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Yeah I found them, Apple does not make that stuff easy to find.

Well if its the T9800 in the iMac and the E7500 in the Dell, according to the benchmark site I found, the T9800 hits 2,049 while the E7500 2,157. So not really worth it. The kicker is with the Q8200 they offer in the Dell, 3,181. This of course takes into consideration you are pushing all four cores with whatever app you are using, which is pretty rare (currently).

Whatever, the Dell is a fine machine, I just don't have any use for that small a screen size. I can understand a 24" iMac or Sony or Dell because then you have a good all in one PC, even if it isn't the fastest kid on the block. With this though, I feel like I would have a rocket CPU, pretty lame GPU, and small Monitor.

This is exactly why I feel the new imac could of and should of put in a better cpu. (Same thing with their graphics card option) I care less about this new Dell machine although its a nice effort on their part. But a cheaper, lower end machine from Dell can offer a faster cpu than one of the top end iMacs, that makes me feel Apple could of and should of either included a better spec cpu or at least give people the options for a better cpu since they are charging that much more for their imac and they are selling it to a much higher end audience for their top end imacs.

And yes, I do wish they are more obvious about the actual hardware that they use inside the machines. They are always hard to find.
 
If Windows 7's multi-touch features live up to the hype, especially for Windows Media Center, I can see this being a pretty nice wall-mounted media player
 
This is exactly why I feel the new imac could of and should of put in a better cpu. (Same thing with their graphics card option) I care less about this new Dell machine although its a nice effort on their part. But a cheaper, lower end machine from Dell can offer a faster cpu than one of the top end iMacs, that makes me feel Apple could of and should of either included a better spec cpu or at least give people the options for a better cpu since they are charging that much more for their imac and they are selling it to a much higher end audience for their top end imacs.

And yes, I do wish they are more obvious about the actual hardware that they use inside the machines. They are always hard to find.

So theres a faster cpu in their for less than 2.5 times cheaper. I just think that apples prices are too high and that they need to be more competitive. This is why I am still using a G5, I don't really need anymore power on the Mac OS and don;t feel like spending more than 1000 dollars for a non upgradeable machine like an imac. I have tons of newer windows machines which i use for that kind of stuff. Also this computer will have uses in business market too. The touch screen will come in handy as will its small form facter.
 
The fact that the Dell Studio 19 runs Windows Vista SP1 Home Premium 64-bit completely destroys any hardware advantages the Dell Studio 19 might have over the 20" iMac.
 
It looks pretty good but of course not as elegant as the Imac!

$700 sounds like a deal but what average buyer would buy it barebone like that? Once you add other stuff, it will be close to the Imac.

The specs and such would be a bump up thought but I just hate Windows.

Like another poster saying, the Multi touch stuff is a fad really.
I can't see myself using it when the mouse is so much easier and quicker.
Remember those public Kiosk w/ multi touch terminals? Horrible.
And your arms gotta ache after awhile since you can really rest on the keyboard pad or anything like that.
It’s just another new fad to me. But I’m sure suckers are born everyday.
And you would have to clean your monitors constanly and scratching and stuff. I’m sure the screens are scratch resistant but even those wear down.
 
I totally agree w/ you.
I think it’s a novelty thing. Kinda like CSI and the futuristic stuff. People are suckers for ’em. Myself included.

It's post like this that prove that there really is not much difference in prices of similar computers from Apple to most other pc manufacturers.

But what's this fascination with touch screens? I use touch screen Windows systems every day as part of my job and after the novelty wears off (ie. after your first game of solitare) then they just become cumbersome to use making your arms ache with all those inaccurate mouse clicks and difficult dragging of the cursor.

First thing I do now is plug a mouse in before I use them.
 
My question to the original poster is this, do you currently or have you owned a Mac in recent memory? If so, then make a decision based on your computing needs and the utility you give to ease of use, functionality, and quality of design. If not, now would be a good time to give it a shot. It is easy for potential converts who are in the market to fall victim to these "great" systems with higher specs, blu-ray, etc. One thing that people often fail to realize is that first, 4 gig of ram is no good unless you are running 64 bit. So really you actually can use 3 or a slight bit more. That being considered, Vista is a bloated turd that consumes vast amounts more of system resources than OSX. I would take an OSX box with 2 gig over a Vista box with 3 from a virtual memory capacity/usage perspective.

Another thing to consider is gaming. If you plan to do a lot of gaming the Mac may not be the right choice, but then again you can always load Vista using Boot Camp. If you plan to watch a bunch of blu-ray movies on your computer then obviously the Mac is not the right choice. I bought a computer to manage/edit photos, organize/listen to music, undertake creative endeavors, word processing, etc. If I want to play games I fire up the PS2, which I find much more appealing than PC gaming. If I want to watch a movie, I fire up the flat screen. Obviously you are asking the question on a Mac board so the response is going to be bias. It also appears that you want people to "talk you out of the Dell" or "in to the Mac". Just consider your personal circumstances is the best option.
 
I wouldn't buy a computer with a 32-bit operating system. It's somewhat annoying how tough it can be to find a budget system with Home Basic 64-bit.
 
I wouldn't buy a computer with a 32-bit operating system. It's somewhat annoying how tough it can be to find a budget system with Home Basic 64-bit.
Both dell and hp offer 64bit windows and 32bit for all their new computers. Their may be exception like netbooks but 64bit is in the build to order and the touchscreen actually only was available on 64bit.
 
Both dell and hp offer 64bit windows and 32bit for all their new computers. Their may be exception like netbooks but 64bit is in the build to order and the touchscreen actually only was available on 64bit.
I've found more often than not that Home Basic will only come in its 32-bit version. This is on chipsets that aren't limited to 32-bit addressing as well.

You won't find a 945 spin off in a desktop anymore.
 
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