I have just switched to Firefox so to try it again after many years. I know it's slower than Chrome, but if it dies it's gonna be bad for web standards. Are you using it? If yes do you notice the speed difference with Chrome on daily basis?
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Do you use Firefox to support it?
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I use it for most web browsing. Some websites don’t work right and need chrome. Although at least one I use. Doesn’t work Right in chrome and I use Firefox for it.
I also use chrome for any Google related stuff. Figure if they’re teaching me. Might as well use their browser for it.
Never really noticed a speed difference.
I also use chrome for any Google related stuff. Figure if they’re teaching me. Might as well use their browser for it.
Never really noticed a speed difference.
I've come to really enjoy using Firefox. Started using it daily on a MacBook (2010) running High Sierra after Apple stopped releasing OS/Safari updates. The support for multiple profiles and containers is very cool. I'll probably keep using it on my new MBA M2.
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The speed seems the same for light browsing, probably even better with Firefox because ublock origin is supported 100% from the first to the last API, and works as gorhill intended.
I think the problem with firefox is the heavy rendering, streaming and battery life. Laptops really get hot with Firefox, try to stream twitch or long youtube sessions and watch at your battery percentage, try to play an online game browser and see the fps differences with Chrome.
Gecko core engine has been a little bit abandoned. Mozilla doesn't have the same number of users and CAN'T have the same funds of the Chromium project obviously, but this is also the result of really bad choices in the last few years.
I hate to say that Chrome is better in everything: temperatures, efficiency, speed, battery life, with an exceptional management between light and heavy workloads. It updates seamlessly, never crashes, very rugged and oiled software without hassles. Who says chrome is bad just didn't use it recently.
Safari? Can't trust it, no APIs, UI very bugged. Without discussing WebKit engine and website compatibility, it seems to me an economy class piece of software, not curated nor tested enough. I guess even in apple don't trust it that much.
I think the problem with firefox is the heavy rendering, streaming and battery life. Laptops really get hot with Firefox, try to stream twitch or long youtube sessions and watch at your battery percentage, try to play an online game browser and see the fps differences with Chrome.
Gecko core engine has been a little bit abandoned. Mozilla doesn't have the same number of users and CAN'T have the same funds of the Chromium project obviously, but this is also the result of really bad choices in the last few years.
I hate to say that Chrome is better in everything: temperatures, efficiency, speed, battery life, with an exceptional management between light and heavy workloads. It updates seamlessly, never crashes, very rugged and oiled software without hassles. Who says chrome is bad just didn't use it recently.
Safari? Can't trust it, no APIs, UI very bugged. Without discussing WebKit engine and website compatibility, it seems to me an economy class piece of software, not curated nor tested enough. I guess even in apple don't trust it that much.
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I quite like Firefox and have used for many years. On the rare occasions I am forced to endure Facebook I use Firefox container.
Safari never seems to manage to make tabs properly and reliably sync between devices. It has been like that for years for me. Have spent countless hours on phone with support and promised callbacks that never happened. Never did find a resolution to it. It always works in Firefox. How can the team at FF get it so right and the (presumably) much larger team at Apple with their inside info on how things work not get this sorted?
Extensions are often a little better for FF than Safari. If not in quality then in function and availability. I use a few - YouTube downloaders to avoid ads, DownThemAll, download managers and a few others.
Also quite like Brave. It also manages to get device tab sync to work perfectly. It also works well with YouTube as it can block adverts from playing.
I also like to support Firefox and Brave.
I do still like Safari. Password integration with TouchID (when it decides to like my fingers - please can I have FaceID??) is neat.
Safari never seems to manage to make tabs properly and reliably sync between devices. It has been like that for years for me. Have spent countless hours on phone with support and promised callbacks that never happened. Never did find a resolution to it. It always works in Firefox. How can the team at FF get it so right and the (presumably) much larger team at Apple with their inside info on how things work not get this sorted?
Extensions are often a little better for FF than Safari. If not in quality then in function and availability. I use a few - YouTube downloaders to avoid ads, DownThemAll, download managers and a few others.
Also quite like Brave. It also manages to get device tab sync to work perfectly. It also works well with YouTube as it can block adverts from playing.
