Differences Between Windows Bootcamp on Mac vs Windows on a Windows PC

[Shake 'n' Bake]

It doesn't. Please stop repeating statistically false claims from a 2 year old PC World magazine. They used a single test (WorldBench 6). It scored a 88 on the test and a Gateway laptop scored a 87. Due to the margin, claiming a victory like they did is misleading. But of course, PCWorld did it to gain attention, and attention they gained...

Oh, and it's worth mentioning. The Gateway E-265M that it looks like they tested actually had a slower processor (2.2 Ghz vs 2.4 Ghz), and it lacked a dedicated video card... Of course, PCWorld no longer has the Gateway they tested listed anymore...

PCWorld didn't attempt to test comparable laptops. They just grabbed a bunch of laptops and tested them.

Oh, but it does.

I ran Flight Simulator X on a Dell XPS 410 and a Mac mini. Here are the Dell's specs:

1.86 GHz C2D
3 GB DDR2 RAM
nVidia 7800 GS, I think. I could check if you want.
320 GB 7200 RPM SATA HDD @ 3.0 GB/sec
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Mac mini

2.0 GHz C2D
2 GB DDR2 RAM
GMA 950
120 GB 5400 RPM HDD @ 1.5 GB/sec
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Due to the small HDD space on the mini, I installed Vista on the internal and FSX on a FW400 external. The Dell had everything on the internal.

The mini felt very responsive and loaded the initial screen in about a minute. The Dell on the other hand, took at least seven minutes to load the initial screen.

I set both to the highest possible settings. The mini was a bit choppy, but that is due to FSX being on an external HDD. The Dell was terrible. It took literally five or more minutes to load the game, and in-game performance was terrible--maybe a few FPS.

 

[upinflames900]

Yeah, keep up the thought that Mac OS X is "the most secure OS." You're not doing anyone ANY favor. Just do other people a favor when you dish out advice on computer security and keep that opinion to yourself.

And before you or anyone else ask if I've ever used Mac OS X, I'm typing this in Mac OS X right now.

Let me just get this straight...you are trying to tell me that Windows is a more secure OS than mac? And you are supporting a guy who argues that Windows is a great OS? And...what they heck does that have to do with anything related to this thread? I asked about how windows works on a mac, not like your (however misjudged) opinion of mac os. Additionally, the support response is again not my question...I asked is there anything different between running windows on a mac vs on a normal windows machine...answer is no unless someone actually has something else to say. We all saw the response that said the support could be a problem, we didn't comment bc it wasn't my question! Please read the thread and then don't just rant about someone else or tell me how stupid we all are.

 

[The Flashing Fi]

I call BS or you have a MUCH bigger problem with your Dell.

There is literally NOTHING that in a Mac that runs Windows faster. It's not the drivers and it's not the hardware.

If your Mac Mini is outperforming your Dell, then you have a serious issue with your Dell, such as drivers, virus, whatever.

I know, I'm double posting, but I just can't be bothered to edit my post.

Let me just get this straight...you are trying to tell me that Windows is a more secure OS than mac?

Did I say that? No. Don't put words in my mouth again. For a guy telling me to "read," maybe you should take your own advice. It doesn't matter which is more secure, because at the end of the day, they each have flaws in the security. Whether it be a simple Java security issue, a flaw in Safari, a flaw in IE, whatever. Just because Mac OS X might be more secure than Windows, doesn't mean that you should be ignorant to the fact that there are flaws. You shouldn't treat any OS as being impervious.

Just because I'm not jumping on the "Mac is perfect" bandwagon, doesn't mean that I hate Mac OS X. You're not doing yourself, or anyone else for that matter, a favor by putting Mac OS X on a pedestal.

And you are supporting a guy who argues that Windows is a great OS?

Windows is a great OS. As is Linux and Mac OS X. They're great in their own respect. There is no OS that does EVERYTHING perfectly. If there is, please show me it.

And...what they heck does that have to do with anything related to this thread?

What the heck does the last 2 pages have to do with your thread? You know, with all the people going on about how Windows is the biggest threat to Network security, ect. Hmmm. I think you just don't like that I'm not sipping the Mac Kool Aid.

I asked about how windows works on a mac, not like your (however misjudged) opinion of mac os.

My opinion is misjudged? No. It's a fact that Mac OS X has flaws. Mac may not be virus infected, but it has its share of security flaws like any other OS.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/securi...under-30-minutes/0,130061744,139241748,00.htm
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...r_cracks_Mac_in_10_seconds_at_PWN2OWN_wins_5k
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobilize/gone-in-2-minutes-mac-gets-hacked-first-in-contest-676

Additionally, the support response is again not my question...I asked is there anything different between running windows on a mac vs on a normal windows machine...answer is no unless someone actually has something else to say. We all saw the response that said the support could be a problem, we didn't comment bc it wasn't my question!

