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JohnApples

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iPad 2 already holds the record of going through 5 supported major updates and now it has increased to 6. 4s is behind by 1. But 4s will most likely never match or beat iPad 2's record, because the moment iPad 2 support drops, so would other A5 devices including 4s.

I predict at least Air 2 will beat iPad 2's record eventually. Just a matter of when.
That's insane. I don't own an iPad 2, so I can't really say how it performs or if continuing to update it is even worth it, but man! I bet iPad 2 owners sure feel happy with their investment.

I don't have enough knowledge to say for sure, but for some reason I agree that the iPad Air 2 may be the next iPad 2 in terms of update support. Perhaps the combination of the A8X chip, being the first (and only) iOS device with 2 GB RAM, and future iOS versions becoming more "aging friendly", will allow the Air 2 to live on for many, many years.

Now if only I can get my dad to upgrade from the iPad 1 and stop complaining about the lack of support beyond iOS 5.1.1.
 
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striders

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Mar 11, 2009
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It's the only device that has 2GB RAM. Makes sense.

6s+ may get it as well though. And Air 3 will.

Why would it need 2 GB of RAM for the multitasking? I though iOS memory management is very efficient such that it is recommended NOT to kill background app.

Or is it Apple way on making people buy new devices every year?

As much as I want to get the multitasking feature, I definitely will not buy the new iPad (Air or Mini). My Mini 3 and Air 1 are still quite new.
 

Manatlt

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Why would it need 2 GB of RAM for the multitasking? I though iOS memory management is very efficient such that it is recommended NOT to kill background app.

Or is it Apple way on making people buy new devices every year?

As much as I want to get the multitasking feature, I definitely will not buy the new iPad (Air or Mini). My Mini 3 and Air 1 are still quite new.
...because you will be running 2 apps at the same time? And that requires more RAM?
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Why would it need 2 GB of RAM for the multitasking? I though iOS memory management is very efficient such that it is recommended NOT to kill background app.

Or is it Apple way on making people buy new devices every year?

As much as I want to get the multitasking feature, I definitely will not buy the new iPad (Air or Mini). My Mini 3 and Air 1 are still quite new.
There's a limit to efficiency as well with the actual physical memory being the limitation. Multitasking wasn't something Apple imagined for the Air while they did for their Air 2. When they released and marked the Air and people bought it there was no mention of it being able to support it or getting that ability at any point in the future.
 
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Mercifull

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iPad 2 owner here, very pleased with the investment. Got some really long life out of this device and the efficiency improvements in iOS9 should hopefully make it feel less sluggish. It also means I don't need to buy a new one and so I have some money to maybe buy an Apple Watch hehe
 

Jsameds

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Apr 22, 2008
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Split multi-tasking! YAY!!

Only for iPad Air 2. WTF!?

Anyone with any sense already knew split screen multitasking was coming and would require 2GB RAM. There's a reason people held off buying iPhone 6/6+ because it only had 1GB, and it was one of the main reasons I upgraded to iPad Air 2 from the Air 1.
 
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oldmacs

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Anyone with any sense already knew split screen multitasking was coming and would require 2GB RAM. There's a reason people held off buying iPhone 6/6+ because it only had 1GB, and it was one of the main reasons I upgraded to iPad Air 2 from the Air 1.

but but but the people saying that the iPhone 6 should have had 2 GB of ram are just apple hating naysayers :p :p :p :p
 
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darcyf

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Apr 25, 2011
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I'm not surprised the A5 is still being supported. The leap in processing power from the A4 to the A5 was greater than all the previous leaps combined and then some. The A5 was when Apple really figured out how to harness the power of mobile processing.

And as an iPhone 4 user, you could feel it with every new iOS that came out after iOS4 -- they were designed for iPhones with far more power than the iPhone 4 could muster, and the results were irresponsive button taps, apps that took forever to load and that were constantly being kicked out of memory.

Though I think iOS7 managed to turn the tide back for the iPhone 4 a little in terms of overall responsiveness -- it seems like efficiency is becoming more and more of a thing with iOS releases, which also might explain why the A5 is still getting shown the love.
 
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striders

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Wow! So many snarky response to my questions. It is a legit question - when Apple implement background app, there are recommendations on closing the apps when not needed (double tap then swipe up) and other say leave it. I tend to leave it on and works well.

Even when Android have 8 GB RAM and what not, Apple stick with smaller RAM and the OS is so well designed my iPhone never stutter. Crash app maybe, but I don't feel the slow down.

So with the multitasking, it'll be only 2 apps, comparing to the multiple background one., hence my question.

But it seems people here will defend Apple no matter what the questions are, legit or not, and take it as if I am attacking their pride.. sorry.. Apple's pride.

Smh...
 

chaffinr05

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So with the multitasking, it'll be only 2 apps, comparing to the multiple background one., hence my question.

I do not understand what is hard to grasp about this concept. I also feel like you answered your own question. Think of it this way. 1GB of RAM for 1 app running. 2GB of Ram for 2 apps running.

Most of the 1GB iPhone/iPads were designed before multi tasking was ever even considered on these devices. Running more than one app at a time will of course require more resources (will of course vary based on the two apps being ran) than running a single app and having the rest "paused" in the background (which is the "fake" multitasking that apple has implemented in the OS until this point)

Further expanding on what I mentioned above... even if it did "work" on devices on 1GB, the question would then become at what sacrifices? That sacrifices could very well be slowed app launches, instability, etc. all of which are things that Apple tries to avoid to maintain the Apple "it just works" experience.

This isn't me blindly defending Apple. Of course I recognize that by forcing only the latest generation of a device to work with X feature while the others miss out is frustrating and likely generates more sales from certain individuals who want X feature... but I also recognize Apple likely weights these decisions heavily before release, and after thorough testing, I'd say they probably decided the "sacrifices" I mentioned above were simply not worth it. It's just like Siri working on certain older devices via Jailbreak that Apple did not officially market. This was likely due to the lacking of better noise cancellation which is on the newer devices that Siri is supported on. It sacrificed the "experience" that Apple strives to maintain, and thus they decided to not include Siri on X older devices, just as they have decided to not include full multi tasking on devices without 2GB of RAM.

Keyword: Experience.
 
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