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Shadow

macrumors 68000
Feb 17, 2006
1,577
1
You are complaining about an Apple Store?! Why you ungrateful thing-here in the UK we have about 6 Apple Stores-and the closest is about 200 miles away from me. I actually made a special trip to an Apple Store just to get my MacBook.

Be thankful you have an Apple Store.

Oh and BTW, maybe you should check that you have something already before buying it.
 

RedTomato

macrumors 601
Mar 4, 2005
4,161
444
.. London ..
You claim to have the age, buying authority and IT experience to have spent over $10,000 at an Apple store, but you:

1. still buy games at Apple stores instead of online (Amazon etc)
2. get overexcited and buy a game on the spot without reading reviews / checking it out online,
3. then get all pissy over it when it's not what you wanted
4. don't know sod all about software licences and policies
5. brag online about the amount you've 'spent' at the Apple store.

Pull the other one.

Methinks it's Daddy who 'spent $10,000' not you.
 

Fuzzy Orange

macrumors 6502
Jul 29, 2006
263
0
I've actually never had a problem at the Apple Store... Most (if not all) of the employees who work at the one nearest to me are all educated on Macs, and all of them have personal Macs.
 

XboxEvolved

macrumors 6502a
Aug 22, 2004
870
1,118
Actually yeah it is true, you can return software opened, typically when you do, you have to get something of equal value, the same thing, etc. They normally won't refund your money. I know all videogame stores and Wal-Mart is like that, but it also depends on the case.

I've worked at GameStop and Meijer, and if I understand your case, you got a game that was in the wrong package? In that case, yeah they should have let you exchange it for the thing you wanted. This kind of thing happens a lot at GameStop stores..

Also, I like the Apple Store. It's at the rich persons mall like 30 miles away though so I don't go to often, but it is a neat store to visit.
 

TequilaBoobs

macrumors 6502a
Nov 12, 2006
592
0
Actually yeah it is true, you can return software opened, typically when you do, you have to get something of equal value, the same thing, etc. They normally won't refund your money. I know all videogame stores and Wal-Mart is like that, but it also depends on the case.

I've worked at GameStop and Meijer, and if I understand your case, you got a game that was in the wrong package? In that case, yeah they should have let you exchange it for the thing you wanted. This kind of thing happens a lot at GameStop stores..

Also, I like the Apple Store. It's at the rich persons mall like 30 miles away though so I don't go to often, but it is a neat store to visit.

the mall is called 'rich persons'? :confused:
 

ReanimationLP

macrumors 68030
Jan 8, 2005
2,782
33
On the moon.
I work at a Best Buy.

If someone tries to return software, we only take it back if its defective, and we open the new packaging and just swap the disc itself, not the keys.
 

swingerofbirch

macrumors 68040
Do I hate the Apple stores no?

But I can't think of many things in life I do like without qualifiers! The two things that bother me have to do with my own personal sensitivities.

I don't mind the austerity of the Apple stores per se, but I do find while shopping that I need a sit-down from time to time, and the Apple stores nearest me have only stools to sit on at the genius bars, which aren't much help when you've a touch of the dizzies. I need something with a back on it so I can let my muscles go limp and practice my relaxation thoughts.

Also, as environmental as I know fluorescent lights are, they leave me wanting to flee the store for natural light.

I know most people aren't as sensitive as me, but for shoppers with anxiety conditions, the Apple store can be a tad overwhelming, especially as they're usually in the midst of an air-less mall!
 

synth3tik

macrumors 68040
Oct 11, 2006
3,951
2
Minneapolis, MN
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boo hoo.

If you hate it shut up and stop going to them
 

swingerofbirch

macrumors 68040
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boo hoo.

If you hate it shut up and stop going to them

I sincerely hope that comment was not directed toward me.

The black fact is the only times I visit the Apple store are for repairs. Even though I purchased AppleCare which includes on-site repairs, where I live, Apple does not offer on-site repair, and I live in a very populated area. I can't send my iMac in for repair either. So I have to take it to an Apple store. Yes, I know I could take it to an Apple authorized dealer but sadly there are none around here, not even the university I am two minutes away from has an Apple shop or repair center, they are Dell only.

So, in short, buying an Apple desktop means for me I have to go to the Apple store if I have any hardware problems.
 

desenso

macrumors 6502a
May 25, 2005
797
1
Harsh responses!

In general, I enjoy the Apple retail experience, but it really depends on the geographic area.

Some stores have pretty rude employees, which I find unnerving, but in general I've found them to be fairly polite.

I really hate Apple stores in urban environments, or in urban shopping malls. They're literally packed with people who are just using them as a free internet kiosk. It drove me nuts when they first released the new Macbooks, but I couldn't take a look at one because the stores were packed with people using myspace or downloading torrents!

I really do feel that Apple should just turn off the internet on their demonstration computers. They should allow the computers to access a local intranet with information about the products, but there's really no value to making it a free internet cafe, other than perhaps access to the iTunes music store and, of course, the ability to book in appointments. These, surely, could be solved with a very restrictive firewall. I appreciate that it's a place for homeless people to get online, and just in general for people that might not have access to the internet to use it, but with all due respect to these people's situations, it can interfere with the shopping experience.

