high res audio needs to be in at least ONE of their mobile products considering price and reputation, with 256+ storage option. cause it not happening on ip7
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iPod dedicated music iPod, PLEASE APPLE!!!!
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My setup...128GB iPhone 7 Plus as primary device. (Camera, phone, internet, blah, blah blah...). I have a separate non active 128 iPhone 7 I use as a dedicated MP3 player. 5000 songs stored on it and I still have 60GB free. I'm content.
The fact that people are buying "internet based phones" is the main reason the iPod sales is declining.
People in general don't want to carry a lot of devices. It's the same reason why point-n-shoot cameras are dying. People can use their smartphones for those functions, and they are good enough.
Want a huge capacity iPod? Easy. Buy a cheap Android phone + an SD card.
I don't think it's a bad idea, but is is necessary? I repurposed my iPhone 6 as a dedicated 128GB "iPod" back in August. My phone keeps a subset of music on it for when I don't want to carry the additional device.
it's definitely not necessary for apple, but i look at it like this. you can get a mac pro, MacBook, MacBook air, or MacBook pro. throw in an iPad or iPad pro also. considering the argument is "only 1 device". why wouldn't that be the case on the macs? i know there is a small market for them but there's probably a small market for mac pro also, but it's an option for power users. i just want apple to treat the iPod the same way. i know it's not the flagship product anymore but it is what brought apple back. and why not have an iPod pro for us music power users. the bottom line i know it comes down to money and profit. most people under 30 is what apple music is today. but people like me 35 and over, we like owning our music and we have about 10-15 years before we start to not worry about it anyway. so for the next ten years there is a market for an iPod pro. not much but small. like mac pros. and i'm not saying all 35 and over are like me but that's were most of us are. people under 30 can't seem to live without internet. but me i don't need it just give me my music. and like i said in first post folks are still gonna have an internet devise also. and i'm not saying make it internet free becuase that would be a plus. just a high res audio player with the best DAC it can offer with plenty of storage. because i've heard the DAC on the 256 iPhone 7 and it's not near the DAC's in the iPod classics. it's like listening to a 7.1 channel home theatre receiver but any audiophile knows the best music sound comes from 2.1 stereo receiver. as far as the two compared.
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Completely agree with all you've said, problem is people like you and me are just listening to our libraries on our devices and that's that. Apple want a monthly payment out of you, like everyone does these days. Greed wins.
Is this a joke? The solution is simple... Buy a maxed out iPhone, go into iTunes, highlight your entire library and drag it into a playlist, sync the playlist to your phone, download the playlist (aka your library) to your phone over WiFi.
I have over 20k songs in my library and with a 256GB phone, still have more than enough space left.
No need to bring back an antiquated product to satisfy a VAST minority of Apple's customers.
I have over 20k songs in my library and with a 256GB phone, still have more than enough space left.
No need to bring back an antiquated product to satisfy a VAST minority of Apple's customers.
1. Why would I want my entire library which is organised into 100 playlists in 1 playlist?
2. Have you seen the price of a 256GB iphone, even second hand?
3. The battery life on an iphone is nowhere near what my classic runs for.
SOME of us love having the Internet in our pocket WITHOUT the phone. I don't even CARRY a phone 90% of the time (I have a nine year old flip phone for emergencies and long trips), but if I am at home or in WIFI spots, I have email AND Internet AND my music and my videos.
I'll tell ya what, rebrand the iPod Touch as the iPad Micro, and I'm good. Then iPod can remain a music platform.
But does it retain the actual playlists I've created, not just the artist, album etc? This is very important to me.
The cheapest 256GB iphone on ebay is well over £500. Double the price of an SSD equipped classic.
I'd still bet that the battery would need charging more than my classic, but will admit I don't have the facts on this one.
Why wouldn't it? Assuming you are syncing to iTunes any playlists created there would be synced to any Apple device plugged in? Assuming one has enough space of course...
Although music - especially on board music - uses far less battery than any other task on an iPhone pretty sure you are correct in an iPod lasting much much longer...
An iPod Classic with an iFlash installed can run for over 30 hours, I don't think even an iPhone on airplane mode could last that long. Plus with the right model you could put 1TB of storage in there!
I'd love it if Apple made a new iPod Classic, but I'd want video support too. I'm currently rebuilding my 6th gen 160GB Classic, the innards are fine (aside from the battery) but the casing is pretty tatty from the last two times I replaced the battery. Unfortunately the 6th gen can only go up to 128GB with an iFlash so I'm having to stick with the hard drive. 5th and 7th gen models can go much higher!
