis for a complaint about any services tied to a data plan. MMS is treated as data. SMS is not. If you now couldn't get calls or use SMS, and were paying for those services - gripe away. But you are not paying for data, so anything data dependent isn't really "fair" grounds. That's all

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

lostprophet - please do not misunderstand my reply to you. I am not judging you or your financial situation. I personally don't care what you do with the phone or your service. However - if you have an iPhone and choose to not have that data plan - you have no basis for a complaint about any services tied to a data plan. MMS is treated as data. SMS is not. If you now couldn't get calls or use SMS, and were paying for those services - gripe away. But you are not paying for data, so anything data dependent isn't really "fair" grounds. That's all

I misunderstood nothing. My post you quoted was in reply you your snide, elitist attitude that can be seen in pretty much every thread you're a part of. But I digress.

I wasn't complaining. I was informing. It's not like my feelings were hurt when I found out. If you see me saying AT&T sucks as complaining then whatever. Everybody's entitled to their opinion.

 

[Tilt]

Yes it's good you have responsible adults. However - since a data plan is required for smart phones on at&t - any charges you get for breaking that agreement I can't see any objection.

I think I understand what your saying. The point I was trying to make is that I had a smartphone on t-mobile with no data plan and I also believe internet was disabled since it would tell me to call customer service to add it. But I was able to send and receive mms messages.