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Ehhhh....we're pretty much going back to cable, aren't we?
Yeah I’ve already canceled Max, Discover+, and I currently get Disney+/Hulu/ESPN through Verizon free. I’m down to paying for Netflix 2 screens, and that’s it. $40/mo is the number I’ve said I’m unwilling to go beyond for streaming. If that leaves me ultimately with only getting 1-2 streaming services, fine. But I will not pay $50, $60, $70 per month for streaming services because they’ve all gotten greedy.
 
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So if this re-merging is just cable all over again, why isn’t it cheaper since the cable middleman was cut out?

Because as it turns out, making content is really expensive, and keeping all their original content for themselves means losing out on additional revenue streams such as licensing them to other platforms.
 
Funny all the people that complain about pricing. We've never had so much content for so little money in history. Look at any of the big streamers content budgets and it's clear it was unsustainable as soon as ZIRP was over.

I hope everyone has a big backlog built up because prices are going up and there is going to be less content created.
 
Well said however I beg to differ on grounds that Disney is not in the least interesting to me at this point. Their content is boring and flatulent. And thank gawd I had my kids last century - so we went to Disneyland with some discount tickets. One time pain inflicted and recovered from. The idea of $19.99/mo (or thereabouts) on a family screen addiction to their content now heaps upon a swelling burden of subscriptions. No thanks.
 
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Eh, predict there will be a lot of doom-mongering on this,

but… honestly…

It will all be fine! It’s how we have it in the UK & Europe already. The parental controls are effective and the content is nicely presented.
I don’t see any separate Hulu content in Disney+ (I’m in Belgium). There is a category “Star” though. Is that it?
 
I don’t see any separate Hulu content in Disney+ (I’m in Belgium). There is a category “Star” though. Is that it?
Na, Hulu is not mentioned at all. i.e. Marvel’s M.O.D.O.K. is Hulu content in the U.S.. Same with Futurama.
 
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How many more years before apps are more expensive and ******** than cable?

Considering that I can cancel and move on a whim, it's no where near cable. We had DirecTV for years, and I don't think it was every under $100, all the way back into the mid 90s, plus you had to sign contracts.

My total monthly tv streaming bill for myself and the wife? $19.99. If you add music, $34.98
 
Will Hulu then be rolled out internationally?

It already is and called Star and the best part is, that we do not have to pay extra for it. Star is getting all the Hulu Originals and much more. Only US Network shows (like from FOX) are not necessarily on Star right away since local tv networks probably have first look deals in place abroad
 
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Just as long as we don't lose the vast collection of HIMS.com commercials. I don't know where I would be without my every-twenty-minutes dose of information about how to resolve my ED and hair loss problems.
 
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Just as long as we don't lose the vast collection of HIMS.com commercials. I don't know where I would be without my every-twenty-minutes dose of information about how to resolve my ED and hair loss problems.
You can pay extra not to see ads. The only time I see an ad these days is watching sports. It’s almost like a novelty to see an ad for me at this point. It’s an oh wow ads still exists moment.
 
Considering that I can cancel and move on a whim, it's no where near cable. We had DirecTV for years, and I don't think it was every under $100, all the way back into the mid 90s, plus you had to sign contracts.

My total monthly tv streaming bill for myself and the wife? $19.99. If you add music, $34.98
Kind of an apples to oranges comparison. You're comparing a time when you had access to essentially every piece of "television" media produced to a time where you have actively rejected 90% of what is available to save money.

Good on you for having the self control and discipline to recognize that TV is not the most important thing in your life.
But streaming companies are not happy with people like you, and the more people like you that there are that refuse to pony up for all these subscriptions, the less fragmentation we will have.

The only way the consumer wins is by rejecting the movement.
 
Cable has been cheaper for a while with what I’m paying. It’s getting confusing as well with bundles, subscription perks through companies like Verizon, subscribing through Apple vs outside, etc.
 
(1) Bob Iger retired as Disney CEO in 2020. He returned to CEO position in late November 2022.