I don't know about you, but the following looks like a question to me, and it was asked by you:

And get this certain departments actually require a macbook and do not allow a windows computer! What on earth?!?

Sounds to me like you're wondering why the school requires a Mac yet won't accept a Mac running Windows. And as such, mine and another guy's response is the technical support side. Additionally, our response should put you at ease when buying a Mac for school. Since if you have no problem with tech support, then there is no reason for you to not buy a Mac.

However, if you're going to need, I believe it's AutoCAD, that program has issues only with Macs running Windows with BootCamp. It has something to do with the licensing messing up in BootCamp.

Please read the thread and then don't just rant about someone else or tell me how stupid we all are.

Where did I call anyone here stupid? I never once directly called anyone here stupid.

If you have a problem with people having differing opinions from your own, then perhaps you shouldn't come to a forum...

 

[upinflames900]

It is really not worth going through this with you...for some reason you just wish to find fault in everyone's opinions...I would recommend that you find a different thread to post on bc you are not helping here at all...

 

[scottsdomain]

Funny

I started reading the thread and looked up the computer specs for UD.

My wife and I found it really funny, we will not be sending our kids to that school!

 

[-tWv-]

there are no differences between a normal windows computer and a mac with bootcamp. You are installing the same operating system so everything is exactly the same as if you would be installing on some other computer. All software and everything windows works with bootcamp.

 

[xIGmanIx]

You must not own a mac because if you did you wouldn't be saying that...and compare windows vista to mac os x and get back to me. Also read the topic, we are asking whether windows on a mac (via bootcamp) is the same as windows on a pc. The question isnt whether or not to use the mac os. Also mac is way more secure so that makes no sense at all.

I own both a Mac and a windows box and that has nothing to do with anything. Anyone one who "knows" OS's would know that bootcamp allows windows to run naively on the hardware, what is so hard about that?

You wanna get into an OS squabble with me? Seriously, its not a nice thing to do.




I use 4 OS's in fact. Care to enlighten me what does that have to do with the current thread?

It demonstrates your lack of experience in the IT environment. Please do not speak to what you don't know. It was a rhetorical question, there are no large scale OS networks out there, why is that? Why is windows still 85% market share? Why do all major businesses use windows OS? Doesn't have anything to do with how i feel about either OS, its just the environment that we are in now

 

[upinflames900]

I own both a Mac and a windows box and that has nothing to do with anything. Anyone one who "knows" OS's would know that bootcamp allows windows to run naively on the hardware, what is so hard about that?

Yes sorta...it has to emulate a BIOS while Windows actually has a bios. And I imagine there may be other slight differences that may or may not make a difference, hense I asked the question. And again I ask please stick to the question of the thread and stop throwing mud in other people's faces it doesn't help anyone.

 

[P Mentior]

Yes sorta...it has to emulate a BIOS while Windows actually has a bios. And I imagine there may be other slight differences that may or may not make a difference, hense I asked the question. And again I ask please stick to the question of the thread and stop throwing mud in other people's faces it doesn't help anyone.

As of Vista SP1 the 64-bit version can boot via EFI as well as BIOS. Logic would say that Win7 also supports EFI as well but I don't feel like looking it up right now.

 

[upinflames900]

As of Vista SP1 the 64-bit version can boot via EFI as well as BIOS. Logic would say that Win7 also supports EFI as well but I don't feel like looking it up right now.

Okay so using Vista means no difference, using Windows XP means you emulate a BIOS...other than that there are no differences?

 

[The Flashing Fi]

Okay so using Vista means no difference, using Windows XP means you emulate a BIOS...other than that there are no differences?

First of all, I believe it's Vista 64-bit SP1 or higher that has EFI support.

Second of all, I mentioned that at least one program (AutoCAD 2008) has issues with Boot Camp on Macs. I believe 3D Studio Max also suffers from issues as well. The programs work, but the activation does not work properly on some versions.

 

[upinflames900]

First of all, I believe it's Vista 64-bit SP1 or higher that has EFI support.

Second of all, I mentioned that at least one program (AutoCAD 2008) has issues with Boot Camp on Macs. I believe 3D Studio Max also suffers from issues as well. The programs work, but the activation does not work properly on some versions.

Do you get a trill out of throwing things in my face and proving me wrong? Okay thanks to all who actually helped on this thread...in the end he is going with a Windows PC because thats what they require. Thanks for the help.