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On which version? Just saying, but without Rosetta even opening System Preferences wasn’t possible on 10.4.4.
If I'm remembering correctly (and it was 15+ years ago so I may not be!) then a 'fresh' copy of Sys Prefs would open without Rosetta, but you needed it once you'd installed a PowerPC preference pane.
 
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bluecoast

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Reminds me of the heady days of the Mac web's endless discourse over Brushed Metal and the Delicious Generation during the early-2000's. Thanks to blogs like Daring Fireball, everyone couldn't stop talking about "skeuomorphism".
Now I can’t stop thinking about games center in green baize :eek:
 

PowerPCFan

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I never read these threads carefully enough, I posted a PowerPC image. Just deleted the link.
 
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lepidotós

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If your Mac has an SSD then this is about as fast as you're ever likely to get that Mac to go.
Before it kicked it on me (though I'm still holding a little hope for the new RAM, hopefully it isn't dead*), Fedora 36 KDE was really smooth and responsive, I want to say about as good or slightly better than 10.4.11 was. Though maybe it had less actual processing power... and when people want to use a Mac, they want Mac OS. Still, not bad for a laptop I spent $75 total on.
Well, speaking generically with a 64-bit machine, which the 2006 Pros aren't... I'm sure you could get something going with Slackware 15 and KDE 2.
*I'm an actual idiot. I bought 2x2GB of DDR4.​
 

LightBulbFun

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According to this, only ATSServer requires Rosetta.

correct :)

Intel Tiger was completely native, and did not suffer any performance limitations/issues (anyone who has run Tiger on intel knows just how impressively quick it is!)

as you say the only thing that relied on Rosetta was ATSServer, a font Server

it was just a minor part, critical to loading the window server, but nothing performance critical

thus it was used a form DRM from 10.4.1-10.4.3 (as Rosetta required the TPM key to load, without the TPM key, no Rosetta, so ATSServer would not load thus no GUI)

here is my 10.4.3 Virtual machine, and I have sorted activity monitor by Architecture and as you can see only ATSServer is PowerPC as expected

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afterwards apple moved to encrypted binaries, that would only load once decrypted by DSMOS.kext and a special worded key in SMC

and by 10.4.11 everything was intel even ATSServer :)



most binaries in Tiger are compiled for at least SSE3, hence why it was so crucial for the hackintosh people to make an SSE3 emulator

Rosetta had nothing to do it, it was just another of many binaries that used SSE3
 
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