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Dell's All-in-One Hits U.S. at $699

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joeshell383

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20" iMac vs. Dell Studio 19

Screen: 20" Screen vs. 18.5" Multi-Touch Screen
Processor: 2.66 GHZ Core 2 Duo vs. 2.33 GHZ Core 2 Quad
FSB: 1066 MHZ vs. 1333 MHZ
RAM: 2GB DDR3 vs. 4GB DDR2
HDD: 320 GB 7200 RPM vs. 750 GB 7200 RPM
Optical: Slot Load DVD Burner vs. Slot Load Blu-ray Reader/DVD Burner
Color(s): Aluminum vs. Choice of White, Navy Blue, Charcoal, Pink, Red
Speakers: Integrated vs. Integrated
Webcam: Integrated vs. Integrated
Card Reader: None vs. 7-in-1
Ethernet: 10/100/1000 vs. 10/100
Graphics: Int (9400M) vs. Int (9400)
OS: Mac OS X 10.5.X vs. Windows Vista SP1 Home Premium 64-bit
Wireless: N vs. N
USB Ports: 4 vs. 6

Price: $1199 vs. $1269 after instant savings
 
But it runs Windows! About the only good thing there is the touch screen, because honestly, if your buying one of those computers, 2 gigs of ram is enough.
 
joeshell383 said:
20" iMac vs. Dell Studio 19

Screen: 20" Screen vs. 18.5" Multi-Touch Screen
Processor: 2.66 GHZ Core 2 Duo vs. 2.33 GHZ Core 2 Quad
FSB: 1066 MHZ vs. 1333 MHZ
RAM: 2GB DDR3 vs. 4GB DDR2
HDD: 320 GB 7200 RPM vs. 750 GB 7200 RPM
Optical: Slot Load DVD Burner vs. Slot Load Blu-ray Reader/DVD Burner
Color(s): Aluminum vs. Choice of White, Navy Blue, Charcoal, Pink, Red
Speakers: Integrated vs. Integrated
Webcam: Integrated vs. Integrated
Card Reader: None vs. 7-in-1
Ethernet: 10/100/1000 vs. 10/100
Graphics: Int (9400M) vs. Int (9400)
OS: Mac OS X 10.5 vs. Windows Vista SP1 Home Premium 64-bit
Wireless: N vs. N
USB Ports: 4 vs. 6

Price: $1199 vs. $1269 after instant savings
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They put together a nice system, I made one up with the 9400, and matched it to the iMac a bit more (No BD Player, etc) and it came out to $1024.

Not bad at all. There is a lot to evaluate in this stuff, build quality of the unit, screen brightness, pixel density, etc, and a lot of other smaller things.

The faster FSB, and Quad Core, are barely upgrades. The FSB won't do much for ya, and the Quad Core is only really useful in some applications. I have a quad core computer, faster than that Dell, and the only time it pushes all four cores is when I do video transcoding/encoding, and even then it has trouble actually pushing them to 100%.

I have no problem with Dell, even if I have seen a sever drop off in Quality Control lately that makes the 4850 problem with the iMac's look like a joy ride. I have many Dell systems. The best thing to do is just find what you like better. I have recently become more involved with OS X, and I like A LOT more than Vista, so I would pay a bit more for one of the Mac's.
 
It's post like this that prove that there really is not much difference in prices of similar computers from Apple to most other pc manufacturers.

But what's this fascination with touch screens? I use touch screen Windows systems every day as part of my job and after the novelty wears off (ie. after your first game of solitare) then they just become cumbersome to use making your arms ache with all those inaccurate mouse clicks and difficult dragging of the cursor.

First thing I do now is plug a mouse in before I use them.
 
The display / CPU unit is really pretty, although the keyboard and mouse leave a lot to be desired. What's with the choice of a 19" WXGA screen? That seems rather odd all around.
 
Definitely faster for apps that can use Quad Core. Shame about the graphics, screen, thickness, and appearance.
 
mkrishnan said:
The display / CPU unit is really pretty, although the keyboard and mouse leave a lot to be desired. What's with the choice of a 19" WXGA screen? That seems rather odd all around.
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Its a 16 by 9 screen. So its optimized for playing movies.
 