(2) Revenue has not declined "precipitously since Bob Iger took over"... neither during his 1st time as CEO from Oct. 2005, nor during his 2nd stint from Nov. 2022.

Disney Fiscal Year Revenue

FY2009 (ended Oct. 03, 2009) = $36.149 billion
FY2010 (ended Oct. 02, 2010) = $38.063 billion
FY2011 (ended Oct. 01, 2011) = $40.893 billion
FY2012 (ended Sep. 29, 2012) = $42.278 billion
FY2013 (ended Sep. 28, 2013) = $45.041 billion
FY2014 (ended Sep. 27, 2014) = $48.813 billion
FY2015 (ended Oct. 03, 2015) = $52.465 billion
FY2016 (ended Oct. 01, 2016) = $55.632 billion
FY2017 (ended Sep. 30, 2017)= $55.137 billion
FY2018 (ended Sep. 29, 2018) = $59.424 billion
FY2019 (ended Sep. 28, 2019) = $69.607 billion
FY2020 (ended Oct. 03, 2020) = $65.388 billion (decline due to Covid pandemic)
FY2021 (ended Oct. 02, 2021) = $67.418 billion
FY2022 (ended Oct. 01, 2022) = $82.722 billion
FY2023 (ended Sep. 30, 2023) = $88.898 billion



Both parties made a deal in 2019 where Disney has to buy the 33 percent stake in Hulu owned by Comcast. Disney gained majority ownership of Hulu when Disney bought 21st Century Fox in 2019.

As for Disney's purchase of Pixar, Lucasfilm, and Marvel, those have paid off very well for Disney over the years.

Hulu (and Netflix) are the only two profitable streaming services, so Disney acquiring full ownership is not a bad move.



(1) This occurred during Bob Chapek's tenure as CEO, not Bob Igers.
(2) Disney is in no box. The outcome of the lawsuits haven't even been determine yet.

Get your facts straight.
I have them straight. Everything I wrote is true. Gross revenue is NOT net income. Nor is it market share. Nor is it share price. You've created a false narrative, both of Disney's strength and it's political outlook. The Reedy Creek district run by Disney has been dissolved, and replaced by a DeSantis-handpicked board of directors. I don't see either reversing in the foreseeable future.

However, rather than defending them on a forum, perhaps you should invest your money in Disney. If you already did, you know how much you lost. If you haven't, why not take a chance that you're right and prove me wrong?
 
We canceled Disney plus and never liked Hulu. I have all the Disney classic movies on iTunes and we do watch them often. IMO, Disney lost it’s way with 24x7 social messaging in your face. This is a perfect case study on how to destroy a brand.
We had Hulu Live TV (the wife likes the old fashioned TV channel lineup) and at some point Hulu raised the price and threw in Disney+. Hulu Live buffered constantly, even in a hardwired console. And then they started piping in a ridiculous amount of HIV drug ads in the early evening. Don’t know what the hell was up with whatever algorithms pick ads for individual subscribers, but the whole thing was more than a little odd. I‘m not talking about an occasional ad, I mean showing one or more during every single commercial break across multiple live channels.

As for Disney+, we watched a few Star Wars related things and that’s about it. Our 11 year old was never into any of the Marvel crap and on the very rare occasions that he chose to use Disney+, he went for the NatGeo content.

I canceled the whole thing and haven’t missed it. Currently using YouTube TV for live TV. The UI is atrocious, but we don’t have any technical or content issues.
 
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But does it have annual fees?
Does it give cash back as well?
Because my no annual fee cash back card easily exceeds $7*3*12 in a year.

Of course, this depends on how much money you can funnel through the card, so your results may vary.
My AmEx Blue Cash has no annual fee and I'm offered this promo. Up to $84 back when done on a month to month basis.
 
I don't have Disney + but subscribe to Hulu. I hope they do not force us to have both or neither. I am quite happy with Hulu and Disney+ is a waste of money for us.
that's the entire point. it'll be one application.
 
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