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I do have full 3G (at least that's what the phone indicates), it's just that the speed is aweful.

Sorry OP, didn't mean to hijack the thread...

If the Dell Mini 5 is anything like it's bigger brothers, it will be a fun gadget to own. I've got both Android 2.0 and Windows 7 on my Mini 10V (2GB upgrade).
Grab the free app from speedtest.net. I'm getting 1062k down/147k up in Avondale.

I'd played with a Droid and the user experience was okay. I just don't see the point of getting a tablet device that's barely bigger than the phones. But to each their own.
 
Are you actually considering an iPad? Clearly not.

Given your sig, and your rants about Apple the great evil Stalinist empire, you are only interested in Android devices, so an iPad is nothing you would consider at all. You have a clearly stated intent to push your anti Apple pro Android agenda.

Yeah, me and my anti-Apple agenda.. you really found me out! I better hide this Macbook I am typing this response on, and all the other Apple products I have in my household! :rolleyes:

But yeah, I am absolutely anti-Apple when it comes to their iPad/iPhoneOS "closed computing" model. I think it's bad for us as consumers, and I make no secret of my views. I clearly stated it as one of my reasons to preferring Mini over iPad.

Was I ever considering iPad? Absolutely. that's why I still read this forum. And if it wasn't for Apple's locked down App Store model that they decided to marry an Ipad to.. I may have still bought one.

But I don't know how any of this is relevant to the discussion we are having.. Can we just discuss these things based on their own merits?
 
[*]Front and Back cameras - video chat

In all honesty, how often do you really think you'll use the videochat function? Considering that you'd have to hold it out at arms length to be normal-looking to the other person, do you really think that it's a necessary function or do you just have tech featuritis?
 
In all honesty, how often do you really think you'll use the videochat function? Considering that you'd have to hold it out at arms length to be normal-looking to the other person, do you really think that it's a necessary function or do you just have tech featuritis?

Here we go again.. I think this argument has been hashed out ad nauseum here. There are plenty of ways to do light video conferencing on hand-held devices! Would I use it for for business video calls? No. Would I use for quick chats with my kids while I am having lunch at Starbucks? Heck yes.

I don't know what functions are "necessary" or "non-necessary" to you.. But I like the idea of having the capability to do this sort of thing. Just because Jobs decided to hold out on offering Video Chat in iPad v1 - doesn't make this function useless or unnecessary.
 
Here we go again.. I think this argument has been hashed out ad nauseum here. There are plenty of ways to do light video conferencing on hand-held devices! Would I use it for for business video calls? No. Would I use for quick chats with my kids while I am having lunch at Starbucks? Heck yes.

I don't know what functions are "necessary" or "non-necessary" to you.. But I like the idea of having the capability to do this sort of thing. Just because Jobs decided to hold out on offering Video Chat in iPad v1 - doesn't make this function useless or unnecessary.

No one should tell you (on a forum) what you should or shouldn't need. It's a personal preference. And if you want video chatting, then you want it.

The same people who say there's no need for iChat and a camera will be praising the feature when it's available in a future version. Or will be complaining that they have to buy yet another iPad because they could have had that feature in version one or two. It's amusing.

I can understand someone not needing the feature - but that doesn't mean that same person should say no one else needs it to - or campaign against the feature as some are here.

ETA: If Gen 1 came with a camera - would those that say it's not needed actually say "I don't know why it has a camera - it's not needed" or would they say "Look at all the features it has - yay iChat" or nothing at all. I believe it would be b or c. No one would be complaining that the device had a camera if it HAD the camera. So why complain when people suggest they would have liked to have one? Makes little sense.

If it had a camera - would you NOT buy one?
 
That would be extremely annoying for anyone around you.

More annoying than you talking to your boy/girlfriend on cell phone? Doubt it.

Anyway, it was just an example. There are plenty of other scenarios where video chat capability on a mobile device comes handy. Say I am shopping for a couch and want to send my wife a live video feed of different couches I see in a furniture store as I walk the isles.

You see.. once a technology becomes available - people find plenty of good uses for it. It's always good to have a capability to do something, than not.
 
More annoying than you talking to your boy/girlfriend on cell phone? Doubt it.

Anyway, it was just an example. There are plenty of other scenarios where video chat capability on a mobile device comes handy. Say I am shopping for a couch and want to send my wife a live video feed of different couches I see in a furniture store as I walk the isles.

You see.. once a technology becomes available - people find plenty of good uses for it. It's always good to have a capability to do something, than not.

Well said. Any argument against a feature can easily be said about the device as a whole.

No one NEEDS and iPad. You've lived your whole life without one and could continue to live your whole life without one.

Which makes arguing about whether or not someone NEEDS a function silly
 
Why can't you have both? I mean why does the ipad have to be your only option. To me it seems like people know the ipad is the best choose and they don't like it because they want true options but the compines just don't provide that
 
I hope to see Dell 10 or 12" version as the 5" doesn't really do much for me as I already own an iPhone. It will be interesting to see what version of Android they launch with and how well it integrates into the Android store.

Last i heard the Dell mini 5 was to launch 2010 Holidays? I guess it will give me time to play with the iPad and see if the Dell offers anything similar in size for the price. The Engadget review of the one they purchased showed promise imo as having a pretty smooth UI from the speed it showed with V1.6. This is one of the other "tablets" I will continue to follow.
 
I travel to Europe a lot for business. Almost every phone available there has a front facing camera for video chat. Nobody ever uses it.

If I want to video chat, it will be on a device I can set down, not one I have to hold in front of my face.


I dont get the love affair with the Dell mini. Its screen is only a little bigger than most phones. The large 10 inch iPad screen will allow for a far better reading, browsing, gaming, experience.
 
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