I will still take the 20-inch iMac. First of all, I am not sold on a touch-screen based desktop for home usage. However, DELL should ditch the keyboard and mouse completely for this machine.
 
mkrishnan said:
Let me be less unclear. Why is it only 1366 x 768, and why is it only 19"? Most 19" desktop displays have higher resolutions than that -- nearly all of them do -- and this thing's chief competitors also have bigger screens.
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The only thing I can think of is that 1366 x 768 is 720p spec. But who knows.

I did notice the name is Studio One 19, which may lead one to believe there will be other size screens available in the future.
 
mkrishnan said:
The display / CPU unit is really pretty, although the keyboard and mouse leave a lot to be desired.
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Agree.

Its no iMac.. but, for a Dell or any PC its very sleek. That input package though, eek!

If the iMac lost its chin, and had these dimensions but in Apple styling.. can you imagine? :)
 
I don't get the Studio name. The gallery shows it on a kitchen table and in children's rooms. Reminds me of back when Macs were called "toy computers".
 
Make one with multi-touch (as the Tom's Hardware article suggests?) and make it wall-mountable, and I will put one in my kitchen!
 
Not bad but the low-end is rather anemic: Celeron, nVidia 9200, 1GB RAM, 160GB hard disk and "Helping to keep the price down, optional features include integrated 802.11b/g/n WiFi, a 1.3-megapixel web camera, a microphone". Apple could probably come close to that with a pared-down iMac, if it wanted to. The real meat is up the food chain. I hope it compels Apple to "think different(ly)" about iMacs in the future.
 
Check out this new iMac look-alike!!!

Hey just hopped over to Dell.com to check out what my next Windows machine maybe and I found this. It looks like an iMac, but is 19''. Check out the 2nd model's "Featured Features;" I thought Apple had a patent on that, but has it expired? Not to mention, it is cheaper.
 
Dell has had this All In One for a long, long time now. So have other companies. This is just their first touch screen version.
 
VulnoX said:
Dell has had this All In One for a long, long time now. So have other companies. This is just their first touch screen version.
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That is untrue. They had the XPS One for awhile, but the Studio version is brand new.

That is why it is significant, it has multi-touch.
 
The quad core is nice but beyond that everything else is pretty bare bones. I didn't price it all out but I'm sure with 4 GB or ram, the 9400 card, camera, mircorphone plus a larger HDD probably puts it at a similar price as the entry level iMacs.
 
Peterg2 said:
Here is a review by CNET. This clearly is no winner from Dell.

http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/dell-studio-one-19/4505-3118_7-33637210.html?tag=mncol;txt
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This core complaint seems to be very similar to the one for other Studio products, like the Studio Hybrid -- low entry cost with paltry features, and once it's reasonably equipped, it becomes quite expensive compared to competitors. It's quite interesting that they're particular about it not being competitive on price with the iMac (I actually quite like the iMac, especially for the price, but it seems to get lots of complaints from Mac users in this regard).
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
That is untrue. They had the XPS One for awhile, but the Studio version is brand new.

That is why it is significant, it has multi-touch.
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Significantly insignificant. In its current stages, none of the touch screen features are all that great for a desktop PC. And its not implemented in any fantastic way. Multitouch works for the iPhone and Tablets because you are dealing with a portable system that is built around not having a keyboard and mouse handy. This is, currently, such a useless feature for a desktop computer. Touchscreens are NOT new, I have used them at jobs when I was 16. The fact that its multitouch is not going to make that less a reality. There are CNet reviews and that for this that say the same thing.

And yes, its still the same as the XPS One, I don't care that its called Studio now. Its just the less hawt version of the One. Its a new design sure, but its far from unique. The Sony AIO is a better value and beats it in benchmarks, but hell, so does the iMac from the Cnet tests.

In a few years, when OS' are based around a multitouch platform, if that happens, then this computer will seem like some kind of value. But a 18.6 inch screen on a $1000+ desktop is not likely to gain a bunch of traction.

BUT!

To each there own, it isn't good for me, but if its good for you, then dude, buy it! Don't take anything I say as an attack on this computer, I am just responding to the idea that its some breakthrough, and I just don't see it. It's like that Mac Cube...
 
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