iPad Pro Do you think IPadOS will eventually make the IPad Pros computer experience better?

[Shirasaki]

And because Apple has doggedly protected the iOS ethos, there will never be a time when iPads properly replace Macbooks. That would require Apple to put a door in the walled garden of their ecosystem and open up the filesystem to dispense with sandboxing and make it universally accessible by apps.

I think what apple will do is kill macOS and MacBook lineup entirely and replace macOS with iPadOS. Adding mouse support while maintaining touch support is one step towards that direction. iOS 13.4 mouse support works surprisingly well, to a point that a standard two-button mouse can complete almost all iOS system-wide activities. With catalyst introduction and macOS running iPadOS app, what’s left for macOS is full access of the file system, terminal, a bit of UNIX stuff and a bit better versatility for most people. So, instead of trying to open iOS file system to the end user, Apple instead will kill macOS in favour of locked down ecosystem.

Just a while ago, Microsoft released their windows 10X preview version for those “dual screen” devices. It looks ok, control is a bit messy at this stage and the system’s response to traditional Win32 application is a bit unpredictable. However, one takeaway is this version of Windows 10 locks users access to system files more and more. Default file explorer hides system folder, program folder and windows folder from users completely and there’s no option to display those folders. If Microsoft can attempt to lock their system down in this future version of Windows 10, I don't see apple not doing the same.

In short, I believe given a couple years, Apple will kill macOS and MacBook lineup entirely, and completely transition to full mobile device era with iPad and iPhone as the hub of the entire ecosystem. More and more devs will port their old macOS application to iPadOS when possible, and iPad will be the laptop we used today.

 

[muzzy996]

With catalyst introduction and macOS running iPadOS app, what’s left for macOS is full access of the file system, terminal, a bit of UNIX stuff and a bit better versatility for most people. So, instead of trying to open iOS file system to the end user, Apple instead will kill macOS in favour of locked down ecosystem.

I know nothing about coding/programming and whatnot but I would think that giving full access to file system goes against the principles of a mobile OS, particularly iOS. For that very reason I just can’t imagine a day when the MacOS based Macbook product line is shuttered and replaced by an iOS one. The freedom and flexibility of MacOS is an asset to many, locking it down to the point that it becomes more like mobile devices would alienate a large number of power users of Macbooks that rely upon the devices as they are now. Both product lines continue to sell and thrive so I don’t see why Apple would want to limit themselves by merging the markets.

 

[secretk]

Agreed... and... why not just pinch out on the timeline? Works great!?
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Works great in Safari? Do it all the time.

No it does not because iOS RAM management sucks and reloads like crazy.

I have had to change my web workflow slightly but I have found that separating out my tabs between different Safari windows has helped tremendously. Can you do 40 tabs at a time with no reloads? No... but my 1TB 11” with 6GB RAM allows for enough that I rarely notice a reload. And I do most of my work inside a browser.

Except that on my laptop with 8 GB RAM I can have 80 tabs without reloads for days. Now that is power. And the awesome thing is that I can expand that RAM to 32 GB and still be able to open those tabs plus a lot more.

Elaborate - are we talking search and source error logs or where are we going here?

We are talking huge heap dump logs from production web application sever with more than 16 GB RAM. In other words one heap dump is around 16 GB file. And for that yes I do need at least 32 GB RAM.

How big and complex? Are we talking thousands of rows of data that are continuously updated in real time from multiple external sources using scripting, API’s, pivot tables, and in-sheet forecasting algorithms? Oh wait, yes, I do that every day.

I am talking about Excel files with more than 20 sheets and multiple links and formula between them. It is a file I use to keep overview of the performance evaluation of my team. And yes I can open it with iPad but the workflow is slow and inefficient. Look guys it is simple for me - time is money. Every minute I waste in workflow that is inefficient is money lost.

At the end of the day, it is not there yet, but it seems like a lot of people just repeat what they heard 2 years years ago and haven’t taken the time to look around and try for themselves.

I gotta start a Youtube channel on this stuff...

It is better than 2 years ago for sure but still not good enough for me to ditch my laptop. This is what I mean. I can do it if I am outside and there is no computer around. The moment I have computer around I just go there because it is faster and more efficient.

 

[kristalsoldier]

Sometimes I feel like, I'm the only one who wants to use his iPad as a tablet for everything 99,99% of the time.🤨

Well, I am like you and I insist on using my IPP as a tablet 99.9% of the time. And, further, I think it’s form factor lends itself to that.