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jdb8167

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No. Like everything else, it is just luck. I sold my first-gen 12.9" iPad Pro to a friend last year that was bought in September 2015. It worked up until about a month ago when it started spontaneously rebooting. They took it to the Apple Store which declared it dead. I still think it was just the battery but the Apple store genius claimed otherwise. There was a good outcome anyway since Apple gave my friend a $250 gift card for their trouble. This was more than the trade in value of the iPad even if it was working so all good.
 

sracer

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No. Like everything else, it is just luck. I sold my first-gen 12.9" iPad Pro to a friend last year that was bought in September 2015. It worked up until about a month ago when it started spontaneously rebooting. They took it to the Apple Store which declared it dead. I still think it was just the battery but the Apple store genius claimed otherwise. There was a good outcome anyway since Apple gave my friend a $250 gift card for their trouble. This was more than the trade in value of the iPad even if it was working so all good.
My 1st gen 12.9 Pro began to exhibit "touch disease" where it would periodically not respond to touches on certain parts of the screen. Thankfully, it didn't exhibit this behavior when I traded it in at Best Buy (who was aware of the issue and performed a test as part of their trade-in examination in spite of Apple's denials that the issue existed)
 

_karrol

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Oct 27, 2017
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I bought my first iPad (the Retina Mini) exactly 8 years ago, in 2013, and had been using it for a number of years. Now my mum is using it - still works well, it just got reeeeaaaaaally slow and the battery obviously took a hit as well.
 

anthony13

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Jul 1, 2012
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I have a 4th generation "iPad Retina" that I bought back in 2014. It was my main iPad for a number of years, for work and personal use. It eventually got retired pretty late in its life so I kept it instead of trying to sell it on since it was worth very little.

I keep it at my weekend place and mostly use it at night to watch YT or videos while I fall asleep. Otherwise it stays on charge for 1, 2 even 3 weeks at a time.

The thing never quits. Last night I feel asleep and YT kept playing all night. I woke up to some random video and the battery was still over 70%.

I just wanted to post this in my amazement of how well made and robust these little computers are.
The main thing I took from your post is that I have to stop buying iPad's every couple years and I'll be able to afford a weekend place.
 
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Hunter5117

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Alas, don't have any working ones of the old 30-pin cables so can't charge the OG iPhone, 4, 4S and iPod touch 4th gen.
These are still available, at least my local Micro Center still has them. I have a few still working and the only 30pin device I have left is my iPod Classic which I also use quite frequently.
 

nastysailboat

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I have a 4th generation "iPad Retina" that I bought back in 2014. It was my main iPad for a number of years, for work and personal use. It eventually got retired pretty late in its life so I kept it instead of trying to sell it on since it was worth very little.

I keep it at my weekend place and mostly use it at night to watch YT or videos while I fall asleep. Otherwise it stays on charge for 1, 2 even 3 weeks at a time.

The thing never quits. Last night I feel asleep and YT kept playing all night. I woke up to some random video and the battery was still over 70%.

I just wanted to post this in my amazement of how well made and robust these little computers are.
My 4th gen iPad just stopped connecting to WiFi
 

zidarko

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I have the first iPad pro that I bought in 2016. The battery is faltering and the screen has a red hue but as it's still going strong. I used for couch surfing and travel.

In this respect it's way more durable than all Apple devices but an Apple Time Capsule (11 years and still going) I own or have owned.
 

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My air 1 (2013) became unusable on the internet and it still got me a trade in at Apple store for a new one this year. It ran apps OK.
 

stinkhorn9

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My air 1 (2013) became unusable on the internet and it still got me a trade in at Apple store for a new one this year. It ran apps OK.
This is me. (Although it's still fine on the internet, you need the patience to wait a full minute for Hotmail to load...)
Did Apple honour the trade-in value? (In my case, they're saying £50. New iPad arriving early December.)
 

400

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This is me. (Although it's still fine on the internet, you need the patience to wait a full minute for Hotmail to load...)
Did Apple honour the trade-in value? (In my case, they're saying £50. New iPad arriving early December.)
I went to the shop earlier in the year, 60 notes, it was mint and that was with no screen protector. They saw it powered up, we ran through the reset, they did a scan with their device and told me the amount and do I agreee and discount applied to the new M1 there and then.
 

Skewlovevism

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That’s amazing, these devices work for many years in a row. We have an Air 2 in the house that still works and gets the occasional use by the kids. Good stuff.
The house still works and kids occasionally use it? You have air too, in the house? Sorry, just teasing you.(that is how it ends up if you read it out loud and not see the spelling) ;)
 
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Skewlovevism

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The two iPad Airs I owned in the past both randomly died on me, one where the screen stopped accepting input, and one that wouldn't even turn on at all. Both of these were sudden and unexpected; I woke up one day and it was just like that. The Air 3 I have now has lines randomly showing up in the screen, but still functions well besides.

