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Well, that sucks.
iBoySoft makes an app that recovers APFS drives. I've been able to see all the files on my corrupted drive. It requires a monthly subscription so I have decided against it. I'd rather give Alsoft my money for their saves of my data throughout the years and dependability into the future. But it's starting to get hard to justify waiting.
Well, clearly there are some of us whose APFS drives were corrupted. So yes, there is a reason for this app to exist. Otherwise this thread wouldn’t be here.
A Fishrrman kinda-shaky prediction:
With the advent of APFS, DiskWarrior is now dead (at least for the new file system and new Macs).
It will still work for older Macs with older versions of the OS that still run (or use) drives that are HFS+.
But APFS... probably not going to materialize.
With the advent of APFS, DiskWarrior is now dead (at least for the new file system and new Macs).
It will still work for older Macs with older versions of the OS that still run (or use) drives that are HFS+.
But APFS... probably not going to materialize.
There’s clearly still a need for rebuilding directories with APFS, otherwise this thread wouldn’t exist.
I have a hard drive that was corrupted by iPadOS that won’t load but can be read by an APFS recovery tool (iBoySoft). So yes, DiskWarrior still has a future.
I’d rather upgrade my Disk Warrior to v6 than pay a subscription for that app but my patience is running thin. If it’s not out this year, I’ll recover my hard drive with that other app and will move on from Alsoft.
"I also still have a corrupt APFS disc that need saving (if that's even possible)..."
This is why I still recommend using HFS+ instead of APFS on ALL external drives that will be used to store data only (i.e., "non-booting").
Reason:
They might be much easier to do directory repairs or use with data-recovery software if something goes wrong...
This is why I still recommend using HFS+ instead of APFS on ALL external drives that will be used to store data only (i.e., "non-booting").
Reason:
They might be much easier to do directory repairs or use with data-recovery software if something goes wrong...
Hindsight is 20/20.
iPadOS kept unmounting my drive spontaneously until one day it stopped mounting. Maybe that’s fixed now but it left one of my archival drives unable to be mounted. The good news is that the data seems to be all there, it’s just the directory that is broken so it can’t be mounted. It’ll be an easy fix if/when DiskWarrior gets their sh*t together.
ipedro wrote:
"The good news is that the data seems to be all there, it’s just the directory that is broken so it can’t be mounted. It’ll be an easy fix if/when DiskWarrior gets their sh*t together."
I wouldn't count on this happening any time soon.
If ever...
"The good news is that the data seems to be all there, it’s just the directory that is broken so it can’t be mounted. It’ll be an easy fix if/when DiskWarrior gets their sh*t together."
I wouldn't count on this happening any time soon.
If ever...
I officially give up. DiskWarrior's rival, Techtool Pro has now released support for M1 and for APFS. I don't know if it'll be as good as DiskWarrior has been but if it recovers my one broken APFS drive, it'll be worth the license. Going forward, any additional recoveries will be gravy.
Alsoft had earned my longstanding loyalty from saving me from a few disastrous hard drive failures but their lack of communication, other than "we're working on it", has finally broken my patience.
Anyone been using Techtool Pro? Reviews?
Alsoft had earned my longstanding loyalty from saving me from a few disastrous hard drive failures but their lack of communication, other than "we're working on it", has finally broken my patience.
Anyone been using Techtool Pro? Reviews?
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DiskWarrior specifically supported HFS+. I do not think its functionality is needed for APFS, a modern robust file system. APFS maintains its own integrity.
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Is APFS doing its job? Big Sur edition
APFS is almost 4 years old, and set out to solve the problem of accumulation of minor errors which has plagued HFS+. Has it?
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Do you think this thread would exist if there weren't a need for APFS support?DiskWarrior specifically supported HFS+. I do not think its functionality is needed for APFS, a modern robust file system. APFS maintains its own integrity.
Is APFS doing its job? Big Sur edition
APFS is almost 4 years old, and set out to solve the problem of accumulation of minor errors which has plagued HFS+. Has it?
Clearly, those who have been on this thread, on Twitter and on other forums looking for DiskWarrior to support APFS, myself included, have had APFS drives fail.
In my case, it was my iPad Pro with its rickety external drive support, that corrupted my APFS external drive. It's far from infallible.
I have kept my TechTool Pro current up to 13 and will update it to 14. It has worked successfully on my work 2019 iMac that had issues.
Alsoft will be remembered as the company that self-destructed in front of its installed base for not offering ANY explanation whatsoever about its present or future.
To think that the last genuine upgrade is over six years old ... it's unthinkable. Even if Apple is an ***** company, which it is, Alsoft did not even make an effort to keep its clients abreast of the problems it faced in regards to its flagship product. This is a poster case of how NOT to handle your product. They are doomed by their own design.
To think that the last genuine upgrade is over six years old ... it's unthinkable. Even if Apple is an ***** company, which it is, Alsoft did not even make an effort to keep its clients abreast of the problems it faced in regards to its flagship product. This is a poster case of how NOT to handle your product. They are doomed by their own design.
Well, there really wasn't much that Alsoft could do, if Apple wouldn't release the necessary information about AFPS so that 3rd-party software developers could write software for it.
I think a better example of "how to handle it" might be what Coriolis (publishers of iDefrag and iPartition) did when those programs became "obsoleted" by Apple's "progress" -- Coriolis graciously released the apps to the public, free of charge, for use as long as they remained useful.
I think a better example of "how to handle it" might be what Coriolis (publishers of iDefrag and iPartition) did when those programs became "obsoleted" by Apple's "progress" -- Coriolis graciously released the apps to the public, free of charge, for use as long as they remained useful.
Apple released the specs and documentation well over a year ago, probably two — I’ve lost count. Alsoft is just stringing us along. I’ve since moved on. They’ve lost all the goodwill they had built up with loyal customers over many years.
Looks like this page did get an update. Here's what it says now:
The delay might have been in making code for both x64 and Apple Silicon.
It also doesn't help that Apple keeps revising APFS with each major release of the OSes such that earlier OSes literally can't understand later versions of APFS (try getting a Mac running High Sierra to mount a disk formatted with Mojave..)
It makes me think that they might require DW 6.0, whenever it appears, to be running the latest version of Monterey or Mammoth whenever it gets released.
Saying they're going to have M1 support is a tiny comfort at least.
Also, they need to get a new product out soon as possible, IMHO while their sales of DW 5.2 is probably a nonzero number, it's probably not enough to keep them going indefinitely, and their other products are quite probably at zero income levels. (MasterJuggler? PlusOptimizer?!)
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The difference is that, as a formerly happy DiskWarrior customer, I would’ve purchased v6 the day it was released, whether or not I needed it. Now, I’ll consider it if I ever come across a APFS directory specific issue. With APFS, macOS’ own Disk Utility can fix most issues and there are other tools that can read and export files from a corrupted APFS drive.
It’s pretty clear that the once mighty Alsoft has lost their mojo and if they can come up with an APFS recovery tool, so can one of the far more active developers. If I ever bought DiskWarrior, it’d be purely transactional for an already broken drive that can’t be fixed otherwise versus an automatic purchase version after version from the loyalty and support that they have built over decades.
The goodwill has been lost, as has this customer.
