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Defense of a 7 Incher...

Ciclismo said:
I don't want to see a 7 inch iPad, and here's why; Economies of Scale. The introduction of another iPad size will nopt increase the number of sales markedly, in my opinion, as many who would buy the smaller one would have bought the original if there was no choice. I don't see it attracting enough new purchases to overcome the increased cost of production.

There are also other costs that can quickly become a burden when you start adding new SKUs to a current product line-up. Costs that must be recovered from the consumer.

I would instead like to see the iPhone gain a centimeter and a half of screen real-estate. This would make it that much larger than what it is now.
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And why are you sop worried bout Apple profits? You think like AAPL shareholder and not like a consumer. People want different size. That's it. Nobody said that production of current size should stop. Can everybody have what they want?
 
I think 7-inch would be a sweet spot for a lot of people, especially if the screen was upgraded to Retina DPI levels. Not that I would kick the 10-inch out of bed for eating crackers.
 
I would have thought most people would have preferred 10"s. I guess when you start playing around with 10"s some may find it a little uncomfortable. So why not make it 5-7" as that generally seems to be closer to the normal.






Personally I've always been about girth rather than length anyway ;)
 
A 7" iPad with the same resolution as the existing iPad is fine for me.

Though any iPad would be fine, I'm waiting to see what iOS 4 runs like (as I have a 3GS and it's sluggish in places)
 
For typing i like the current size, for holding it one handed while standing on commuter train i would think 7 would be sweet. But than agian if i wanted smaller i would have gone with a kindle.
 
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Computer history shows customers prefer bigger monitors...the only exception to this is if a smaller monitor drastically increases portability. Desktop monitors keep getting bigger, laptops hit a sweet spot in a smaller size because portability is taken into consideration. ISA 7" ipad more portable than a 9.7". IMO the answer is no because the next step in portability is pocket sized. If they want something bigger than an iPhone I agree that is good but it need to be small enough to fit in a normal sized purse or a pair of cargo shorts...the biggest that can be IMO is 5.5"
 
I don't know. 7 inches is good, but 10 inches is enormous! I mean, some might argue it's too big, but I say the bigger the better. ;)

(Sorry, this thread needed that.)
 
lilo777 said:
And why are you sop worried bout Apple profits? You think like AAPL shareholder and not like a consumer. People want different size. That's it. Nobody said that production of current size should stop. Can everybody have what they want?
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I guess you have only a limited understanding of capitalist business practices, so I will put it in clear text: Apple will not sacrifice profits, but instead pass the extra cost on to the consumer as long as the consumer can bear this. Considering that there is no viable alternative, consumers will have no choice but to pay for any increase, or not buy an item at all (and we all know the latter will not happen).
 
No no no,
The true defense of the 7 incher is this

It's not how deep you fish, it's how you wiggle the worm.

There is the proper joke this thread was missing
 
I'm still on the fence on the question of 7" or 10". I don't have any real problem with the current size of the iPad. In actual fact I positively like the fact that I've got a decent amount of space to use. However packing most of the same features into a handier format is also an intriguing idea. I think I'd have to hold and use a 7" iPad before I could make a decision.
 
I can see why some would like a slightly smaller iPad but my biggest concern would be web browsing. Even if it has the same resolution as the current iPad, clicking on smallish links (such as flipping pages in a multi-page forum thread) would often require zooming the screen so that you could accurately hit the correct link. This is an annoyance for me when using an iPhone, it seems I am always zooming and panning around web pages to navigate. With the current size iPad I rarely need to zoom while browsing because links are usually just large enough to hit accurately.

P.S. I am not at all convinced that a smaller iPad would be cheaper, in fact it might be more expensive to miniaturize even more...or the battery life could be badly compromised because it would have to be smaller and the CPU would still work just as hard as the current iPad.
 
Crosbie said:
To veer wildly back on topic for a moment:

Those wanting a smaller bezel are misguided, I think. We were all a bit surprised when we saw the wide bezel in that first keynote, but I totally see the need for it, having used the pad for a while.

It's just exactly the width of a thumb, and you need that width to hold the damn thing with, without activating the screen.

Now I'm sure one day they may be able to solve the problem of unintended gestures with software or hardware (recognising the extra pressure when you're touching to hold?) but for now you need that margin.
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You can just simply disable touch function for certain part of the screen, say the area where your thumb might accidentally touch if there is less bezel or even no bezel in extreme case, maby just the width of current bezel, no fancy gestures needed, simple software configeration
 
lvyelion said:
You can just simply disable touch function for certain part of the screen, say the area where your thumb might accidentally touch if there is less bezel or even no bezel in extreme case, maby just the width of current bezel, no fancy gestures needed, simple software configeration
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True, but that'll be confusing when you suddenly want to touch an area and have it respond - a link at the edge of a webpage, or part of a game.

