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Department of Justice and FTC Looking Into Beeper iMessage Controversy
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I'm surprised that the EU hasn't demanded that Facebook release WhatsApp, given their political dealings.
Let’s be clear here: The only reason the DOJ is getting involved is because they would love to open up the security of iMessages. They give zero crap about consumers.
I fail to see how this is any different than requiring Twitter to work with FaceBook.
Even if they do somehow force interoperability, they cannot keep Apple from charging for their service on their servers which they are required to maintain for zero profit from these users who did not purchase their hardware.
I fail to see how this is any different than requiring Twitter to work with FaceBook.
Even if they do somehow force interoperability, they cannot keep Apple from charging for their service on their servers which they are required to maintain for zero profit from these users who did not purchase their hardware.
I think Apple should make iMessage open, but to say it's anticompetitive to the point of being an antitrust violation is ridiculous. It's their own service, they have control over how it should be used.
I simply do not understand this whole issue. I understand Apple not wanting outside parties with unknown security issues access to their servers. Look it is not like there are other universal texting formats. I mostly use Telegram it works across all platforms. So if you are an "A"ndroid hole go get a life on Telegram, that's where my friends are. 
iPhone users sure have a superiority complex over having a blue bubble.
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Such a phrase is just as ridiculous.
Democraps are upset at the 100's of Billions of dollars Apple has stashed overseas and they can't tax it. So they have their horse flies going after them. Apple than swats them with a 200 pound sledge hammer.
Gov can break them up into hardware and software companies. Haha that would destroy their ecosystem/synergy. Reason to breAk apple up: theyre using their monopoly on iPhones to get a monopoly in iOS software.
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So, Apple provide a messaging service that works securely across Apple devices only. Apple covers the server and traffic costs because it’s part of the service to customers who bought Apple products. A third party company finds a way to “hack” iMessage to register and use non Apple devices without payment to Apple. Opening up a way to spam etc from non Apple devices and then when Apple shuts them down the FTC get involved? WTF
When it comes to anticompetitive and monopolistic practices, this doesn't matter. The issue is apple is using it's dominance in the smartphone market to prop up imessage usage, while simultaneously using its dominance in imessage to prop up iphone sales.
You have to separate the two, or at least make it seem like there is parity of services. iMessage is anticompetitive (ahem), "convenient" because it turns on automatically for iphone users. They do not have to lift a finger and have iMessage work. That's great, but that also means apple is making the choice for those users already, that they are going to use iMessage. Now, since iMessage is a good product, people like to stay on it, cool, but Apple also simultaneously makes the next easiest alternative to imessage (SMS) terrible. If they want to use another service, like Whatsapp. They don't allow you to make Whatsapp the default messaging service, you can't send SMS through Whatsapp.
On the flip side, that same dominance it has on iMessage, which Apple deliberately does, props up their smartphone business.
There's A LOT of things that Apple could theoretically do to make their business less anticompetitive, and RCS is one of them (at least now the alternative to imessage isn't terrible), opening up iMessage to Android would be another (that way they aren't using their dominance of imessage to prop up iphone sales), or lastly, making imessage interoperable (same thing, it would no longer prop up iphone sales)
It's not just Apple. Google Chrome will eventually have to allow users to select a default search engine, so they can't use Chrome's dominance to prop up Google Search.
When you play with the big boys, you can't be anti competitive. It's harmful for consumers.
If the government agencies find that commercial entities must have products open to competitors use, then THAT is stifling competition, and the entire landscape becomes same same. This would result in companies buying out other companies because it would be the only way to maintain or increase market share.
What happens in the commercial landscape could then reasonably be expected to apply to government; surely the law courts and government agencies should be open to 'competition' allowing multiple players in the same field.
What happens in the commercial landscape could then reasonably be expected to apply to government; surely the law courts and government agencies should be open to 'competition' allowing multiple players in the same field.
Which is their right as a vertically integrated company. I am fairly confident that the only way this can happen is if congress can come together to enact new laws because under existing ones, it has been established in court that Apple has no duty to deal.
Hate on Apple all you want. At least hate right.
If imessage has to be open to competitors to use, then there's no reason why In N Out couldn't make Big Macs, or KFC could make whatever it is INO make.
iMessage is not anti-competitive, it is a secured intra-environment platform. SMS is not anti-competitive, and it is not secure.
As I've said before, if the US government finds that Apple is being anti-competitive and forces them to open their service to other players, then the same should apply to government. I'm sure there'd be welcome cheers all over the US if multiple private companies could emulate the DMV.
That sounds ridiculous very little of Apple software is sold separately from a device. What next Microsoft can’t make first party computers either?
Perhaps Apple needs to no longer be an American company and find greener shores. The fact that any business can cry foul to the US government and have forced access to competitors products is ludicrous, it defeats the purpose of any company bothering to research and develop anything proprietary.
What a complete waste of OUR taxpayer money to investigate this crap!
The point you are missing is that a large portion of iPhone users only use iMessage. I have no interest in any other messaging service. There is no benefit to being on a single messaging platform unless the goal is mediocrity.
I don't know anything about it on a technical level, but Google appear to be supporting the recently published MLS protocol as a potential solution to this issue https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/20/23801536/google-messages-app-mls-support-announce
Apple advertises end to end encryption. A third party sticking their code in the middle of that breaks the promise to end users. This isn‘t anti-competitive, it’s closing security vulnerabilities.
Absolutely, and I think they should release it as a subscription service for Android and Windows, and I think they'd make a killing on it.
But trying to backdoor and piggyback on Apple's services free of charge or authorization, and they tried to charge a subscription themselves - is beyond stupid.
