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How much RAM will the New MacBook Pro have?

  • 16GB

    Votes: 18 27.3%
  • 32GB

    Votes: 28 42.4%
  • User expandable up to 32GB

    Votes: 20 30.3%

  • Total voters
    66

Starlock

macrumors member
Aug 1, 2016
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Minnesota
If you need a mobile workstation, then buy a mobile workstation. Apple never made one. No idea why you'd expect them to make one now.

Which "mobile workstation" that natively runs OSX do you suggest I purchase exactly?

I thought we were talking about a laptop for PROfessionals ? You know, people who need to do real work, (not just sit at Starbucks and Facebook)?

Frankly, I don't "expect" the current Apple to give a $!?! about actual professionals anymore.

It's true that (like a lot of people out there) I'm disappointed because Apple spent a ton of effort hooking PRO's into their environment when they were desperate to survive, then basically let them wither on the vine once they figured out they could get fat selling consumer iStuff.

Here's a totally crazy thought: why don't they make a light thin laptop line branded AIR for those who need to do light consumption... And another laptop line called PRO with power and performance for those that need to do real work.
 
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leman

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Oct 14, 2008
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I thought we were talking about a laptop for PROfessionals ? You know, people who need to do real work, (not just sit at Starbucks and Facebook)?

Here we again come to the issues with the definition of 'professional'. I am a scientist who does real work analysing large data sets. I also use my MBP for programming and other stuff. I don't see any need for me for anything beyond 16GB in the next few years (and data sets I work with can be hundreds of gigabytes in size). The reason for this is fairly simple: the work I do is CPU-intensive. This means that loading new data from the disk generally takes less time than processing that data on the CPU. A well-implemented algorithm here therefore will not see much of a performance increase with more RAM, you just need a reasonable buffer space for the CPU to flex its muscles.

Now, for REALLY BIG stuff I of course need much more power and RAM, but It will be decades before a laptop becomes feasible for that kind of work. For that I have a machine with 4TB RAM.

I quite understand that it is very different for algorithms where processing is generally 'lighter', e.g. some cases of ultra-high-resolution video and photo editing. But this is a niche usage case that needs a specialised machine. Frankly, most content creation professionals don't even see any difference between 8GB and 16GB.

Which "mobile workstation" that natively runs OSX do you suggest I purchase exactly?

If you are doing content creation (e.g. video/photo editing or 3D rendering), why does it have to be a Mac in the first place? Content-creation software generally runs better on Windows anyway. If you need a computer for a highly specialised task only, I would never recommend you a Mac. Macs and OS X shine for heterogeneous use, but they make poor specialised machines (because they are not designed for that purpose).
 

BenTrovato

macrumors 68040
Jun 29, 2012
3,049
2,223
Canada
People seem to forget that Tim Cook comes from an operations background and will keep inventory low and costs down, that's his MO and that's why the company is doing well - for now. Without the balance of generating good hardware and keeping costs down, eventually the company will decline. Apple still has a lot of great things going for it but in the computer area specifically, you can't produce sub par machines forever. I've been waiting for a new MBP for a while now but if it doesn't impress, costs too much, and doesn't offer the latest technology, I won't buy it this time around.
 
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Queen6

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Sure, (I've got posts in that forum too), that is of course if they ever decide to release one again!

Lenovo has offered skylake Xeon p50 and p70 laptops with 64gb of ram since last year!!
http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/11/9129681/lenovo-skylake-xeon-notebooks-p50-p70

Apple used to care about creators not just consumers.

Not for a long time...
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Apple only understands one thing these days $$$$ the Mac and it`s users have been off the radar for years, as IOS & iToys are the money maker hence
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Days of the Mac being ground breaking for the hardcore professional user (non recreational) are gone, Apple just produce nice consumer products, and if they meet your need it`s more by coincidence than design. Personally a Lenovo P50 or P70 is of more interest to me these days and they are offered with Linux.


Q-6
 
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Wahlstrm

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Dec 4, 2013
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Since "PC-Book PRO"s do 64GB RAM these days I´m quite sure Apple will offer 32GB as a ridiculously expensive option..
 
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redheeler

macrumors G3
Oct 17, 2014
8,657
9,324
Colorado, USA
I guessed 32 GB. If Apple could release a Mac that isn't already compromised in multiple categories (same 2012 screen resolution, 8 or 16 GB RAM), that'd be great.
 

jerrythea

macrumors newbie
Apr 6, 2011
10
10
What a joke apple ... $4,200 fully loaded, and ... 16 GB RAM ...

My 2015 MBP will be my last Mac.
 

wozmatic

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Apr 30, 2014
388
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What a joke apple ... $4,200 fully loaded, and ... 16 GB RAM ...

My 2015 MBP will be my last Mac.

I've heard a lot of people say this. I really hope everyone follows through so Apple can take us seriously and stop bullying us with their stupid overpriced gimicky updates.

$500 for a touch bar?!

WE DON"T WANT THE TOUCH BAR.

You're OLD Apple. All of you people are OLD.

Watching the keynote last week I'm like "Holy crap all of these presenters ARE SO OLD!"

They've definitely lost touch.

Good thing their new campus is almost complete so they can move in and make some stupid new updates to their products.
 
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ascender

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Dec 8, 2005
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Was reading coverage elsewhere today and they were saying that the problem with the Skylake chipset is that if you're going to support 32GB or RAM and more, there's no way to do it in such a small footprint as Apple are aiming for.

So the compromise was either limit to 16GB in the new form factor or increase the size of the laptop. Does that mean that a Kabylake chipset coming next year will allow them to offer 32GB RAM in this new design of case? Which presumably means a refresh in 12-18 months time?
 

jerwin

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Jun 13, 2015
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I think the basic problem is this. Some years ago, under Steve Jobs, Apple committed itself to dividing the market into four segments. Pro and Consumer on one axis. Portable and Desktop on the other axis.

Thus, the ideal Apple would offer four computers. A iBook, an iMac, a PowerBook and a PowerMac. Simple. To the point. Easy for Customers to understand when buying the machines, not necessarily easy for them after they've bought them, (because they change from year to year, yet the name stays the same.)

Slowly Apple has expanded out from this scheme, but the demands of brand cohesion have prevented Apple from introducing too many niche products. Intel, however, faces no such constraints, and offers a almost bewildering array of chips that are each strong in one area, while compromised in another. Everything is a tradeoff. Sometimes those chips fit into Apple's conception of what a good computer is supposed to be. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes they are intended to fill the needs of a trend that Apple hasn't yet identified. Sometimes they break things that Apple consumers have gotten used to seeing.

Apple views its laptops as ultraportable machines. If you need power in excess-perhaps you should look at an iMac instead. There's no room for a luggable computer in Apple's lineup. Not until it changes its branding scheme.

Unfortunately, this has made Apple's Macintosh division into rather lumbering beast.

Which is a bit sad, because I would have thought that the iOS division would have opened up Apple's eyes to the merits of a person owning multiple, ultra-specialized computers, each sharing access to the same set of data, instead of a single computer that's stretched to the limits. Maybe that would cut into their profit margins.

The MacBook Pro can't be all things to all people.
 
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jerrythea

macrumors newbie
Apr 6, 2011
10
10
I just was looking at my history, and saw my old post.

It took 3 years, but Apple finally got it right.

The 2019 16" MacBook Pro is now my daily development system.
 
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