Chose the dell because of their next day pixel guarantee and their customer service.
Just switched over from dell u2711 and had those for three years no problems.
Now i'm thinking...I should have just gone with sharp or viewsonic.
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Dell UP3214Q and Mac Pro
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Chose the dell because of their next day pixel guarantee and their customer service.
Just switched over from dell u2711 and had those for three years no problems.
Now i'm thinking...I should have just gone with sharp or viewsonic.
Has everyone tested the Dell UP3214Q and Mac Pro with Bootcamp-Win 8.1? Does it run at 60Hz?
Do you think, next OSX-Update will bring 60Hz-Support?
Do you think, next OSX-Update will bring 60Hz-Support?
Yes, It works with Windows 8.1 at 60Hz.
OS X 10.9.2 13C44 improves the stability when connecting a MST-enabled screen to Mac but still only runs on 30Hz.
I've tried all the way to the 3rd beta of 10.9.2 and no support yet on my oMP with GTX670.
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I have the 24" too, how do you get 60hz ? I'm waiting for dell to pick it up to return it. If there is a way to do it I might just keep it.
thanks.
If there was MST support, it could run at 60hz... Also, where did you find this info?
Since the latest 10.9.2 beta version didn't change anything I've just submitted a hardware bug report at https://bugreport.apple.com
I suggest you do the same in order to let Apple know that you need 60 Hz support for the Dell UP3214Q when connected to the new Mac Pro. I really hope that they add support for this monitor despite the fact that it is made by Dell.
My bug report number is 15978367.
I suggest you do the same in order to let Apple know that you need 60 Hz support for the Dell UP3214Q when connected to the new Mac Pro. I really hope that they add support for this monitor despite the fact that it is made by Dell.
My bug report number is 15978367.
I've done the same for the rMBP too. 16019259. I gather the more of these that are submitted, the more chance there is of getting this resolved.
If that is so, that means it can also run a single 4K display at 60Hz by using thunderbolt -> HDMI cable and both of those with a single monitor.
Right?
Generally not. A DisplayPort v1.2 -> HDMI v2.0 active adapter perhaps, but those don't exist yet as proven products.
HDMI lower than v2 isn't going to run 4K 60Hz. That's what most current adapters are.
Knock yourself out.
I don't think you understand what you are suggesting.
MST is such a radically different way to talk to displays.
AMD Beta drivers have it in 10.9.2
Nvidia does NOT.
Nvidia MST will follow AFTER 10.9.2.
But even the Beta AMD is via DP.
The "legacy" part of DP is typically Single Link DVI and there are limited number of sources for this.
I know for a fact that on a 7970 in a cMP one of the MDP ports can do MST but I do not know where it grabs the 2nd feed. The card has ability to run 4 "heads" at 2K~2560-1600 resolution range. So a 4K at 60Hz requires combining at least 2 of them.
This stuff is in it's infancy. MST is so very different from anything OSX has enabled before.
I have a proposal to submit tonight, if I don't get too tired I will try 11C62 with HDMI & DP to HDMI passive and/or HDMI & DP to DVI Dual Link to HDMI on the Asus. I just can't imagine that AMD or Apple spent much time enabling such an obscure means to 60Hz when DP can do it without a flurry of cables & adapters.
Well, I can't try it since I don't have access to two 4K monitors. That is why I wanted to ask an owner of such config about it.
Since 4K is achievable with dual HDMI (people obviously do it on TVs and ASUS screens from what I know so far) on Windows and players, it should be possible to combine those two outputs user above is using for 2 x 4K@30Hz to get 1x 4K@60Hz.
Dual "old" HDMI is enough for 4K@60Hz theoretically and is a replacement solution when DP 1.2 is not available (like MBP Retina 2012). I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work on it that way then.
So a rMBP of 2012 can do 60Hz?
I have one and will test, but pretty sure it can't.
You need to look into this, you are asking for "Eyefinity" style support in OSX. Someone has to write drivers, it doesn't just work because specs say it should.
Two separate heads have to "sew" themselves together in the display to make this happen.
