I am going to be buying a tower in august so hopefully it will be coming with panther. That way I will not have to pay for the OS alone.
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Do you need to buy Panther?
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While I'd certainly welcome it, I'd be incredibly suprised if 10.3 was a free upgrade like 10.1. I think 10.1 was only free because 10.0 really felt like an incomplete OS. 10.0 was kind of just there for those who wanted to get acquainted with the OS early on, 10.1 was the first real version of OSX IMO.
I wouldn't, however, be suprised if the price of the boxed OS dropped a little bit. I can't see Panther having nearly as many advancements as Jaguar, and the $129 price last time made people a little testy... I'm guessing it'll at least have a price drop to $99, maybe even a bit lower than that.
Arigato,
Brook
I wouldn't, however, be suprised if the price of the boxed OS dropped a little bit. I can't see Panther having nearly as many advancements as Jaguar, and the $129 price last time made people a little testy... I'm guessing it'll at least have a price drop to $99, maybe even a bit lower than that.
Arigato,
Brook
Originally posted by 5300cs
I never saw it free, I was told it would be a reduced $19.95 for the people who purchased 10.0, but only for a 90 day period.
Guess I missed out ...
Yup.
My dad and I got free copies at our local reseller (Mac specialty store, not a big box).
We walked in and I mentioned the 10.1 upgrade and he passed us two boxes with 10.1 CDs in them, no questions asked or hassles.
I still have mine actually. It's a nice little box-envelope thingy that didn't come with the mailed-out 10.1 discs, though the mailer version did include a copy of Developer Tools on CD.
Anyway, my mom's a teacher, and if they do the X for teachers thing, I think I'll just get her to order a copy of Panther if it's another $129.
I only really paid $40 for Jaguar and wouldn't think of paying more than that for what should have been 10.0 final.
Eh, 10.1 was incomplete too. Jaguar was the first version of OSX where it acted like it was supposed to and started regaining key features that were missing despite being present in MacOS since System 7.
Making 10.3 a full pay upgrade would be foolish at this point. Mac TCO is already high enough without tacking on $129/yr for OS upgrades. Even MS isn't that stupid.
Originally posted by AppleMatt
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AppleMatt
If Apple uses the Up-To-Date program for any of those, you can use the coupons as proof-of-purchase to get free or discounted upgrades.
nope wrong again. 10.1 was free is you had a local dealer or apple store in your area. it was 20 dollars covering shipping and handling fees.Originally posted by 5300cs
I never saw it free, I was told it would be a reduced $19.95 for the people who purchased 10.0, but only for a 90 day period.
Guess I missed out ...
iJon
Doh! I'm 0 for 2 today! Thanks for pointing that out iJon. I paid full price for 10.1 because I was in Japan at the time, no Apple stores here (though I was told by another Mac guy that one day they were giving away free CDs downtown in the electronics district. One day only.. aarrgh.) I got my friend with a college ID to buy Jaguar for me; much smarter second time around
I think 10.1 was OK, but I agree that 10.2 is what made/makes OS X really shine. IMHO 10.1 was much better than 10.0, and 10.2 vastly better than 10.1. Can't wait to see what Apple has up their collective sleeves for 10.3.
By the way, any rumors on OS XI or is that too far-fetched?
The "free" 10.1 update thing was there because 10.0 was useless. Fun to play with, but by no means usefull for any serious work.
As the Public Beta of X wasn't free, as wasn't 10.0, the 10.1 upgrade CD had to be free (or almost) to 10.0 owners. Remember that the 10.1 upgrade CD asked for an installed version of 10.0 on your hard drive.
I bet (and hope really) 10.3 is a paid-for new OS. I try to see 10.2 and 10.3 as new systems. (Like Win 2k, and Xp, and Longhorn). Treating it as a new OS gives you the impression that you're buying something new, with new features, better stability, and so on.
I'll bet ya 10.3 will be worth US$ 129,99
As the Public Beta of X wasn't free, as wasn't 10.0, the 10.1 upgrade CD had to be free (or almost) to 10.0 owners. Remember that the 10.1 upgrade CD asked for an installed version of 10.0 on your hard drive.
I bet (and hope really) 10.3 is a paid-for new OS. I try to see 10.2 and 10.3 as new systems. (Like Win 2k, and Xp, and Longhorn). Treating it as a new OS gives you the impression that you're buying something new, with new features, better stability, and so on.
I'll bet ya 10.3 will be worth US$ 129,99
That's the point: I think it's a new OS, not an upgrade.... Adding stuff like force feedback, or removing bugs = upgrades.
Rebuilding the kernel, adding new features (like Quartz Extreme in Jag) = new OS.
Ofcourse I don't know what these new features will be, but I'm sure they'll be worth the $129,99 box!
Originally posted by MacsRgr8
That's the point: I think it's a new OS, not an upgrade.... Adding stuff like force feedback, or removing bugs = upgrades.
Rebuilding the kernel, adding new features (like Quartz Extreme in Jag) = new OS.
Ofcourse I don't know what these new features will be, but I'm sure they'll be worth the $129,99 box!
Hmm, okay your just a bit nutz.
That's okay though since Apple likes the Crazy Ones. They said so themselves. I think that an OS should not be over $99.95 and that the student version should be half that.
Originally posted by MacBandit
Hmm, okay your just a bit nutz.
Wow.... $49.99 for Panther. Less features for students, I suppose...
So Apple should release a brand new OS every year and charge $129 for it? 10.2 came out in AUGUST!!
BTW, when I think 'new OS' I think System 7 to OS8 or OS9 to OSX or Win95 to Win98 or WinMe to WinXP.
Those are truly new OS releases. OS 10.1 to 10.2 was not a new OS but a significantly upgraded version of the same one. Apple can do a point upgrade every 8 months to a year. What they cannot do is release a true new OS every year. Even if they could, nobody (especially businesses who might otherwise be interested in new Mac hardware) is going to shell out $129 a year to keep their machine running the newest OS.
It's a ridiculous frequency, and will scare away potential switchers as well as current Mac owners who'd like to get new Mac hardware (example: "I'd like to get a new iMac, but OSX updates cost $129/year. I'll stick with my old PowerMac running OS 8.5").
If you look at MS, they release a new OS about every three years. Why would Apple, already charging a premium for hardware, charge a crippling 3x rate on its OS as well? TCO would be through the roof!