I avoid big Apple stores that are plagued by these problems as much as I can. Suburban shopping malls and smaller Apple stores tend to be much better environments to actually shop for an Apple product. Either way, I love Apple stores... there's nothing worse than having to wait extended periods of time for an anticipated purchase - the instant gratification of walking out of a store with a laptop in hand is an undervalued experience, in my opinion.
 

Mac In School

macrumors 65816
Jun 21, 2007
1,286
0
I love the Apple stores, but do have a few gripes:

1. I went in to buy AppleTV. I explained to the "genius" that I had an older router that only supported wireless A, B and G, and asked him if AppleTV would work with it. He said "No, it will only work with N, may I recommend an Airport Extreme Base Station?"

So I dropped $179 on the APE, knowing that I could daisy-chain it to my old router, and not have any problems. I installed the router first, then opened the AppleTV box, and started reading the manual. That's when I learned that it would, in fact, run on wireless G.

I'm only mildly disappointed because I needed to add some more wired ports, plan to buy a MacBook Pro by the end of the year, and was able to spend business money on the router anyway. But if I was just a poor consumer walking in, and ended up spending $179 I didn't need to spend, I would have been pretty pissed.

2. It shocks me that they don't have any machines running Windows via Parallels or VM Ware in the store. I think they would land more potential switchers if they could see and feel Windows on a Mac. Not being able to test this did push my decision to switch back by about 3 months.

I realize they don't want to pimp Microsuck's products, but they have "MS Office" signs all over the store, and even mention being able to run Windows and Office in their commercials.
 

Sdashiki

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2005
3,529
11
Behind the lens
Why not just sell the opened software on eBay and recoup something?

Whining didnt bring you anything but more grief, just look at these replies!
 

imac/cheese

macrumors 6502a
Jun 7, 2007
555
2
If the OP has been in the computer business for 20+ years he should probably know what software he owns and not be fooled by new packaging.

However, if I ran a computer store I would probably have given the guy a refund or at least allowed him to exchange it for something else. A store that serves its customer's needs is one that a customer returns to. A game is not really that expensive and probably worth the money to get him to keep buying software at that store instead of cheaper on amazon. Every customer is valuable and important from an owner/manager point of view no matter if they have spent $1 or $100K. If he has a rewarding experience and a satisfying exchange process, he will be more likely to come back and sing the store's praises.

If this guy tried it again, of course, I would not allow him to rip the store off and if this type of return became common I would have to find another way to prevent it, but making an exception to store policy sometimes goes a long way.
 

Maui

macrumors 6502a
May 18, 2007
869
0
The Apple store near me is great. They just need more staff to deal with the gazillion customers in there. Want to be popular? Wear a blue or black t-shirt and walk into an Apple store.
 

a cat *miaow*

macrumors regular
Jun 12, 2007
217
0
Why buy anything from an apple store? beautiful products sold by the most unhelpful, arrogant staff i've ever had the misfortune to deal with.. boooooo
 

Airforce

macrumors 6502a
Jan 12, 2006
933
0
Why buy anything from an apple store? beautiful products sold by the most unhelpful, arrogant staff i've ever had the misfortune to deal with.. boooooo

+1 except when I was back in Dallas. I avoid the store in Raleigh, NC(CrabTree Valley Mall) at all cost.
 

janey

macrumors 603
Dec 20, 2002
5,316
0
sunny los angeles
I hate waiting for the genius bar. Surprisingly the San Francisco store was FAST as hell for a trivial exchange compared to the half dozen LA-area stores I went to. This was my complaint on the repair survey:
I went to the San Francisco store because I was in town for WWDC07, where I had barely signed up at the concierge when someone (one of the Toms working that shift) came by and asked me if I needed help.

Prior to [going to the SF store] I had several issues with my MacBook that I wanted someone to take a look at a few days before I was going to leave LA for SF (trackpad button that didn't quite work, power adapter making funny sounds, sound issues) at the majority of the dozen or so Los Angeles area apple stores within a reasonable driving distance. None of them were able to help me, all of them had appointments available only a couple days in the future, and only at the Century City (closest to where I live) store did a non-genius (wow, so hard to find one of these to talk to too) even bother to try to reply to my questions by saying that everyone was busy with repairs in the back and even though some geniuses seemed to not be doing much, that i had to sign up using the concierge anyway. (yes, for appointment dates in a Los Angeles-area store when I was going to be 500 miles away, despite having explained the situation already and saying it was probably trivial and most likely just needed an exchange...)

What I got in the end from the awesome genius at the SF store was a replaced power adapter and a couple questions answered in under 15 minutes: one minute to figure out the issue and answer my various questions, the rest mostly waiting for something in the system to finish before sending me off. Great service. Now I wish I lived near the san francisco store for near-instant service even when it was pretty crowded.

I miss the days when Glendale was the only store in this area...hell, one of the only stores in the entire world, and I didn't have to use concierge to talk to someone for a trivial exchange or pay for procare to get extra fast service.
 
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