So, a driver that divides them in GPU and a display that knows to connect them. It is OBVIOUS that this is a goofy kludge that will be swept under the rug once real 4K standards get solidified. No reason to believe that Apple will enable via Dual HDMI.
Anyone want to place bets? My Proposal is off, I just need to make some food and I can bust out my HDMI cables.
So you have two of those monitors? That would be great if you would be so kind to try it. Also, if you have Windows installed on it, would be great if you could also try if it works inside Windows (since it works on PC with Windows 8 and both AMD and Nvidia).
Yeah, I guess this 4K at this moment is just a transition period which will just get ditched by the end of year when they actually push out new single-link method and monitors.
I hope it will be as announced by the end of year 2014.
Thanks for your effort.
Yeah, I guess this 4K at this moment is just a transition period which will just get ditched by the end of year when they actually push out new single-link method and monitors.
I hope it will be as announced by the end of year 2014.
Thanks for your effort.
So you have two of those monitors? That would be great if you would be so kind to try it. Also, if you have Windows installed on it, would be great if you could also try if it works inside Windows (since it works on PC with Windows 8 and both AMD and Nvidia).
Yeah, I guess this 4K at this moment is just a transition period which will just get ditched by the end of year when they actually push out new single-link method and monitors.
I hope it will be as announced by the end of year 2014.
Thanks for your effort.
Why does what you are hoping for require 2 @ 4K?
Anyhow, just tried 11C62 with HDMI and DVI to HDMI into Asus using Dual HDMI mode. Not working.
So, if not working on 7970 6GB, probably not working elsewhere.
No, I don't need 2. I need one @60Hz.
On MBP 2012 Whether it being 2x HDMI or 1xDP."Many" is a flawed characterization. Before the more widespread deployment of DisplayPort 1.2 capable monitors "dual HDMI" was the only kludge available to get to 4K. Some higher in broadcast reference monitors had this but they were not sold in any singnificantly large numbers to the general population.
None of the Dell UHD line up has two HDMI connectors.
It appears this high end Sharp (rebadged ) ASUS monitors do. That is probably to appeal to the folks sank large sums into early 4K equipment. Go forward those are likely as anachronistic as 1st generation HDTV ( no tuners and early component work arounds ) are now.
It is done by some but that is not mainstream 4K. That was a temporary kludge until real solutions like DP 1.2 and HDMI v2 showed up. In terms of deployment hacks like dual HDMI will likely be swept into legacy, relatively small status in another 6 months or so.
Apple tends not to sink alot of money and effort into technologies are old and shrinking. Don't hold your breath.
That isn't what is going on. One screen's information is being divided and set over two video "channels"/"streams". Normally two HDMI outputs would be individual screens. They are presented from the basic graphics drivers that way.
Theoretically Apple could rewrite OS X in pure assembly language. They are extremely unlikely to do that though.
HDMI v2 is a solution. kludging two HDMI outputs is a hack. Lack of DP 1.2 MST in MBP 2012 is more of an Nvidia issue than in matching modern 4K monitors. The DP v1.2 standard went complete in 2009. If by 2011 ( design window for MBP 2012) there wasn't a default foundation for MST then was more choice by Apple+Nvidia than a necessity.
Oh, so the 4K at 30Hz is an OSX fault? I thought HDMI 1.4 max resolution is 4K at 30Hz, and only HDMI 2.0 that supports 4k at 60Hz
Oh, so the 4K at 30Hz is an OSX fault? I thought HDMI 1.4 max resolution is 4K at 30Hz, and only HDMI 2.0 that supports 4k at 60Hz
Forget HDMI. We're talking about DP1.2.
Ah alright, so a nMP MiniDisplayPort to DisplayPort will not have a problem for those 4K at 60Hz?
Oh I think it will have a problem, because in OS X only 30Hz@4K are possible until now. In Windows it works @60Hz. This is what kid2010 posted.
I think nMP will never work at 60HZ via HDMI, because only HDMI 1.4 is supported.
I've already given up on HDMI as my Dell U2711 monitor doesn't support full res via HDMI, don't know why they even place that port in if it can't display full res