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Do you like Liquid Glass on Mac?

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I mean it was a fair hypothesis from @turbineseaplane and may very well be true. We really could be outliers. Who knows!

I'm really interested to see where this all ends up in a few years time.
Probably back where we started. A few years after the change, someone will have a "revolutionary" idea to change the design back to what it was before (because they don't remember it ever being that way).
 
Probably back where we started. A few years after the change, someone will have a "revolutionary" idea to change the design back to what it was before (because they don't remember it ever being that way).
While I have fond memories of early OS X, I really don't want to go back there. Maybe the youth will get all serious and yearn for plainness, and we get something more System 9 like... 😆
 
Apple really left a lot of pros and prosumers alike in the dust. Gone are the days of pro apps like Aperture and OS innovations like Grand Central Dispatch. We're in the emoticon in iMessages era. I preferred the former. And that has precisely nothing to do with my age.
logic pro, final cut pro. pro apps, used by pros, to do pro work.
 
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Sure, but the complaint (in my case) wasn't really about emojis. I just used them as an example to prove a point: The fact that Apple emphasizes playful "toy features" over substantial OS innovations in their presentations of new macOS updates. A metaphor, if you will.

I am not complaining about emojis, I am complaining about a lack of innovation.

Apple really left a lot of pros and prosumers alike in the dust. Gone are the days of pro apps like Aperture and OS innovations like Grand Central Dispatch. We're in the emoticon in iMessages era. I preferred the former. And that has precisely nothing to do with my age.

I was about to argue with you but in addition to the pro/prosumer apps you mention there's so much useful stuff happening for Linux (immutability, filesystems, app installation) and Windows (winget, WSL, heck even Powertoys). Even looking at macOS itself, there's a lot of stuff that could be done around menubar icon apps (gently suggesting apps move to the control panel is a timid first step).

It's kind of crazy that winget is officially supported, and Homebrew is a bit of a community-made kludge.
 
good then that there are so many third-party apps, to serve so many functions. seems apple is (currently) content to support logic and final cut (& they're doing that with updates, improvements). pretty good time to be a macuser 🤔

It's always easy to dismiss the pain points of others when you're not affected yourself.

I remember the outcries that went on for years when Apple "toyed down" Final Cut. And I am pretty sure I will see rivers of tears if Apple removes one or both of the last remaining "pro apps" they still have.
 
It's always easy to dismiss the pain points of others when you're not affected yourself.

I remember the outcries that went on for years when Apple "toyed down" Final Cut. And I am pretty sure I will see rivers of tears if Apple removes one or both of the last remaining "pro apps" they still have.
"pain points'? are you saying that ppl haven't found alternatives to aperture'? it was discontinued in 2014 🤔

i'll worry about logic & final cut IF & WHEN i have to; right now, am continuing to use both (& having a great time) 👍
 
"pain points'? are you saying that ppl haven't found alternatives to aperture'? it was discontinued in 2014 🤔

i'll worry about logic & final cut IF & WHEN i have to; right now, am continuing to use both (& having a great time) 👍

Good for you.

And yes, believe it or not, people are still looking for something that can replace Aperture. Many are missing it dearly. This was just discussed in another thread here.

Anyways, the point wasn't Aperture, the point was that Apple has shifted its focus to consumers, entirely, when it used to be pros and prosumers. There is no denying that. This thread right here is a testament to that.
 
Good for you.

And yes, believe it or not, people are still looking for something that can replace Aperture. Many are missing it dearly. This was just discussed in another thread here.

Anyways, the point wasn't Aperture, the point was that Apple has shifted its focus to consumers, entirely, when it used to be pros and prosumers. There is no denying that. This thread right here is a testament to that.
there's no denying it? again, logic. final cut. and how many developers have abandoned apps over the years? yet ppl survive, find new tools.

also, when you say 'Many are missing it dearly'... is there a source for this statement? or is it just what you believe... 🤔
 
I still haven't found a real replacement for Aperture.

ON1 RAW or Lightroom are probably the closest, however they still lag behind Aperture in some key areas.

It's a ridiculous situating that all these years later there still isn't much available to equal Aperture.
 
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I love the liquid glass look but I'd like to see it implemented with all apps. I now have a jarring mix of glass, and how apps like Pages were previously. Hopefully these will be updated.
 
After reading many conflicting and polar opinions on liquid glass I can only find myself wondering 'is that it?'

After upgrading my M4 mini I'm struggling to have strong opinions either way. It looks fresh and isn't offensive to me in any way but that about the limit of my excitement.

I haven't bothered with my phone yet as I'm getting a new one on Friday.
 
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I think it's pretty ok. It's a reasonable visual refresh and that's about it. They did clean up some minor annoyances and fix some broken bits of UI from years ago.

I can only find one regression after a few hours which is it's now no longer possible to scrub with the touchpad on Apple Music. Bug filed. I'm sure they will fix it. And in contacts the new backgrounds are a bit jittery. Again I'm sure that'll disappear in the .1.

If I compare this to a windows release, which in the last 20 years they still haven't managed to finish the UI rewrite from Vista yet...
 
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Can someone explain to me how this

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is consistent with this?

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If they’re going to keep the original radius for only some windows, then why change them at all? What is the improvement?

I don’t care whatever “forward thinking”, new, trendy excuses Apple has - this is just plain stupid and is a waste of screen estate. There is zero benefit to having such rounded windows, and only drawbacks as now my 14 inch MBP feels about as cramped as my old 12 inch MB.
 
The radius depends on whether it's a window with a toolbar or not. I'm guessing it's the reasoning behind it. Below is safari with top right toolbar buttons alongside a Terminal window, then same Terminal window on top of safari's, Terminal's radius is exactly the same as safari toolbar's. The radius is actually consistent with which type of window we're looking at.

Having said that I agree it gets some getting used to, but there are a lot of apps that will actually not have this sort of "extended radius".

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The radius depends on whether it's a window with a toolbar or not.
No because both Pages and Safari have a toolbar. It either has to do with an application still having a titlebar or the application in question really hasn’t been updated yet.
 
One thing I've instantly come across is the volume adjustment now appears at the top right rather in the middle of the screen...I much preferred the latter!
 
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There is zero benefit to having such rounded windows, and only drawbacks as now my 14 inch MBP feels about as cramped as my old 12 inch MB.

This is absolutely my main issue with it also.

It's effectively reducing the usable size of whatever screen you are using with Tahoe..and for seemingly no actual benefit.

It's not like this was a concession for macOS to now work great with touch or something.
 
Can someone explain to me how this

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is consistent with this?

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If they’re going to keep the original radius for only some windows, then why change them at all? What is the improvement?

I don’t care whatever “forward thinking”, new, trendy excuses Apple has - this is just plain stupid and is a waste of screen estate. There is zero benefit to having such rounded windows, and only drawbacks as now my 14 inch MBP feels about as cramped as my old 12 inch MB.
The second screen looks so much better. Wow. What have we lost?
 
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