Why? You could get an iPod Touch 6 for a fraction of the price. There is no need to ever update it if just playing music on it.
Alternatively, you could get an iPhone SE 128 GB for much less money than a 2nd iPhone 7.
Sssshhhhh!!!!
I have stock in Apple and consumers like that are great for the bottom line.
But you don't need to stream with Apple Music, or Spotify I believe. You just download it to your device. I use it everyday in this fashion at work.
Now I understand why you would still want an iPod I'm just pointing out Apple Music isn't purely streaming.
I know plenty of people who never used to pay a penny for music are now Apple Music or Spotify customers just because it's so easy.
Yes it is all about money but people being paid for their art rather than it being torrented isn't exactly a bad thing.
This isn't me implying you were torrenting yours by the way.
If apple were to release a new iPod I would love an Apple Music enabled shuffle. If it had to be connected to iTunes once a month to allow continued access to the music on it that would be fine.
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I'm in ! Works on airplanes wo/ wi-fi or streaming. All those ripped cd's are always with you (not to mention all purchased). Syncs (in the old fashioned sense of the word) via wireless...If they wanted it to, it could be size of early nano...a noisy click wheel !, and ...gasp...a phone jack for all the headphones we've been buying for the last 20 years. 512 gig...choice of colors (of course)....stays in briefcase at non TSA checkpoints. R&D would consist of a guy who can draw the case and pick components from apple catalog ! $169.95 Retail ($189.95 for the (R)ed version.
I've since started using Google Play Music - it's free to upload up to 50,000 of your own songs to it, will sync with my iTunes library, and I've just slotted a 128GB SD card in my S7 Edge to download my playlists. Apart from using iTunes to organise my library I'm done with Apple.
I would love Apple to remake the iPod "Classic" with the amazing scroll wheel and same physical look and size. Just put a retina display, SSD inside and lightning connector. Keep the headphone jack and add bluetooth and Airplay. Market them with a few different SSD sizes (64, 128, 256, 512) for various peoples needs. The iPod could also double as an Amp/DAC for headphones (something the Fiio players do) for those listening to music from their computer at home with good headphones.
Streaming only works well if you have a good WiFi connection. But what if you're far away from the big city at your cottage or even just live in a small rural town? Cellular connections won't be so good in those areas if it's there at all. With Apple now killing off the Nano and shuffle it seems they're really zeroing in on the streaming music scene. I can see them eventually getting rid of buying music and only streaming. Yet I do recall Steve years ago saying that people want to own their music. I am one of those people. I still buy CDs and do occasionally DL from iTunes Store. With streaming music there is more power than ever for the music companies and providers like Apple to decide what people listen to. Songs and albums can be added or removed at any given time (same for movies and shows on services like Apple or Netflix) which means they decide what you can or cannot listen to or watch. That's like going into a person's house and swapping blu-ray/DVDs and CDs off their shelves. I want to own my music and movies and play them whenever and where ever I want to.
Anyways that's my rant.
Streaming only works well if you have a good WiFi connection. But what if you're far away from the big city at your cottage or even just live in a small rural town? Cellular connections won't be so good in those areas if it's there at all. With Apple now killing off the Nano and shuffle it seems they're really zeroing in on the streaming music scene. I can see them eventually getting rid of buying music and only streaming. Yet I do recall Steve years ago saying that people want to own their music. I am one of those people. I still buy CDs and do occasionally DL from iTunes Store. With streaming music there is more power than ever for the music companies and providers like Apple to decide what people listen to. Songs and albums can be added or removed at any given time (same for movies and shows on services like Apple or Netflix) which means they decide what you can or cannot listen to or watch. That's like going into a person's house and swapping blu-ray/DVDs and CDs off their shelves. I want to own my music and movies and play them whenever and where ever I want to.
Anyways that's my rant.
Well, I've wibbled this before, but I'll wibble it again. If you've got a classical collection, you've spent hours and days getting your metadata in place and standardized because without it, you can't find a damned thing -- there are too many classical "standards" for tagging. I just bought one of the 128GB iPod Touches because if you've spent the energy doing that, it really needs to be local.
Streaming classical doesn't seem to be an option, because they just toss random movements in random orders from random pieces.
Streaming classical doesn't seem to be an option, because they just toss random movements in random orders from random pieces.
How so? There are playlists like that but you can get albums on streaming on specific symphonies, operas etc.