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I prefer the iPad, just my preference for things I do.
I would rather spend 1000+ on a power desktop like the iMac and keep the ultra portability of the iPad, for me better exp when mobile, it's lighter, cost less, and able to use it in daily live(lying on couch, walking around home, don't have to have to take\put in a bag, less obtrusive).

Again just does what I need it to do or be, but others may prefer diff. :)

Agreed. The iMac is far far better value for money than the Mac notebook line up. Unless you need to run os x apps on the road that don't have an iOS equivalent then I would rather get a new iMac and iPad.
 

Zord

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It's an iPad killer for me. I'm dumping my iPad and ordering an 11.6" Air.

I'm thinking of doing the same thing.

I have an iPhone 4 that can cover a lot of the bases talked about previously.
 

entatlrg

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It would be for me if it had built in 3G and the maps feature, I use my iPad a lot for that purpose.

I could do the same with a 3G internet stick too, but I have no idea what or if there's good gps/mapping software for the mac that would work well on the new mba?

If so then it will replace my iPad for sure.
 

elvineet

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Depends on your perspective. I am posting this from a 1.83 GHz Core Duo 17" iMac. This was the first Intel iMac from 2006.

Apple just took my home computer, ran it through a letterpress, and put it for sale for $600 less than what I paid for this iMac. From where I'm sitting, yes, the new Air just killed the iPad for me.
 

drjsway

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You've got to be kidding. A C2D processor paired with an 11.6 inch in *2010* going into 2011 is essentially netbook level power at this point.

I am a fan of the screen resolution and instant on capability though.

Are you really that ignorant? Even the low end 1.4ghz c2d is 3x faster than an Atom.

On the other hand, even the jump to the fastest ULV i7 just released two weeks ago (1.46ghz) is much less substantial.

Essentially netbook level power? What other netbook can run Starcraft II and Crysis?
 

blairh

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Kill? Absolutely not. However I do believe certain iPad owners will sell theirs to get an 11" MBA instead. Also it will give some iPad potential purchasers a moment of contemplation as they debate if they'd rather have an 11" MBA instead.
 

einmusiker

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it's going to cut into sales, but it's all profit for appl. I just sold my ipad to order the 11" mba. better serves my needs. Having flash on a portable device is still a necessity in the current universe IMO
 

yankintx

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I prefer the iPad, just my preference for things I do.
I would rather spend 1000+ on a power desktop like the iMac and keep the ultra portability of the iPad, for me better exp when mobile, it's lighter, cost less, and able to use it in daily live(lying on couch, walking around home, don't have to have to take\put in a bag, less obtrusive).

Again just does what I need it to do or be, but others may prefer diff. :)

My home has 3 notebooks, 2 ipads, and 1 powerful desktop ( Only apple device is the iPad) Right now I am on the iPad. I usually use the iPad, and although the new MacBook air is nice, I couldn't see purchasing it. If I travelled and really needed a full operating system, then maybe.
When my desktop pc needs replacing, I will purchase the large iMac.
 

zub3qin

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I think when he dust settles, the Macbook Air will not be a big seller.

Whenever Apple releases a new product there is a tremendous amount of interest on these forums and desire to buy. But after the hype wears off and reality sets in, I think people will ultimately not buy this device in huge numbers.

The advance of the MBAir is that it is a window into what the next Macbook Pro will be. In fact what most people want.

People want SSD, but a faster processor than the MBA, more RAM, backlit keyboard, etc.

I sense that most would rather the MBAir be made just a tad thicker and heavier (what is Apple's fascination with being super thin?) but this would allow for the added features, longer battery, and maybe lower cost.

This is coming I am sure with the next Macbooks.

I want my Macbook to be my desktop replacement. I want one computer. The MBAir just can't do it for me just yet.
 

haoqfu

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i sold my ipad and ordered a new 13" mba. the major thing i do with the ipad is reading books. other than that, i find working other tasks on it is significantly slower than on a full os. (i do multitask all the time)
 

Gr80Likes2Boogi

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I have a 15" uMBP, and LOVE it. In fact, my next one may even be a 17", so ultra-portability is not as important as functionality. I also have a 3GS. I have a lot of wheel time behind an iPad, so I'm aware of all the ins and outs of this product line. I'm certainly not bagging on the iPad, I think it's an awesome little gadget. For my -OWN- purposes, the 11.6" Air looks like it'd be my perfect solution. For running QLab and other theatrical apps, OSX is a need. iOS could work, but theatrical applications are not fully integrated in iOS yet.

