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fyrefly

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Jun 27, 2004
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Wait another week. I've heard possibilities of Apple Black Friday specials.

Wait for the Black Friday specials, don't wait for an upgrade in January. It makes absolutely no sense. Of course there are bemoaners about the PBG4 and iMac updates right b4 they went Intel in Jan 06. But there's no reason or hardware upgrade path for them to upgrade the air with.

The RevB Air already has a brand new Penryn processor (next intel processor bump will happen in March/April - and next overhaul is next fall). It has a top of the line SSD (look at those speed tests) and the biggest 1.8" HDD that will fit inside it.

It will also not get the Glass screen (heavier) nor will it get the glass trackpad (heavier/Apple's engineers have stated they can't fit it inside the air's tiny thin case at that point). Plus, the MBAs trackpad with sliver button already supports everything the MB/MBA Glass ones do - so why change it when it works with the rest of the top of the line.
 

thechungster

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Nov 12, 2008
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Wait for the Black Friday specials, don't wait for an upgrade in January. It makes absolutely no sense. Of course there are bemoaners about the PBG4 and iMac updates right b4 they went Intel in Jan 06. But there's no reason or hardware upgrade path for them to upgrade the air with.

The RevB Air already has a brand new Penryn processor (next intel processor bump will happen in March/April - and next overhaul is next fall). It has a top of the line SSD (look at those speed tests) and the biggest 1.8" HDD that will fit inside it.

It will also not get the Glass screen (heavier) nor will it get the glass trackpad (heavier/Apple's engineers have stated they can't fit it inside the air's tiny thin case at that point). Plus, the MBAs trackpad with sliver button already supports everything the MB/MBA Glass ones do - so why change it when it works with the rest of the top of the line.

All those points are true. Just wondering, how big is the HDD used in the iPod classic (160GB). Isn't it 1.8"? :confused:
I just need the SSD to drop in price, which it will hopefully.
 

Apple Ink

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Mar 7, 2008
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Simply put.... no!

Its wayyy too early for Apple to do that and I hope that they rather dont! Those things are stunning at the moment and gorgeous to hold!
 

HLdan

macrumors 603
Aug 22, 2007
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Some of you guys put too much emphasis on notebook updates. The entire line has had an update in October and now it's time for an iLife, Mac Pro and Mac mini update. The mini hasn't been updated in over a year, it's due for a redesign and it's my prediction that we will see the first preview of Snow Leopard, get intro'd to the new iLife suite and a redesign of the mini and Mac Pro line and that's more than enough to cover an entire Macworld show. The notebooks are done for now.
 

CoreyMac

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Jul 10, 2008
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I'm pretty sure that the Tosh. Portege R500 is about 2~ pounds. Not that groundbreaking, sorry. Plus IMO carbon fiber looks and feels much cheaper than aluminum, though it is a very expensive material.

Pretty sure you're missing the point. The Protege is around 2.5lbs, but has a smaller screen, slower cpu, slower ram, slower bus speed, slower graphics, thicker, much smaller trackpad and $2,999.....

a $2,499 MacBook Air that would be half the thickness of the Protege (as it already is I believe) and around the same weight as the Protege would be groundbreaking considering how much more beefed up the specs actually are.
 

Molopo

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Jul 23, 2008
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Pretty sure you're missing the point. The Protege is around 2.5lbs, but has a smaller screen, slower cpu, slower ram, slower bus speed, slower graphics, thicker, much smaller trackpad and $2,999.....

a $2,499 MacBook Air that would be half the thickness of the Protege (as it already is I believe) and around the same weight as the Protege would be groundbreaking considering how much more beefed up the specs actually are.

Portege r500 is 1.7 pounds, 2.4 with the adapter.... 1 inch thick (.76 =/= half of 1). Available from ecomElectronics for $1,300 (http://www.ecomelectronics.com/prodinfo.phtml?id=3897&ref=froogle). Three USB ports, mini-FW, PC card slot... Yes, it isn't nearly as good as the air in terms of processing and graphics, but in terms of weight, portability, and versatility, it wins. Also keep in mind that it was released at the same time the rev. A MBA was, so of course it isn't going to be able to compete well with rev. B, released more than half a year later with a breakthrough integrated graphics chip. At the risk of turning this post into even more of a Toshiba ad, I'll stop here >_>.
 

Heavenkittykat

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Jan 6, 2008
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I don't like the glass thing that they made with the macbook and macbook pro. I like the MBA the way that it is now. If ever there is a chance that they will redesign macbook air, I don't want it to have the same look as the glassbook.
 

thechungster

macrumors regular
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Nov 12, 2008
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No. The glass adds weight. They won't change it a bit.

Maybe they can shed some weight off the internals? :rolleyes:
Like how they manage to put the glass on the MacBook, and make it lighter at the same time, shedding weight on the internals :p
 

r6girl

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Sep 6, 2003
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I don't like the glass thing that they made with the macbook and macbook pro. I like the MBA the way that it is now.

I feel exactly the same way. I still think the completely-aluminum look of the previous MacBook Pros and PowerBooks are modern and sleek and I'm glad I got my Air before Apple changes this (if they even plan to). The glass screens with the black border make them look cheaper, IMHO.
 

Maven1975

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Aug 24, 2008
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I think the next major update will include USB 3.0. (Late next year) Currently, there is no reason for them to update it aside from adding 4GB of total ram.
 

Barham

macrumors regular
Feb 5, 2004
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I was worried about the look of the notebooks until I went into a store to check them out myself. The new MacBooks and Pros look, as Steve would say, simply stunning. The MBA, which is still the most attractive overall design, looks dated without the glass, and the button seems archaic compared to the new trackpads.

I've been following Apple for quite some time now (not as long as others here, I know) and my guess is that these little inconsistencies are currently burrowing into Steve's brain right now (That last remaining button alone probably keeps him up at night). I wouldn't put it past him to raise the weight of the machine to compensate for irregularities in the appearance of the product line.
 

HLdan

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Aug 22, 2007
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How hard would it be to use glossy plastic instead of glass under the same construction design used with the glass on the MB/P

It defeats the purpose. Apple's Modus Operandi is to use glass and aluminum. You're idea is just to match the look of the rest of the line, that wouldn't make sense to use plastic just for looks.
 

Barham

macrumors regular
Feb 5, 2004
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It defeats the purpose. Apple's Modus Operandi is to use glass and aluminum. You're idea is just to match the look of the rest of the line, that wouldn't make sense to use plastic just for looks.

Not to mention that people would complain about scratches in the glossy plastic. I believe Apple has stated that this was why they went with glass on the iPhone.

On the other hand, it does make some sense to match the entire line. I wouldn't be surprised if this has been discussed or is in process. Perhaps they left the Air of the visual upgrade list so that they would have time to make the right decision. Once they make it glass, they can't change it back without changing the whole line.
 

fyrefly

macrumors 6502a
Jun 27, 2004
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All those points are true. Just wondering, how big is the HDD used in the iPod classic (160GB). Isn't it 1.8"? :confused:
I just need the SSD to drop in price, which it will hopefully.

The iPod Classic HDD right now is 120GB, same as the HDD Model of the MBA. The 160GB Former Classic model used a 1.8" HDD, but it was a dual-platter (thicker) version and won't fit inside the MBA.
 

thechungster

macrumors regular
Original poster
Nov 12, 2008
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The iPod Classic HDD right now is 120GB, same as the HDD Model of the MBA. The 160GB Former Classic model used a 1.8" HDD, but it was a dual-platter (thicker) version and won't fit inside the MBA.

Oh right, that's why it was thicker.
 
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