I've also had a 2013 MBP just one day expand the battery into a "spicy pillow" that destroyed the machine, and a 2017 MBP that started frying eveything I plugged into the left side USB ports. Again, unprompted, just suddenly happened. Well cared-for machines.
I wonder, if you have checked your wall plug, if it doesn’t spike. Or if you use extension cord or something.
I have a “ghost” plug at home, which kills everything I plug in, in matter of time. Too expensive to fix, so i bought an extesion cord with spike protection and so far so good. But only use it if necessary, still worried a bit
 

Skewlovevism

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Q: Do iPads live forever?

A: The older the generation of iPad, the longer they'll live.

My iPad 1 (day-1 pre-order) is still going strong. I highly doubt that the current generation iPads (Pro and non-Pro) will last as long.
This.
my iPad 1gen, lasts on standby about a month. My iPad pro 12.9 2018, a few days.

I use iPad 1 more than pro, as I like the old calendar the best (for my work), GarageBand (I do mostly midi piano) and play some legacy games.yes, it is slower and unsupported and all, but there is something about that machine, I just enjoy. and definitely like the iOS 6 look.

Pro, i use for drawing/graphics and GarageBand.
 

ericwn

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Apr 24, 2016
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The house still works and kids occasionally use it? You have air too, in the house? Sorry, just teasing you.(that is how it ends up if you read it out loud and not see the spelling) ;)

I can assure you that my German mindset didn’t intend any humour as we lack the capacity but if you find it entertaining that’s great
 

MajorFubar

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Oct 27, 2021
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Still using my ancient mk1 iPad Air, which replaced an iPad 4 that my wife was still using until literally a week ago when she inherited one of my sons' iPad Air 2's after an upgrade. So yes. Certainly the original iPad Air and and earlier are almost completely indestructible unless you mistreat them. New ones, only time will tell.

However I expect new ones to become technically obsolete quicker than the old ones did. My Air, launched in 2013 with iOS 7, was still able to receive iOS updates upto and including 2017's iOS 12 (latest update was to 12.5.5 during September this year). I might be wrong but I expect more recent iPads will got out of date quicker.
 

lartola

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Feb 10, 2017
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I still have my 1st generation iPad around the house which is used to play music ?, still going with no battery replacement!
So does mine. The 1st iPad Air I bought afterwards, however, wasn’t as good. I bought it in 2014 and the battery stopped working in 2018, at which time I had to go to the Apple store and got a replacement ipad air from apple (for ipads they replace the whole unit instead of just changing the battery like they do for iphones). I also bought a 10.5” ipad pro around that time, which still works fine after almost 4 years, but knowing Apple I’m expecting the battery to start acting up very soon.
 
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lartola

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Still using my ancient mk1 iPad Air, which replaced an iPad 4 that my wife was still using until literally a week ago when she inherited one of my sons' iPad Air 2's after an upgrade. So yes. Certainly the original iPad Air and and earlier are almost completely indestructible unless you mistreat them. New ones, only time will tell.

However I expect new ones to become technically obsolete quicker than the old ones did. My Air, launched in 2013 with iOS 7, was still able to receive iOS updates upto and including 2017's iOS 12 (latest update was to 12.5.5 during September this year). I might be wrong but I expect more recent iPads will got out of date quicker.
I’d say 4th gen ipad and earlier. The 1st gen Air didn’t have a good battery, mine started acting up after only 3.5 years of use and had to get a replacement from Apple (they don’t change ipad batteries like they do with iphones). Of course, the good quality of earlier ipads made people hold on to them for much longer, seriously hurting Apple’s yearly sales to the point of them
no longer being able to release new ipads yearly after the 1st gen Air, so Apple had to lower the quality of the product in later generations to ensure more sales every year.
 
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lartola

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No. Like everything else, it is just luck. I sold my first-gen 12.9" iPad Pro to a friend last year that was bought in September 2015. It worked up until about a month ago when it started spontaneously rebooting. They took it to the Apple Store which declared it dead. I still think it was just the battery but the Apple store genius claimed otherwise. There was a good outcome anyway since Apple gave my friend a $250 gift card for their trouble. This was more than the trade in value of the iPad even if it was working so all good.
It probably was the battery, but Apple doesn’t replace ipad batteries like they do with iphone batteries. Instead, they give you a replacement ipad of the same model. With your friend, they probably were out of stock of the 1st gen ipad Pro, so they gave him the gift card instead.
 
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rui no onna

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However I expect new ones to become technically obsolete quicker than the old ones did. My Air, launched in 2013 with iOS 7, was still able to receive iOS updates upto and including 2017's iOS 12 (latest update was to 12.5.5 during September this year). I might be wrong but I expect more recent iPads will got out of date quicker.

It's the opposite. We had rapid hardware improvements during the early iPad days. Those have slowed down now so I actually expect the Air/mini/Pro lines to have at least 8 years software support similar to the Air 2.

The basic iPads often use 2+ year old processors upon release and tend to be skimpier on RAM so those, I don't expect to be supported as long. Maybe 5+ years.
 

stinkhorn9

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Mar 29, 2020
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I went to the shop earlier in the year, 60 notes, it was mint and that was with no screen protector. They saw it powered up, we ran through the reset, they did a scan with their device and told me the amount and do I agreee and discount applied to the new M1 there and then.
Interesting - I didn’t think of doing the trade-in in person...
 
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