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Merkyworks

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From what I understand the developer of a app/program will have to use the new Lion API's to make auto save and versions work. How quick do you think Microsoft will implement this into Mac Office 2010/2011 or do you think that they wont do it at all?
 
My guess is that it will happen, as to the speed, I do not know (I hope quickly).
 
I don't think it will happen at all for office 2011 (costly to implement with little ROI for them), it might happen for the next version but I wouldn't count on it.
 
I don't think it will happen at all for office 2011 (costly to implement with little ROI for them), it might happen for the next version but I wouldn't count on it.

Well, a few days ago MS launched a package of updates for their Office suites that even supported 2001 PPC versions. So if they do this, I'm saying a little more effort on actually upgrading their product to be compatible with the core OS benefits (for which they are programming after all) would ultimately benefit MS itself.
 
I think its better to jump the ship to Apple software.

Microsoft is going to charge you another £80-£100 to update the software with those features.

On another note, iWorks is a much much better suite than Office(3-apps). I think, its better going native in this particular suite of professional software.
 
its a 50/50 chance if you ask me. if its something thats easy enough for the to implement they we'll see it. if it requires more work for them, then i doubt we'll see it until the next release.
 
Microsoft doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to making full use of new features in OS X with their product line. Office 2011 was a much-needed update, and I doubt they’re going to feel the need to release a new version any time soon. We’ll see.
 
Microsoft likes doing things their own way. For example they use their own version of Dictionary to pull definitions instead of using the native Mac one. Same goes for the "Full Screen" support...they use a different mechanism than other Mac applications.

Like others said they'll probably implement it for Mac Office for 2014 or whatever.
 
I would hope Microsoft does, but I can't see it in an update. It seems like they would wait for another version release, which probably won't be until 2013. However, you would think they would want to take advantage of the feature as soon as possible to keep PC switchers using Office and not drifting to iWork because of the auto-save and versions features.
 
Well, a few days ago MS launched a package of updates for their Office suites that even supported 2001 PPC versions. So if they do this, I'm saying a little more effort on actually upgrading their product to be compatible with the core OS benefits (for which they are programming after all) would ultimately benefit MS itself.

Security fixes isn't the same thing as adding features though
 
I would hope Microsoft does, but I can't see it in an update. It seems like they would wait for another version release, which probably won't be until 2013. However, you would think they would want to take advantage of the feature as soon as possible to keep PC switchers using Office and not drifting to iWork because of the auto-save and versions features.

I think the fact that Excel, PowerPoint, and Word are among the most commonly used office programs in the history of mankind sort of locks customers in already. Realistically, Numbers, Keynote, and Pages don’t even scratch the surface of what Office can do. If you’re going to work with documents other people have created and you don’t want to hassle with things like OpenOffice (which is about 5 years behind Microsoft’s suite), you need to buy it. :p
 
I would hope Microsoft does, but I can't see it in an update. It seems like they would wait for another version release, which probably won't be until 2013. However, you would think they would want to take advantage of the feature as soon as possible to keep PC switchers using Office and not drifting to iWork because of the auto-save and versions features.

In all fairness, Office does have auto-save (I think it saves the file ever couple of minutes or so) though not the type Lion offers support for.
 
I think its better to jump the ship to Apple software.

Microsoft is going to charge you another £80-£100 to update the software with those features.

On another note, iWorks is a much much better suite than Office(3-apps). I think, its better going native in this particular suite of professional software.

Depends on your needs, but in my experience for home use, iWorks does a nice job for me. For work, especially with large documents, it has a long way to go.
 
I think its better to jump the ship to Apple software.

Microsoft is going to charge you another £80-£100 to update the software with those features.

On another note, iWorks is a much much better suite than Office(3-apps). I think, its better going native in this particular suite of professional software.

Nonesense. I would be shocked if they didn't come out with and an update to include the new Lion features shortly after the release. "Charge another 80-100":rolleyes:
 
Prepare to be shocked



(Unless you were being sarcastic?)

Of course he wasn't.

I don't understand why people think this would take a great deal of effort. (Perhaps because it's Microsoft? :rolleyes:) Apple has already written the API's. They've done the hard work. It would be trivial to implement them.
 
I think the real question is: Will Adobe?

And the answer to that is sadly no. :rolleyes:

Why would they? And how? Imagine a 2GB PSD file getting every single change you make saved separately - and those won't be incremental, how are you supposed to make incremental backups of a bitmap image? And if it's not incremental, feel free to buy a 1TB hard drive every time you create a new PSD. So no, it won't happen, it wouldn't work and would be impossible to implement, not to mention there's no need for it.
 
If they decide to update their apps they will do it quickly and as they will be updates and not new versions, they obviously won't cost a penny. Or they will choose to ignore it altogether. I hope the former, because I like MS Office, though iWork is pretty nice as well, and switching just for the OS to work woul be a pain.
 
In all fairness, Office does have auto-save (I think it saves the file ever couple of minutes or so) though not the type Lion offers support for.

Auto save hasnt worked for me yet. Word crashes constantly when trying to save a document. I have not yet seen it restore a document after I reopen it, I have even looked for it manually with no luck.

I have not had a chance to install the latest patches, lets hope MS has fixed this issue.
 
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