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Do you think it's worth getting the new Mac pro

  • Yes, I love it!

    Votes: 48 24.4%
  • Yes, I love it, but with mixed feelings.

    Votes: 38 19.3%
  • No thanks, no internal expandability.

    Votes: 16 8.1%
  • No thanks, don't want to pay big bucks for every PCIe slot i need.

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • No thanks, I want to chose my own graphics. (Nvidia /AMD)

    Votes: 15 7.6%
  • No thanks, don't like the full package

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • I can't judge it yet

    Votes: 59 29.9%

  • Total voters
    197
amazing design !

why dont xbox one or ps4 look this way? :) - anyway it can still be the perfect steambox
 
When I first heard about it I was really confused, as I was listening to the stream in the car. When I got home and checked it out I was really astonished to see the design and how they packed everything in, really unbelievable. It looks really cool. However, of course, there is that lack of expandability, but it is still way too early to make any informed decision without knowing all the details including the price. While it may not have 4 internal HD bays, it does make up for it with Thunderbolt 2 and USB 3. While it is not internal, you could setup a killer daisy chain TB setup. Of course, that will be really expensive (hopefully prices drop soon).

It does look like memory and perhaps the PCIe SSD are user serviceable, which is a must for me. Really just want some more details and full system specifications. I hope they stick in the 6 core standard and don't offer a base quad at $2499 :rolleyes:

I am not in the market for one of these, but I really want to know more and see it in person and checkout the cooling system.
 
A big flop in the making. Obviously steve wasn't around to fire everyone responsible for this dumb idea. Who cares what a box that sits under a desk is going to look like? People want to stick massive number of cards, hard disks, gpus, and memory into that thing. That is it. It can weigh 50 pounds and draw the energy equivalent of a space heater. Who cares?

The new Mac Pro is exactly what Steve would have wanted. The what would Steve have done bs on this forum has got to stop.
 
As long as no reviews has merged, I´ve no opinion. I don´t like the design, but beleive it will be very fast.
Anyway, I think it wil be very expensive, so my 3,1 will stay until further.
 
Are enterprise drives really that much more reliable outside of the error recovery timings?
Timings are the primary reason, but the enterprise models usually include some additional sensors to help prevent a physical crash (head smacks platter). Think vibration; it gets to the point a physical crash is imminent, the controller then reduces the rpm (cuts power to the spindle) to bring it's rotational speed, and ultimately the vibration, back down to acceptable limits.

That would be something I brought up before. Many of the proponents of a smaller design suggested it would bring down the cost of the machine, because the price is really driven by the cost of aluminum and building sleds for SATA connections that are paid for either way:rolleyes:. It is important to consider total costs, but I'm highly skeptical that this would have any effect on the availability of thunderbolt peripherals.
Anything used in a system has an effect on it's overall manufacturing costs.

In this case, the physical enclosure and internal components don't appear to rely much, if at all, on aluminum (not surprised, given the recent increases in the cost for it). So they save some money there. Great. But it's going to be offset by the more expensive silicon (GPU's + CPU) used in this model vs. the budgets allocated for these components in the past.

As per peripherals, that's going to be dictated by how manufacturers/vendors perceive the demand for such products. If they see a massive demand, and can't get the parts, they'll be in contact with the misc. IC suppliers requesting more parts, and in turn, those part makers will do their best to comply as quickly as possible without harming their own companies (damage do to rampant growth or serious QC problems for example). There will be lots of meetings and so on, to be sure of what they think the demand is, and how long it will last, so if it's in their best interest to increase production, they'll do it. If not, they'll see it as a short-term spike, and continue on with existing plans.
 
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