It isn't straightforward to tell when a touch is intentional or not. Though, as with 'wrist detection' on touchpads, it's not necessarily going to be impossible forever.
 
The more sizes the better off the platform can be as far as I'm concerned. I have a 15" MBP, a 10" iPad and a whatever-inch iPhone 4. I use all three daily. The MBP gets used the most for producing information, the iPad is the biggest consumer (web surfing and reading books mainly) and the iPhone is the pinch hitter and utility player, in addition to being my phone.

There's always room for another Apple device, as long as it is of a quality build.
 
I'd buy one and I have an iPad and an Ipod touch. The key is portability. I'm not so sure 7 inches is the ideal size, perhaps 6 would be - it depends on the shape but it has to fit in a pocket so I don't have to carry it around in a bag and tie up use of one arm.
If the new device does not have GPS and 3G then that's a deal breaker right there.
Apple has two ways to go, either make the new Touch more like an iPad or leave it as a heavily crippled iPhone type device and come out with another device for the iPad line- the iPad mini.
 
feflower said:
Here are the reasons I want a 7 incher.

There is a good reason for this post: one of them is raise these issues so please bring up the critiques of a 7 incher.

Please understand that I am a grad student who is looking for a device for fieldwork and academic work, as well as personal use. I have resisted getting an iPad or iPhone and I am looking for something the size of a paperback because:

--I am looking for something less conspicuous. Call me self-conscious, but I still feel it is pretentious pulling something as big as the iPad in public--here or in the field.
--I prefer something I can hold comfortably in one hand. And input, navigate with the other.
--Prefer something smaller and less intimidating for recording interviews with people.
--As I get older, I am getting lazier. I want be able to pull something out easily out of my jacket pocket, or messenger bag.
--As I get older, my grip on things is not what it used to be. I know I will drop an iPad a few times.
--Might be a little cheaper (therefore if dropped and broken, I might consider buying another one)
--Big enough to read, small enough to be conveniently carried, pulled out, stored away (trust me, I'm really lazy--I know I will balk at pulling out my ipad to change a song, jot or record a memo/note)
--Future of computing: touchscreen and voice dictation/navigation. No need for a keyboard.

I truly think that there are a lot of people who would prefer a smaller size:

Researchers like me
Children (or adults with children)
People who want a glorified eReader.

I just think the paperback/pocketbook size was a standard in publishing for a reason….
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You need a UMPC device like the OQO. It's a shame the company didn't survive the recession but there are still devices to be had on ebay. 5" screen, full windows OS, and there are even guides for installing OSX on an OQO.

Only drawback is there is no support for the devices beyond a small user community on oqotalk.com.

The device was really ahead of its time. I still have mine but since getting the iPad I'm hardly using the OQO anymore.

Sandy
 
feflower said:
Folks,

Seems like there is a lot of people who don't understand the desire for a 7" iPad/iPhone/iTouch.

I have been waiting and waiting for one (almost jumped to the new Kindle).
I believe there is a lot of other people who would prefer this size over the current offerings.

Please write down why you prefer this size and what you would use it for.
Here I go first:

1) Reading PDFs while commuting
2) Inputing Data on my fieldtrips
3) Recording Voice Memos
4) Listening to music.

My Laptop has become my desktop. Now I want a computer for the road.
iPad too big to pull out in public. iPhone--can't read more than phone numbers.
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I think the problem you’re going to have on this forum is that almost everyone here already has an Ipad. They love them and would never trade it in for the world. So of course, they are a little biased whether they mean to be or not.
I want and Ipad but havent gotten around to buying one yet as I wanted my IP4 first. i read about this model and it piqued my interest. I'll mainly be using it to surf at home. My first thought when i read about the orginal Ipad was that "i've got a desktop. Why do i need an ipad for?" and when I read about the Ipad mini I thought "Why woudl i need a smaller ipad when i can just get a normal size?" but i'm not gonig to make the same mistake twice. I wanted an ipad after playing with one. I think i'll wait till i get to hold an ipad mini before laying judgement on it.


Carlos
 
mgamber said:
I was just reading about a possible OQO model 3. http://www.oqo.cc/ Unfortunately the projected price is (get this) $4700! No one they didn't survive in the states.
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This company is a former partner of OQO but they do not have anything to do with the original owners and do not own the IP. See discussion here: http://www.oqotalk.com/index.php/topic,4945.0.html

US OQO's were never priced that high. You can pick one up for under $1000 for a model 02, just under $3000 for an OQO 2+. This is the model that was never officially released just before OQO's demise. There were only a few test models released so that's why the price is so high - rare item.
 
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