My business now runs off of a mini, and my future booth computer (for the theatre) will probably be that 11.6" air, where it would have been the 13"mb/mbp before... now that still may be the case, as refurbs may go even further down in price, not to mention optical drive which is a MUST for sound design/programming. Just rambling, I guess, but those are my thoughts. I don't think anyone is a fool for owning an iPad, or even Air AND iPad, I'm more jealous of your income =)
 

darrellishere

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It's interesting how after the release of the iPad, Steve Jobs took time to rip on netbooks and how underpowered they are.

Then he goes and essentially releases a netbook.

My lower spec macbook air 1.6 with Nvidia 9400m is no netbook! I've just been remotely editing my aperture library! As I do everyday. These things are fast as hell with the SSD's. They play hd blu-ray rips, hell I rip them on my Air! So get a grip, its not all about the latest i-Whatever!!! ;)
 

.summerfree

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Sir, you made my day.



Two ways we can look at this,

iPad = Tablet
Macbook Air = Not a tablet

OR

Macbook Air = Laptop
iPad = Not a laptop

They aren't competing products and thus neither will kill the other.
Well for now, I suppose. But that's another debate for a later time.
 

bouncer1

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I'll elaborate for him.

Two different devices, two different needs.

One touchscreen, one not.

Totally different apps.

Frankly, most people will still get an ipad, this new Air didnt kill anything, not even the ipad, slow your roll

That's too simplistic. The air will eat a share from the ipad, but the air will eat a share from netbooks/pc laptops too, so it's win/win for apple, and an almost sure death of netbooks at least on this side of the fence which is getting bigger and bigger.

In typical Jobsian genius (and experience) mode, the ipad was given a good few months for people to get to know it, to use it, to understand it's purpose, to let it in their lives and need it. Remember after it was announced the vast majority here in full blown ignorance and with lack of foresight had pretty negative things to say about the ipad, with the thing you heard the most being, I dont get it, or what is it for, or it's just a big ipod touch and all the crap (let alone what the pc side was saying...). What some retrospectively consider as a simple division between tablet and laptop is an anachronism, because that distinction simply wasn't there yet. People didn't know what a modern touch table was and why they would ever consider it over a laptop.

So apple had to have a strategy. At that point during the launch of the ipad, no other mac star could outshine it or come even remotely close at doing what it does. Because it had to find its market, it had to be given time for people to get to know it. Steve wasn't going to kill his baby, the very same baby he put on life support so he could make a phone because he saw the market was there first, so he could built a customer base, make an app store, get them to learn touch, get all the developers on board etc. etc. He wasn't going to kill it by releasing a mac as thin and light that people who had never used an ipad might prefer, not after years of preparing, and aborting, and preparing again, and then aborting the ipad.


But he had a back up plan, as he said when the ipad was launched, "you are alway confident about a product, but you still don't really know, you still get butterflies", if for some reason, even that 2% chance the world wasn't ready for the ipad (which along with Steve I never believed either - I too thought the time had come), and the ipad sold merely adequately but nothing to write home about, we would still have given it time to go into people's hands, and then he would have fired up with the smallest portable mac ever in the air.


THAT'S WHY the air was delayed. A masterful planning move from Steve. Such little details show why this guy (and the great team he has around him, let's not forget) is special. These little details that even his largest competitors can't grasp, let alone implement.

As an aside, I was browsing the toshiba website today just to have some price comparison with the new air from a pc side: a. the air is a very, very good deal, no one can match it with this level of quality. b. these guys at toshi still don't get it. they used to be great, I owned their laptops way back when. And now I go to their site and after having to shift through literally tens of choices (from the side panel) of cpus, screen sizes, hd sizes blah blah, and a 50+ or so laptops, I say to myself, ... that, I can't be bothered to plough through every conceivable combination of hardware (almost all running windows) because these guys still haven't managed to understand the very basics of streamlining their products (as Steve has showed them years ago). That's why they are reduced to making chips for apple instead of being the ones who make the products people talk about. When will they learn? Possibly never.

sorry for the big digression.
 

zap2

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You've got to be kidding. A C2D processor paired with an 11.6 inch in *2010* going into 2011 is essentially netbook level power at this point.

I am a fan of the screen resolution and instant on capability though.

Have you used an Atom recently? Don't buy into Intel marketing, the i3 is only about 20% faster then a similar C2D. They both beat an Atom by a long shot.
 

detoxguy

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Point taken. Also, he probably doesn't see the new macbook air as a netbook, but I don't know what else to call a laptop with an 11.6 inch screen and a tiny keyboard.

Granted, its got a few things no other netbook has which make it more usable--and much more expensive. However, its a still a netbook.

