I feel the iOS 10 only hides the stock apps in iOS 10 and doesn't actually delete them. There is no extra storage free even after deleting/hiding the apps. Do you guys agree?
The problem seems to be that so many of the apps are so integrated (baked) into iOS. It would require a LARGE overall of iOS and the apps and possible some reduction in features or functions.
I agree with you buddy. But would've loved to get some free space by deleting those annoying apps.
Then why the "download" can be finished instantly and do not require internet connection?No, it deletes the entire app (folder), it's just that the app takes negligible amount of space.
Podcasts is 11.3MB for me, for example.
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Then why the "download" can be finished instantly and do not require internet connection?
Yeah I load App Store with internet connection but then I remove sim and turn off wifi. Theoretically speaking no matter which app I want to download it should immediately tell me to connect. But downloading previously "deleted" system apps CAN be downloaded without internet connection.how do you load the app store without internet connection?
Deleting the app does only hide them from the home screen.
See this this Apple document about what it does: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204221
There's also a podcast with Craig Federighi talking about some of the app hiding: http://daringfireball.net/thetalkshow/2016/06/17/ep-158
No, we should say apple is contradicting themselves."When you remove a built-in app from your Home screen, you also remove any related user data and configuration files. "
You're contradicting yourself.
I feel the iOS 10 only hides the stock apps in iOS 10 and doesn't actually delete them. There is no extra storage free even after deleting/hiding the apps. Do you guys agree?
I agree with you buddy. But would've loved to get some free space by deleting those annoying apps.
I am not convinced that this is the case. Apple is just not committed to this. Hiding apps is a dirty and quick solution and that is something Apple does rarely.
You do realize that the basis of iOS was built from having these apps integrated with the OS, right? I mean, the first iPhone didn't even have an app store. The frameworks that comprise the apps are major ones shared with the OS, that's why actually removing them frees up so little space. Allowing you to do what you feel you've been cheated out of would require a complete re-write of the entire OS from the ground up to free up 150mb. That's why it hasn't been done.
I feel the iOS 10 only hides the stock apps in iOS 10 and doesn't actually delete them. There is no extra storage free even after deleting/hiding the apps. Do you guys agree?
You do realize that the basis of iOS was built from having these apps integrated with the OS, right? I mean, the first iPhone didn't even have an app store. The frameworks that comprise the apps are major ones shared with the OS, that's why actually removing them frees up so little space. Allowing you to do what you feel you've been cheated out of would require a complete re-write of the entire OS from the ground up to free up 150mb. That's why it hasn't been done.
The way they handled this is very smart. Preserves the integrity of the OS, but gives some users the impression of the experience they wanted. There is no legitimate need to "free up space", so hiding them and easily reactivating them is a good solution.
But, but, I need that sub 150mb for 10 extra photos!
You feel that because that's literally all it does. It hides the app and removes any user data tied to the app.
You wouldn't even gain a lot of space. Definitely not even close to what you're thinking. It was either Eddie Cue or Craig Federighi that said all the removable stock apps allowed to be "removed" add up to a total of just under 150mb. That's like 12-13 Live Photos. Who cares, about a measly 150mb. Besides, iOS 10 actually takes up less space than iOS 9. So there is your few photos worth of space you're complaining about.
If the stock apps on iOS 10 are like they have been on iOS 1-9, there is no recovering of space beyond user saved data for those apps. The stock apps live on a different read only partition on iOS devices. When people complain that they want Stocks deleted to recover space, they fail to realize that even if Stocks was deleted, the amount of space usable won't change because Stocks lives on an entirely different partition whose space does not appear in iTunes or Settings and it is read only making it impossible to delete the app without a jailbreak.