I also like to support Firefox and Brave.
I do still like Safari. Password integration with TouchID (when it decides to like my fingers - please can I have FaceID??) is neat.
Firefox is my main browser. For the few websites where I want to retain cookies, I use Safari. I avoid Chrome because of all the goo.
It's pretty important to support Firefox and Mozilla. I also give money to them every year. Mozilla does much more than just make a browser.
It's pretty important to support Firefox and Mozilla. I also give money to them every year. Mozilla does much more than just make a browser.
I like having at least two web browsers. Not so much for native compatibility issues for but for (1) cases where my Safari content blockers breaks a site or (2) when I want something completely isolated from my general browser (such as banking).
I won't consider Chrome so my options are either Edge or Firefox and I chose Firefox to support them. However, I also think (at least 1.5 years ago) Edge required Microsoft Auto Updater as a separate application rather than updating normally. Not sure if they have changed that so they can update by itself, but that would be a dealbreaker then.
I won't consider Chrome so my options are either Edge or Firefox and I chose Firefox to support them. However, I also think (at least 1.5 years ago) Edge required Microsoft Auto Updater as a separate application rather than updating normally. Not sure if they have changed that so they can update by itself, but that would be a dealbreaker then.
installed Firefox just yesterday after some time debatting wether or not i should, as i generally want to keep my systems "clean / un-bloated"
Chrome or Edge were on my radar too, but Chrome is too googly and Edge too MSy
and like Traverse above me i also didn't like the fact that there will be additional bloat installed in the form of background updaters.
Plus you never know for how long some browser extensions will continue to work in those in the future.
i will keep using stock Safari without any extensions and Google as my search engine for most of my stuff, but will now use a more or less completely locked Firefox with DDG and pretty much anything blocked + uBlock from time to time too.
not sure how this will play out for actual improving my system's security though as i will now have two possibly exploitable loop holes instead of just one 😂
Chrome or Edge were on my radar too, but Chrome is too googly and Edge too MSy
and like Traverse above me i also didn't like the fact that there will be additional bloat installed in the form of background updaters.Plus you never know for how long some browser extensions will continue to work in those in the future.
i will keep using stock Safari without any extensions and Google as my search engine for most of my stuff, but will now use a more or less completely locked Firefox with DDG and pretty much anything blocked + uBlock from time to time too.
not sure how this will play out for actual improving my system's security though as i will now have two possibly exploitable loop holes instead of just one 😂
Not only do I not use Firefox, I've even blocked it in my web app and instruct users to use a real browser.
It's good practice to support all major browsers. I try to keep a number of them running (automatically refreshing) as I develop.
Years ago developers behaved like you and insisted their users run IE. It's pretty strange to see that kind of behavior these days.
I use the latest versioning of FF as I can't get beyond 15.6 with Safari running a patched system. This also means that I'm still able to use an older stand-alone version of the 1Password extension for desktop use. There's actually quite a few extensions now on FF that I'd hate to be without.
Tell that to the developers of those web browsers. They need to work. They largely don't. My web app uses lots of advanced web technologies, 100% work in Chrome, about 90% work in Safari, and about 60% work in Firefox. Not worth it.
I use Firefox almost exclusively, 2nd would be Safari, then Brave.
I would never use chrome.
I would never use chrome.
You must browse like 3 websites regularly. Clearly never used a single web app or modern web technology.
Can't speak to what tech is behind the sites I visit but I assure you that it is far more than 3 and I have zero problems.
I cruise the Internet widely, and occasionally have problems with something not working in Safari. I get around these issues by using Firefox. I've never used Chrome, nor will I ever use it.
I never use Chrome but can readily compare Version 16.2 (18614.4.1.500.1) versus Firefox 108.0.1 on AS platform. Example 24" iMac running MacOS 13.2 beta 1 using this speedbench2.
Firefox = 258
Safari = 355
Safari is useful for user agent to act like other browsers to test web sites under under develop menu, Firefox has an interesting set of browser tools. Both are very good for viewing web pages without issues. I don't find either privacy features lacking since I do a lot of browsing in private mode.
What kind of functionality and features would you like to see in browsers, to make them acceptable for you?