Netbooks don't have a core 2 duo processor, Nvidia 320m graphics, ssd memory, can run up to 4gb of ram, run OSX...do I need to go on? I also lost track of how many times it was mentioned that even the 11.6" has a full sized keyboard....by your logic the original 12" powermac was a netbook? ok.
 

Dammit Cubs

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Jul 31, 2007
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It's interesting how after the release of the iPad, Steve Jobs took time to rip on netbooks and how underpowered they are.

Then he goes and essentially releases a netbook.

It's not a netbook. The name Netbook was given because its use with the intel atom processor. Although the clock speed of the atom and this C2D CULV is about equivalent, the performance is miles apart.

Lets put it this way. Your pentium 4 is faster than an Atom.

It just happens to be in a 11.6 notebook frame, the Operation system isn't a "starter edition". The ram can go up to 4 instead of the 2gb and usually alot of cheaper netbooks use intel accelerated Craphics. It should still be highly capable and when I mean highly capable, it shouldn't underpower at all. The Atom on the other hand....My god!!!!
 

OW22

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It's a good question, but for me the answer is no.

They are different devices in many ways. I believe iPad owners would only really look at the MBA if they absolutely had to have the Keyboard and needed maybe to use MS Office say for the odd work assignment on the road.

That's really it. The whole touchscreen experience puts the iPad way ahead imho. Reading an e-newspaper on the iPad is really incredible and internet browsing for me is now at an entirely different level. For travel, it's a winner as the battery life is excellent and you could watch 3 whole movies on the device which is clearly better then most laptops/netbooks.

As with anything, it comes down to what you need. If you needed a device to do work on as well as use it for your own personal entertainment, then the MBA may be for you. I think the iPad paired to a more "Senior", home device like a MBP or an iMac will suit many people.
 

nomad01

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It's an iPad killer for me. I'm dumping my iPad and ordering an 11.6" Air.

Hmm. I think I agree.

I've always wished Apple would make a (shhhh) netbook. The iPad kind of filled that void for me but I think this fills it better.

I'd still like to keep my iPad for Zinio and eBooks probably but I doubt it'll get much use after I get the baby Air.
 

Hooksta

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I think the new MBA looks very cool. Personally I own a 15"MBP and an iPhone. I use the iPhone to do those quick portable cell/WiFi searches and the MBP for everything else. For book reading I have the newest Kindle. I like reading from the matte screen vs. a glaring finger-printed surface. And no comparison on size, weight, or battery life in that category.

While I think there are cool points about the iPad, to me it is just a glorified iPod Touch that lacks a camera (so no video Skyping or Facetime).

The MBA looks super cool. If I wanted to blow $1,600 on something I really don't need I'd get one in a second. I may even consider an iPad once it gets a camera. Sorry if I want the iPad to be at least as good as the iPod Touch.
 

ggf

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May 24, 2008
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The thing I find interesting is how apple keep managing to pitch their products to various specific niches but they are still able to meet other needs. What this means is that people who can afford to buy multiple machines to meet the various needs they have in there lives. If you want to work out you have a shuffle, if you want to take your whole music collection with you(for most people) you get a classic, if you want pocket games you get a touch, the iPhone is the do everything pocket device, the iPad is the perfect go anywhere media consumption device, the air or the mbp are the tools of choice for the road warrior depending on their needs, macbook works for the budget conscious person who needs mobility, the apple tv is the home media consumption devise, the mini is a great home media device but also adds some gaming capability,iMac as a general computer and pro for the professionals. And iTunes the app store and mobile me stitch it all together.
I have an iPhone, an iPad, a mini, and an iMac and I am tempted to buy a shuffle and an air. The iPad is the device I use more than any other, but it is not the only solution I need and certainly not the only one I want. The thing is the more pieces you fill in the more you can see how the others can fit other needs you have. This is marketing genius
 

Lucagfc

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iPad & MacBook Air have two different target.

I' m considering using a MacBook Air to replace my MacBook Pro but I'm going to keep the iPad.

I use my WiFi iPad when I'm at home on the sofa, in bed etc. In this condition is less comfortable to use the MBA.

In addition, the use of iPad is preferable in some fields such as sending mail, surf the Web and dedicated applications to use a certain service. is certainly more convenient to use a single full screen application that a real computer.
 

bigjnyc

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It's interesting how after the release of the iPad, Steve Jobs took time to rip on netbooks and how underpowered they are.

Then he goes and essentially releases a netbook.


He always does that. One of these days someone will grow a pair and call him out on his BS. He bashes things left and right until Apple decides to release it then its the most wonderful thing ever invented. The man is a marketing genius though can't take that away from him.
 
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